Lonzo Ball Thread (UPDATE: Bulls Offer Sato + 2nd Round picks)

Hangtime84 · Post #1081 » by **Hangtime84** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:02 pm

See you in free agency

VolumePoster · Post #1082 » by **VolumePoster** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:07 pm

Sato has been playing well enough and with enough chemistry that I wouldn’t want to give us assets for a free agent.

DroseReturnChi · Post #1083 » by **DroseReturnChi** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:08 pm

Hangtime84 wrote:See you in free agency

do they even have money? they already locked two thirds with lavine, vuc and theres lauri rfa im very concerned this is the core.

edededtut · Post #1084 » by **edededtut** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:09 pm

ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:Ugh - no Lonzo and stuck with Lauri. He should come off the bench, right? Thad is the only big you can put out with Vuc

I dont see how that works. Vucevic is going to be setting the picks in PnR - is thad going to provide spacing? He is not much of a shot blocker either (and I’m not saying Lauri is one either)

Repeat 3-peat · Post #1085 » by **Repeat 3-peat** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:09 pm

Lonzo S&T in the summer I guess.

VolumePoster · Post #1086 » by **VolumePoster** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:12 pm

ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:Ugh - no Lonzo and stuck with Lauri. He should come off the bench, right? Thad is the only big you can put out with Vuc

Respectfully disagree. The best Lauri ever looked was beside a true center like Robin. Thad made our bench amazing and gave it an interior playmaker. This trade gave us a legit second scorer, will improve Lauri as he’s really a perimeter 4 that attacks closeouts, and gives us a sixth man of the year. At a high cost yes. But Lauri should start.

Post #1087 » by **HomoSapien** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:17 pm

Read on Twitter

WindyCityBorn · Post #1088 » by **WindyCityBorn** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:20 pm

Oh well. We know AK isn’t playing around. PG will be addressed this off-season. Sato can hold it down for the rest of this season.

Post #1089 » by **DuckIII** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:22 pm

HomoSapien wrote:

Read on Twitter

It’s “clear” KC? Is it really? We have no picks and no capspace to acquire a difference maker.

Oh well. We’ll see if AK can figure something out this summer. And Sato is at least a decent fill in for now.

Post #1090 » by **DuckIII** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:23 pm

Will be interesting to see the post-mortem articles on what happened here. It made so much sense to get him. Even moreso after the Vuc trade.

TheStig · Post #1091 » by **TheStig** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:28 pm

Hangtime84 wrote:Lauri for Collins swap would been great for both teams

How would that be great for the Hawks :lol:

OldSchoolNoBull · Post #1092 » by **OldSchoolNoBull** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:30 pm

DuckIII wrote:Will be interesting to see the post-mortem articles on what happened here. It made so much sense to get him. Even moreso after the Vuc trade.

I feel like more than anything it's that the Pelicans can't decide if they value Ball or not. On the one hand, the word is that they don't really want to pay him this summer, but on the other hand, they think he's valuable enough that they wanted to use him to dump Adams or Bledsoe? You can't be saying a guy isn't valuable to you out of one side of your mouth and then say the opposite out of the other side.

Hangtime84 · Post #1093 » by **Hangtime84** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:35 pm

TheStig wrote:
Hangtime84 wrote:Lauri for Collins swap would been great for both teams

How would that be great for the Hawks

I don't have your negative view about Lauri

TheStig · Post #1094 » by **TheStig** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:36 pm

Get it done AkME!

Post #1095 » by **HomoSapien** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:02 pm

DuckIII wrote:Will be interesting to see the post-mortem articles on what happened here. It made so much sense to get him. Even moreso after the Vuc trade.

My guess is that NO were demanding either Lauri & Coby or Lauri/Coby + 1st round pick. We rightfully prioritized Vuc, and I'm guessing we probably tried to keep that trade to one pick so that we'd have the option to send the other to NO. When that didn't work out, attaining Ball probably becasue difficult.

Although I wanted him, a trade of Lauri+Coby or one of those plus a pick doesn't quite feel like a fair exchange.

Post #1096 » by **AshyLarrysDiaper** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:04 pm

HomoSapien wrote:
DuckIII wrote:Will be interesting to see the post-mortem articles on what happened here. It made so much sense to get him. Even moreso after the Vuc trade.

My guess is that NO were demanding either Lauri & Coby or Lauri/Coby + 1st round pick. We rightfully prioritized Vuc, and I'm guessing we probably tried to keep that trade to one pick so that we'd have the option to send the other to NO. When that didn't work out, attaining Ball probably becasue difficult.

Although I wanted him, a trade of Lauri+Coby or one of those plus a pick doesn't quite feel like a fair exchange.

I'd have pulled the trigger on Lauri + Coby, though I see the risk.

Throwing in a first, especially after we sent out two for Vuc, was a dealbreaker for me and I bet it's why this didn't happen.

Chicago-Bull-E · Post #1097 » by **Chicago-Bull-E** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:07 pm

If it really was Lauri + Coby (which I kind of doubt because they have Kira Lewis ready to go, I don’t see how Coby fits), it’s a shame the Bulls couldn’t have simply gotten a pick from the Pelicans, which they have a few extra of. Getting a Milwaukee pick back would have been so easy, and much more important to the Bulls than the pelicans.

Shame.

MrSparkle · Post #1098 » by **MrSparkle** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:00 pm

NOP was asking the moon here. Not that they shouldn't; Griffin knows how to work the trade market. He's taking a decent gamble on getting a better S&T in free agency.

But honestly, I don't even know what the hell they're doing. Their additions around Zion suck, and they're collecting assets like there's some kind of superstar guard available on the market to pair with Zion's & Ingram's combined 60% usage. These ten young 20yos they have, they're a big collection of uncomplimentary raw talents that need to be consolidated before their RFA/QOs come up in the next year. Frankly they're gonna be left with a bunch of dust.

Bledsoe and Adams are two overpaid, locked up veterans who are very poor fits for Zion. Lonzo is a poor fit for Zion; I don't think he pumps his value from here on out, but we'll see.

Point is, NOP has tons of FRP/rookie-salary capital, but who is their target? IMO they should go all in for Shai, Fox or Beal. Or two of them, if they dangle Ingram. Hey, maybe that's the plan.

All I know is it's very telling that a straight Lauri offer fetched neither a mid/late FRP nor expiring Lonzo. Both mediocre returns IMO.

PaKii94 · Post #1099 » by **PaKii94** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:10 pm

Lock it up! Lauri lives to see another day as a bull

bad knees · Post #1100 » by **bad knees** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:07 pm

HomoSapien wrote:

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KC is being really unimaginative here. There are many ways to clear the cap space for Lonzo if the Bulls need to do so. For one thing, both Thad and Sato are easily tradeable for cap space. They also can trade Aminu and/or Brown by attaching a 2d round pick, or they could be waived/extended.