It's a Tragedy to see the Deadline's Over Post Trade Thread

[Captain_Caveman]

Should I repeat what I just wrote or are you cool with just looking up and reading it again?

No need to repeat what you wrote.

Or to ever write it again.

Well no, that’s why the copy and paste function was invented. Good on you for picking that up.

You're OK man, but I will take this opportunity to say that BigTrade92 has been against literally every big trade we have done in the last 10 years, lol.

[ddb]

I think Wiseman is gettable.

He's not ready to help that team win titles in the next year or two.

Umm wrong mindset. Curry will be available though at some point within 18 months

[BigTrade92]

No need to repeat what you wrote.

Or to ever write it again.

Well no, that’s why the copy and paste function was invented. Good on you for picking that up.

You're OK man, but I will take this opportunity to say that BigTrade92 has been against literally every big trade we have done in the last 10 years, lol.

Thanks man, but not really, plus they haven’t made many big trades aside from Irving which I rightfully hated as that guy was and still is a chump.

I was waiting for the big trade: Harden. Ainge pussed out.

[Captain_Caveman]

I think Wiseman is gettable.

He's not ready to help that team win titles in the next year or two.

Umm wrong mindset. Curry will be available though at some point within 18 months

No.

[djFan71]

I think Wiseman is gettable.

He's not ready to help that team win titles in the next year or two.

What do you think he's worth given that? Smart/Nesmith/picks? That's about all we got to really work with at this point. You could send TT as well, but they barely have salary to match Smart after Oubre expires. Unless they wanna send Dray.

EDIT: Or foist Wiggins on us. But, that changes things dramatically.

[Captain_Caveman]

I think Wiseman is gettable.

He's not ready to help that team win titles in the next year or two.

What do you think he's worth given that? Smart/Nesmith/picks? That's about all we got to really work with at this point. You could send TT as well, but they barely have salary to match Smart after Oubre expires. Unless they wanna send Dray.

They offered Wiggins/2 for Hayward/Smart. So I think they'd want multiple win-now vets that fill areas of need, and maybe some cap relief. Not sure how to get there, but he is gettable, IMO.

[Ernest]

Pretty good deadline. Sucks to lose Theis but he was gone anyways. We needed more scoring and to shake things up and we did that. This team needs to get out of this funk and hopefully these trades help

[Ill News]

I like Ainge assuring Marcus Smart.

It shows that Ainge cares about the Celtic players.

Read on Twitter

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I think he was humbled by Benedict Allen and all of the studs leaving him at the alter over the last few seasons. Def a good move, especially if he wants to keep Marcus around longterm. I’m hoping he does, time will tell.

This hopefully translates to good karma for us down the line, we've had bad juju in recent years because Ainge has been a bit of a ruthless snake to his players, even to those who should've been lifelong Celtics because they loved it here. The most egregious ones being:

Perkins being traded for Jeff Green and Krstic
Pierce(!) and KG being traded away
Ray Allen forcing his way out after feeling disrespected from being dangled in trade talks constantly
IT being shipped for that toxic assfart Kyrie despite embracing the city

I know, I know, some of those moves were absolutely necessary for the future of the franchise (the Pierce/KG trade and the IT one), but I can't help but feel the basketball gods have been kicking us in the nuts ever since because of those moves. Agents are steering star players away from Boston because we don't reward loyalty, and we've had LOTS of bad luck.

And yeah, I know this is crazy superstitious talk, but I don't care.

[moonie_mcgee]

I think Wiseman is gettable.

He's not ready to help that team win titles in the next year or two.

What happened to him?
He was so frickin good.
I would.

[Ill News]

It would be amazing if Rondo could help the other LA team win a title again. The Clippers getting him is a low-key great move; Playoff Rondo still exists, and he always seems to play well for a real contender. Plus they no longer have Lou Williams who can be exploited so much in the playoffs because of his low defensive IQ.

[Captain_Caveman]

I think Wiseman is gettable.

He's not ready to help that team win titles in the next year or two.

What happened to him?
He was so frickin good.
I would.

Rookie big man who hit the league after basically no college and no training camp.

[Bad-Thoma]

Some teams have lost 70% of revenue. But LOL @ needlessly taking on a repeater tax next year just to go like $1m into the tax with a guy they aren't even resigning on a team that cant win a title.

If this is a go no where team then why trade for Fournier?

Can't argue both sides of this coin my friend.

I like the Fournier move but the Theis move is crazy.

If they are really not feeling this season, then reboot in the off-season and actually use the TPE on someone who's gonna be here.

And we just went from thin in the middle to invisible.

I like Rwill but he has trouble staying healthy.

Theis was a reeeeally weird move. If it was luxury tax related then just stand pat and play out the string.

Because they want to be a good team? The issue is the repeater tax on a team that its currently poised to be $20m into the tax next year, not the prorated remainder of Fournier's contract.

Are there really multiple people arguing against this?

There really are. For the record, for those people, I don't give a **** about the ownership's money either excepting when it's mismanaged in a way that will cost us chances to improve down the road. The Theis trade was a good financial move, not because it saves the owners money, because it keeps the repeater penalty from limiting the teams ability to pay players should we get to the border of contention again. It's really, really **** simple. I mean really, really **** simple.

[djFan71]

I think Wiseman is gettable.

He's not ready to help that team win titles in the next year or two.

What do you think he's worth given that? Smart/Nesmith/picks? That's about all we got to really work with at this point. You could send TT as well, but they barely have salary to match Smart after Oubre expires. Unless they wanna send Dray.

They offered Wiggins/2 for Hayward/Smart. So I think they'd want multiple win-now vets that fill areas of need, and maybe some cap relief. Not sure how to get there, but he is gettable, IMO.

Yeah, that's the hard part, I'm not sure we have multiple disposable win-now vets that could conceivably save them money. You're basically in Jaylen/Smart for Wiggens/Wiseman/Looney range. You'd have to really love Wisemans for a few years down the road. Maybe if you split Kemba into pieces first, you could have something.

Have you watched him enough to have an opinion on if he's worth the gamble? I've really only seen a few games - amazing physicals, but a few years away at least. You'd basically be hoping he's capable of being AD 2.0 if you make the move.

[themoneyteam2]

Well no, that’s why the copy and paste function was invented. Good on you for picking that up.

You're OK man, but I will take this opportunity to say that BigTrade92 has been against literally every big trade we have done in the last 10 years, lol.

Thanks man, but not really, plus they haven’t made many big trades aside from Irving which I rightfully hated as that guy was and still is a chump.

I was waiting for the big trade: Harden. Ainge pussed out.

Harden, Tatum, Kemba, and the bag of chips remaining wouldn’t be doing **** in the East lol. That would be a panic move if I’ve ever seen one and Harden would be out in a year.

That’s the big trade you wanted? LMAOOOOOOOOOO

[djFan71]

You were rightcevic on wanting vucevic over kembacevic

Neithervic was still the best option.

My wanting to trade Hayward for CP3 was the best option lol

Nah, though, I did underestimate his impact on PHO. I keep feeling like he'll turn into a pumpkin some day, but he hasn't yet.

Keep Baynes and our picks, trade for Iggy & a pick, draft NAW/Clarke/Claxton, feature Hayward/Jays/Smart. Sign a Rubio/Joseph type, or, heck, iirc, you were on keep Rozier island with me for at least a few days. I was renting condos cheap!

[SLCceltic]

If anyone contributing to this site doesn’t think the Celtics are a better team now then they were this morning.....you’re dead wrong. Fournier is going to help a lot. Balances things out nicely in that rotation.

he is going to open things up for everybody ...esp Kemba !

[SLCceltic]

If we add LmA our starting 5 will give us 100 pts every single nite #

[djFan71]

How long before the Kings regret not trading Barnes? One more missed postseason? 2? 3?

I didn't even want him here due to tax implications, but, man, how could they have 1 year when they make good decisions, screw our pick, then literally fire the coach and go back to sucking.

[SLCceltic]

If this is a go no where team then why trade for Fournier?

Can't argue both sides of this coin my friend.

I like the Fournier move but the Theis move is crazy.

If they are really not feeling this season, then reboot in the off-season and actually use the TPE on someone who's gonna be here.

And we just went from thin in the middle to invisible.

I like Rwill but he has trouble staying healthy.

Theis was a reeeeally weird move. If it was luxury tax related then just stand pat and play out the string.

Because they want to be a good team? The issue is the repeater tax on a team that its currently poised to be $20m into the tax next year, not the prorated remainder of Fournier's contract.

Are there really multiple people arguing against this?

There really are. For the record, for those people, I don't give a **** about the ownership's money either excepting when it's mismanaged in a way that will cost us chances to improve down the road. The Theis trade was a good financial move, not because it saves the owners money, because it keeps the repeater penalty from limiting the teams ability to pay players should we get to the border of contention again. It's really, really **** simple. I mean really, really **** simple.

And the Theis deal also created a 5m trade except while openeing up a roster spot to add a buyout Big

[BoogieTime]

How long before the Kings regret not trading Barnes? One more missed postseason? 2? 3?

I didn't even want him here due to tax implications, but, man, how could they have 1 year when they make good decisions, screw our pick, then literally fire the coach and go back to sucking.

The team is competitive now without scrub Bagley bringing down the lineup, as you guys saw a few games back

Fox/Hali/Hield/Barnes/Holmes was statistically one of the better lineups in the league for much the season. With a subpar coach and bench that was hopefully upgraded

Do we even know what Ainge was offering?