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Trade Talk (Part Six)

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Post#1241 » by Note30 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:12 pm

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You will likely get the next 4 years to slowly learn the lesson the hard way.


Yes. Because with the other 3 we are going to start winning by magic. They are proven winners.
Superstars... the best trio in the NBA
You have to build something. This was what Rosas started and yes they can build something around that if they kept on it. They already had two Max deals in place, and a third good deal on a shooter. All three are showing capable of 40% seasons here. That's no small feat here. Adding fit around them was the move to make. Instead he drafted a good way to destroy it.

Go ahead, list all the "superstars" the team has a chance to get instead. Because I guarantee you your imaginations of Edwards are just that because sub30% uncoachable chuckers just don't qualify and stacking up Top FRPs from consecutive drafts is called total rebuilding mode and long development futures of overplaying them minutes on this franchise. Maybe a more substantial development system could have started Edwards off better, but that's not here and it was a visible risk going into it. They already seemingly locked in his bigHead. Good luck with him doing this all on his own. In the meantime he will alienate and ruin the values of others better players. Sky's the limit, but hell has none.


... Your heads up your ass. This would be different if DLo and Beasley were reliable players. Our core players are ass. Towns is a 2nd or 3rd wheel on a championship team. Beasley and DLo would be fringe starters at best. And they certainly would never be played together. You can't win a championship with stars that don't play defense unless they are HOF players like Harden and Durant. Even then Durant is above average on defense.

You'll learn that none of these players is go to superstar. No point building without one of those. Edwards can be. He's shown the ability. Trading Edwards is not the solution.

Trading the other 3 are.

When you get a player that's a true superstar that's when you hope your team build is good enough and build around that player.

You don't just stick some high scoring players together and hope it works out. It's Minnesota not Los Angeles or New York. You can't win with superstars magically join your team.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1242 » by Calinks » Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:16 pm

Guys, let's not go in the direction of insulting one another. Again, insult the trade/ideas if you don't like them but stop with the personal jabs and quips. Even if you are "joking" others may not see it as such. Keep it respectful.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1243 » by Klomp » Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:17 pm

JaMychal Green getting buried in Denver. He was a Rosas target in the offseason.
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Post#1244 » by karch34 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:18 pm

Jedzz wrote:I wonder what people's comparisons would be like between Markannen and Juancho.


I think upside for both would be Juancho is poor man's Markannen. I think Markannen is slightly better defensively or at least he's surprised me as competent when i didn't think he would be.

I'd do Rubio and Vando for Felicio and Markannen.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1245 » by bluethunder0005 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:25 pm

What is all this, waiting 3+ years to see what we have in Edwards? Are people still under the illusion that you're a developmental piece your first few years? Next year we'll know what Edwards will likely be going forward. Durant, Doncic, Young, Booker, Ingram, and others are all plenty of examples of players who took a giant leap in their 2nd year and all of them except Doncic had pretty rough rookie seasons. I get not liking some of the fundamental part of Edwards' game due to shot selection but let's not act like he doesn't easily have the 2nd highest ceiling on the team. Russell will be the player holding us back in the next 3 years with that awful contract and mediocre ability, he'd be the obvious trade piece if he had any value.
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Post#1246 » by shrink » Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:28 pm

Clippers got Rondo from the Hawks.

I thought LAC was a possibility for Rubio. They need passing and ball handling,
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1247 » by Note30 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:28 pm

bluethunder0005 wrote:What is all this, waiting 3+ years to see what we have in Edwards? Are people still under the illusion that you're a developmental piece your first few years? Next year we'll know what Edwards will likely be going forward. Durant, Doncic, Young, Booker, Ingram, and others are all plenty of examples of players who took a giant leap in their 2nd year and all of them except Doncic had pretty rough rookie seasons. I get not liking some of the fundamental part of Edwards' game due to shot selection but let's not act like he doesn't easily have the 2nd highest ceiling on the team. Russell will be the player holding us back in the next 3 years with that awful contract and mediocre ability, he'd be the obvious trade piece if he had any value.


If Russell goes then so does Towns, so trade both.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1249 » by Note30 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:39 pm

If we stand pat fire Rosas
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1250 » by Neeva » Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:44 pm

Im cool with waiting for draft night.
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Post#1251 » by _AIJ_ » Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:45 pm

For those who were expecting a trade, this has rather been a disappointing day. Lol
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1252 » by Worm Guts » Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:47 pm

I'm not against a trade now, but it's not like we were going to save the season. We can wait until the offseason.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1253 » by _AIJ_ » Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:48 pm

I just cant wait until the team is 100% healthy. Screw the deadline
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1254 » by Merc_Porto » Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:49 pm

I mean, if this way we have more chances to get a top-3 pick then i'm ok, too.
But we need to start shutting down some guys.
And Rosas should start praying. Or the DLO-Wiggins trade is going to be officially one of the worst trades in NBA history.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1255 » by Worm Guts » Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:52 pm

Merc_Porto wrote:I mean, if this way we have more chances to get a top-3 pick then i'm ok, too.
But we need to start shutting down some guys.
And Rosas should start praying. Or the DLO-Wiggins trade is going to be officially one of the worst trades in NBA history.


I think we’ve shown we lose without shutting down guys. We should also remember the bottom 3 spots are completely interchangeable in terms of keeping our pick.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1256 » by Magoose » Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:54 pm

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bluethunder0005 wrote:What is all this, waiting 3+ years to see what we have in Edwards? Are people still under the illusion that you're a developmental piece your first few years? Next year we'll know what Edwards will likely be going forward. Durant, Doncic, Young, Booker, Ingram, and others are all plenty of examples of players who took a giant leap in their 2nd year and all of them except Doncic had pretty rough rookie seasons. I get not liking some of the fundamental part of Edwards' game due to shot selection but let's not act like he doesn't easily have the 2nd highest ceiling on the team. Russell will be the player holding us back in the next 3 years with that awful contract and mediocre ability, he'd be the obvious trade piece if he had any value.


If Russell goes then so does Towns, so trade both.


If Towns would choose playing with his buddy over winning this would be the right thing to do anyway.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1257 » by Merc_Porto » Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:58 pm

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Merc_Porto wrote:I mean, if this way we have more chances to get a top-3 pick then i'm ok, too.
But we need to start shutting down some guys.
And Rosas should start praying. Or the DLO-Wiggins trade is going to be officially one of the worst trades in NBA history.


I think we’ve shown we lose without shutting down guys. We should also remember the bottom 3 spots are completely interchangeable in terms of keeping our pick.


Makes sense. But from this day on we also have to understand that a few more teams are going to start losing on purpose (tanking)
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1258 » by Worm Guts » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:05 pm

I guess I'm not all that concerned about chasing our pick, since it's less 50% chance we'll keep it anyway. I don't think we have to worry about winning a ton of games though.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1259 » by wolves_89 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:06 pm

At this point Rosas must be praying for the draft lottery to save his job. I'd give Rosas about the same odds of not getting fired as the team keeping their pick.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Six) 

Post#1260 » by Domejandro » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:11 pm

I told people going in that Minnesota likely was not going to be involved in trades during the deadline, given the quantity of buyers on the market. Not surprising at all.

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