It's a Tragedy to see the Deadline's Over Post Trade Thread

Afam · Post #401 » by **Afam** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:21 am

Post #402 » by **djFan71** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:25 am

BoogieTime wrote:
djFan71 wrote:How long before the Kings regret not trading Barnes? One more missed postseason? 2? 3?

I didn't even want him here due to tax implications, but, man, how could they have 1 year when they make good decisions, screw our pick, then literally fire the coach and go back to sucking.

The team is competitive now without scrub Bagley bringing down the lineup, as you guys saw a few games back

Fox/Hali/Hield/Barnes/Holmes was statistically one of the better lineups in the league for much the season. With a subpar coach and bench that was hopefully upgraded

Do we even know what Ainge was offering?

No, I'm sure it wasn't wow you into accepting it type offer though, mainly due to the tax, it was just hard.

I'm a little bitter over the 2019 pick and you guys getting Hali instead of us, lol, but you do have some nice talent to build on. Just feels like you would have been better served cashing in on the peak Barnes market (if it even existed). One young guy and a pick seems better than holding on to Barnes, but I can't say I'm super well-versed on your plan there.

Post #403 » by **djFan71** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:26 am

Afam wrote:

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lol, how do you like Chipotle, Andre?
We need KO to get bought out first so he can sign here and then be part of the Drummond pitch.

themoneyteam2 · Post #404 » by **themoneyteam2** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:28 am

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BoogieTime · Post #405 » by **BoogieTime** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:30 am

djFan71 wrote:
BoogieTime wrote:
djFan71 wrote:How long before the Kings regret not trading Barnes? One more missed postseason? 2? 3?

I didn't even want him here due to tax implications, but, man, how could they have 1 year when they make good decisions, screw our pick, then literally fire the coach and go back to sucking.

The team is competitive now without scrub Bagley bringing down the lineup, as you guys saw a few games back

Fox/Hali/Hield/Barnes/Holmes was statistically one of the better lineups in the league for much the season. With a subpar coach and bench that was hopefully upgraded

Do we even know what Ainge was offering?

No, I'm sure it wasn't wow you into accepting it type offer though, mainly due to the tax, it was just hard.

I'm a little bitter over the 2019 pick and you guys getting Hali instead of us, lol, but you do have some nice talent to build on. Just feels like you would have been better served cashing in on the peak Barnes market (if it even existed). One young guy and a pick seems better than holding on to Barnes, but I can't say I'm super well-versed on your plan there.

He’s steady, it’s hard to find vets that don’t hurt you on the floor

But he’s also a respected figure in the locker room and good guy. It wouldn’t send the appropriate message to the youth that we’re moving him to tank

But I wouldn’t worry too much. Fournier is a decent get. Was it ever confirmed that the Kings were offered that pick and a young player or was that media? We know Ainge is a mighty barter

Afam · Post #406 » by **Afam** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:30 am

Go get Andre or Lamarcus. Those two players makes the Celtics a much better team.

Post #407 » by **djFan71** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:34 am

BoogieTime wrote:
djFan71 wrote:
BoogieTime wrote:
The team is competitive now without scrub Bagley bringing down the lineup, as you guys saw a few games back

Fox/Hali/Hield/Barnes/Holmes was statistically one of the better lineups in the league for much the season. With a subpar coach and bench that was hopefully upgraded

Do we even know what Ainge was offering?

No, I'm sure it wasn't wow you into accepting it type offer though, mainly due to the tax, it was just hard.

I'm a little bitter over the 2019 pick and you guys getting Hali instead of us, lol, but you do have some nice talent to build on. Just feels like you would have been better served cashing in on the peak Barnes market (if it even existed). One young guy and a pick seems better than holding on to Barnes, but I can't say I'm super well-versed on your plan there.

He’s steady, it’s hard to find vets that don’t hurt you on the floor

But he’s also a respected figure in the locker room and good guy. It wouldn’t send the appropriate message to the youth that we’re moving him to tank

But I wouldn’t worry too much. Fournier is a decent get. Was it ever confirmed that the Kings were offered that pick and a young player or was that media? We know Ainge is a mighty barter

Yeah, I'm happier with Fournier given the overall picture with finances involved, but Barnes is a solid player. Just seems like some contender would offer pick/young guy, you guys get a better pick this year as well. I'm not sure BOS ever put in an actual offer or not. I know our media guys ran with the narrative, but it really just never made sense salary wise for BOS since we were trying to avoid the repeater.

themoneyteam2 · Post #408 » by **themoneyteam2** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:36 am

Afam wrote:Go get Andre or Lamarcus. Those two players makes the Celtics a much better team.

You must’ve missed the part where LMA isn’t meeting the Celtics...

It’s also the 35 yr old corpse of LMA btw

Andrew McCeltic · Post #409 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:36 am

New York for the money or LA for the high profile..

Andrew McCeltic · Post #410 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:40 am

Buyouts always end the same way, there are 2-3 teams who snag all of the most coveted players. Brooklyn, Miami, and the Lakers will get Drummond.

CelticsPride18 · Post #411 » by **CelticsPride18** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:42 am

I hate Drummond. If people hate TT this guy is going to be worse.

GoCeltics123 · Post #412 » by **GoCeltics123** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:43 am

Drummond is so trash I hope we don't get him

Ed Pinkney · Post #413 » by **Ed Pinkney** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:50 am

GoCeltics123 wrote:Drummond is so trash I hope we don't get him

He is probably better than Thompson though, and will not cost much.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #414 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:06 am

Looking at player salaries next summer to see who we might get for the 10 million TPE or a 9 million Tristan Thompson. Not looking good.

Gurton Buster · Post #415 » by **Gurton Buster** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:29 am

Captain_Caveman wrote:
djFan71 wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:I think Wiseman is gettable.

He's not ready to help that team win titles in the next year or two.

What do you think he's worth given that? Smart/Nesmith/picks? That's about all we got to really work with at this point. You could send TT as well, but they barely have salary to match Smart after Oubre expires. Unless they wanna send Dray.

They offered Wiggins/2 for Hayward/Smart. So I think they'd want multiple win-now vets that fill areas of need, and maybe some cap relief. Not sure how to get there, but he is gettable, IMO.

The fact that we didn't do this trade and Hayward left a month later is criminal. Imagine LaMelo Ball :lol:

on this team..... Now thats a ten year window :roll:

SLCceltic · Post #416 » by **SLCceltic** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:32 am

themoneyteam2 wrote:

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how are different teams allowed to give more money ?? I thought a buyout FA could only sign a vet min deal, unless you are under the cap which only 2 teams currently under cap iirc...

Post #417 » by **Bleeding Green** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:44 am

SLCceltic wrote:
themoneyteam2 wrote:

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how are different teams allowed to give more money ?? I thought a buyout FA could only sign a vet min deal, unless you are under the cap which only 2 teams currently under cap iirc...

Some teams can offer the BAE which, at 3.8m is more than the vet min (~2.5m).

Knicks have 14m in cap space so they are a potential landing spot for players despite being almost as bad as the Celtics.

LewisnotMiller · Post #418 » by **LewisnotMiller** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:52 am

Quite like the Fournier trade.
Dislike losing Theis for nothing, but I understand he was leaving at year end regardless.

Don't really want to sign anyone now. Just roll with TT and Rob, and work out if Korner/Wagner can be a decent stretch third stringer.
(Although our rebounding is going to go from bad to worse I think...!!)

Ernest · Post #419 » by **Ernest** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:37 am

Bad-Thoma wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
winsomme2 wrote:

If this is a go no where team then why trade for Fournier?

Can't argue both sides of this coin my friend.

I like the Fournier move but the Theis move is crazy.

If they are really not feeling this season, then reboot in the off-season and actually use the TPE on someone who's gonna be here.

And we just went from thin in the middle to invisible.

I like Rwill but he has trouble staying healthy.

Theis was a reeeeally weird move. If it was luxury tax related then just stand pat and play out the string.

Because they want to be a good team? The issue is the repeater tax on a team that its currently poised to be $20m into the tax next year, not the prorated remainder of Fournier's contract.

Are there really multiple people arguing against this?

There really are. For the record, for those people, I don't give a **** about the ownership's money either excepting when it's mismanaged in a way that will cost us chances to improve down the road. The Theis trade was a good financial move, not because it saves the owners money, because it keeps the repeater penalty from limiting the teams ability to pay players should we get to the border of contention again. It's really, really **** simple. I mean really, really **** simple.

It's amazing how many people on here don't understand. It's been spelled out so many times. People are just willingly ignorant. Feel like there are 5 or 6 of us who get it and everyone else is screaming "fire Ainge."

Ill News · Post #420 » by **Ill News** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:43 am

Drummond looks tantalizing on paper, but he probably won't contribute much more than Thompson already does. His only skill is rebounding. That's it. He doesn't do anything else well; plays inconsistent defense, no jumper whatsoever, and his inside game is nothing to write home about. He's good as a lob threat, but that's about it.