The Official Cunningham vs Suggs Thread #Tank4Either

[Indeed]

Now can look at bigs!!!!

Queta, Garza, Prkacin, Bassey, Huff?

Every single god damn year...some dude drops and we are like, how is this guy dropping! wish we had a pick

this year we god damn do

Last season Raps just won an extra game so couldn't draft Paul Reed.

Also Hukporti and Todd possibly with the pick.

I am unsure they are quick enough to switch, and they seem to be stop-gap C.
C is the hardest to fill, while being the less important. I think we may look for a PF/C who is tough and strong enough to play some C.

[PhilBlackson]

Now can look at bigs!!!!

Queta, Garza, Prkacin, Bassey, Huff?

Every single god damn year...some dude drops and we are like, how is this guy dropping! wish we had a pick

this year we god damn do

Last season Raps just won an extra game so couldn't draft Paul Reed.

Also Hukporti and Todd possibly with the pick.

I think mock drafts are dead wrong if they have Todd falling all the way to the 2nd round but...

A) if he did I would take him over Hukporti without 2nd thought

B) us having two 2nd rounders, we may be able to trade up to the late 1st round for a player that drops

I don't see Todd falling that far. He basically imo plays like Harrison Barnes but he's even taller and looks to have more dog in him. While Barnes didn't come anywhere near his draft hype. If there were a taller version of him in the late 1st or 2nd round, that's a steal.

Although personally I'd prefer the strategy of trading our 2 picks to get to the end of the 1st for someone who drops (almost don't care who it is lol) because the team just addressing needs with role players will only help us to continue to tread water/the mill. We need an injection of talent we can hopefully develop into something. I don't care if it's someone like BJ Boston, Isaiah Todd etc. I'd rather see what our developmental staff can do with a talented prospect that can perhaps be at the level (or better) than OG or Pascal than another Bismack Biyombo lol n I'm just not all that intrigued by really any C prospects not named Mobley or Jones.

Mentioned Hukporti too awhile ago but very unsure. Whereas I'm fairly confident our staff would get something outta Todd, Boston etc we may have to draft Kai Jones for a best of both worlds (potential and need) considering we'll likely fallout the top 10 even though I'll be crossing fingers for one of Johnson, Bouknight or Christopher before him.

[Psubs]

I think mock drafts are dead wrong if they have Todd falling all the way to the 2nd round but...

A) if he did I would take him over Hukporti without 2nd thought

B) us having two 2nd rounders, we may be able to trade up to the late 1st round for a player that drops

I don't see Todd falling that far. He basically imo plays like Harrison Barnes but he's even taller and looks to have more dog in him. While Barnes didn't come anywhere near his draft hype. If there were a taller version of him in the late 1st or 2nd round, that's a steal.

Although personally I'd prefer the strategy of trading our 2 picks to get to the end of the 1st for someone who drops (almost don't care who it is lol) because the team just addressing needs with role players will only help us to continue to tread water/the mill. We need an injection of talent we can hopefully develop into something. I don't care if it's someone like BJ Boston, Isaiah Todd etc. I'd rather see what our developmental staff can do with a talented prospect that can perhaps be at the level (or better) than OG or Pascal than another Bismack Biyombo lol n I'm just not all that intrigued by really any C prospects not named Mobley or Jones.

Mentioned Hukporti too awhile ago but very unsure. Whereas I'm fairly confident our staff would get something outta Todd, Boston etc we may have to draft Kai Jones for a best of both worlds (potential and need) considering we'll likely fallout the top 10

There's a trend for the Raptors to draft seniors late 1st and in the 2nd round. I think Huff could be a 7'1 Boucher. A couple of years of experience and getting stronger and he's ready for the rotation.

Watch on YouTube

[WeTheNorth123]

I think mock drafts are dead wrong if they have Todd falling all the way to the 2nd round but...

A) if he did I would take him over Hukporti without 2nd thought

B) us having two 2nd rounders, we may be able to trade up to the late 1st round for a player that drops

I don't see Todd falling that far. He basically imo plays like Harrison Barnes but he's even taller and looks to have more dog in him. While Barnes didn't come anywhere near his draft hype. If there were a taller version of him in the late 1st or 2nd round, that's a steal.

Although personally I'd prefer the strategy of trading our 2 picks to get to the end of the 1st for someone who drops (almost don't care who it is lol) because the team just addressing needs with role players will only help us to continue to tread water/the mill. We need an injection of talent we can hopefully develop into something. I don't care if it's someone like BJ Boston, Isaiah Todd etc. I'd rather see what our developmental staff can do with a talented prospect that can perhaps be at the level (or better) than OG or Pascal than another Bismack Biyombo lol n I'm just not all that intrigued by really any C prospects not named Mobley or Jones.

Mentioned Hukporti too awhile ago but very unsure. Whereas I'm fairly confident our staff would get something outta Todd, Boston etc we may have to draft Kai Jones for a best of both worlds (potential and need) considering we'll likely fallout the top 10

There's a trend for the Raptors to draft seniors late 1st and in the 2nd round. I think Huff could be a 7'1 Boucher. A couple of years of experience and getting stronger and he's ready for the rotation.

Watch on YouTube

This is the guy i want

[Mark_83]

Need to trade for a 2nd rounder. It was used as a salary dump for Greg Monroe I believe.

Getting a developmental big like Queta, Hukporti, or Huff in the second would be great.

Or Bassey.
But we have no 2nd round pick.

Masai delivering us two second rounders to pick our project big men.

45) Queta, Hukporti, Huff
49) Huff, Todd, Bassey

Also we have two current roster spots empty. We better sign Kabengele, who was just waived by the Kings. I still believe he can be developed a la Boucher.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2021/03/kings-expected-to-waive-jabari-parker.html?fv-home=true&post-id=217017

[Gold Dragon]

I am as anti-tank as they come but we currently have the 7th best odds for the #1 pick at 7.5%. We only have 28 more games to play. We are a worse team in the short term after trading away Norm, TD and Thomas and only getting GTJ back and the shell of Rodney Hood.

We are not out tanking Minny, Detroit, Houston and Orlando. So we are really just looking at Washington (2.5 games behind us) and Cleveland (1 game behind) that could improve our odds. And we don't want to win more games than OKC, CHI, NO, SAC, IND who are within 2.5 games of us.

Even with Lowry on board, we just need to play around 0.500 ball to likely get the best odds we are getting which is the 6th best odds and a 9% chance for Cade (which is not really that different from the #1-5 teams of 14%-10.5%). And Cleveland needs to pick it up. They have beat the 6ers, celtics and us in the last month so it could happen.

[TorontoRapsFan]

How do you all feel about Bassey? He looks NBA ready. Not sure why Mark_83 above me has him as a 2nd rounder. I see a mid lotto guy.

[JShuttlesworth]

The fact that we got 2 SRPs yesterday makes the draft a lot more exciting. It'll be very interesting to see who is still on the board, hopefully one of those picks is used to get us a big man, because we desperately need some big men in our development system.

I still have us winning around 15 more games to close off the season, but we'll see how we look with the new squad.

I'm cheering for the Knicks / Bulls / Pacers to close off the season strong. I don't want any part of those play in games.

[Indeed]

How do you all feel about Bassey? He looks NBA ready. Not sure why Mark_83 above me has him as a 2nd rounder. I see a mid lotto guy.

May not drop that far low to the 40s.

[Indeed]

I am as anti-tank as they come but we currently have the 7th best odds for the #1 pick at 7.5%. We only have 28 more games to play. We are a worse team in the short term after trading away Norm, TD and Thomas and only getting GTJ back and the shell of Rodney Hood.

We are not out tanking Minny, Detroit, Houston and Orlando. So we are really just looking at Washington (2.5 games behind us) and Cleveland (1 game behind) that could improve our odds. And we don't want to win more games than OKC, CHI, NO, SAC, IND who are within 2.5 games of us.

Even with Lowry on board, we just need to play around 0.500 ball to likely get the best odds we are getting which is the 6th best odds and a 9% chance for Cade (which is not really that different from the #1-5 teams of 14%-10.5%). And Cleveland needs to pick it up. They have beat the 6ers, celtics and us in the last month so it could happen.

I still wouldn't expect a #1 overall pick, even though it is up to Silver.
I think expecting the range around 6 - 8 makes more sense, so I assume this will be between Barnes, Kuminga and then a few options in Jalen Johnson, Keon Johnson, James Bouknight?

[BoyzNTheHood]

I think now that the roster is set we might make a playoff push so I'll hold back hoping for a top-10 pick for now, but I'm overjoyed at the prospect of two 2nd rounders. I get the impression Masai would go with one senior, and one high risk high reward guy.

[Psubs]

How do you all feel about Bassey? He looks NBA ready. Not sure why Mark_83 above me has him as a 2nd rounder. I see a mid lotto guy.

Tankathon!

http://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft

It's like the mock that I most look at and don't have a confused look at why a player is put in a spot.

[Bruin]

How do you all feel about Bassey? He looks NBA ready. Not sure why Mark_83 above me has him as a 2nd rounder. I see a mid lotto guy.

May not drop that far low to the 40s.

If Masai wants a guy in the 30s I’m certain he’ll get it. Just combine the 2 picks in the 40s and that’ll do it. Trades like that happen often in the 2nd round so I’m sure we could do it if Masai finds a guy he wants

[NotMyKawhi]

stop talking abt guys not ranked in the top 10 unless they are projected 2nd round picks

[Bruin]

stop talking abt guys not ranked in the top 10 unless they are projected 2nd round picks

Why not? There’s always great talent to be found in the 2nd round. The MVP favorite this year was a 2nd rounder

[Mark_83]

How do you all feel about Bassey? He looks NBA ready. Not sure why Mark_83 above me has him as a 2nd rounder. I see a mid lotto guy.

Tankathon!

http://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft

It's like the mock that I most look at and don't have a confused look at why a player is put in a spot.

That's actually what I based my rankings on.

[Indeed]

How do you all feel about Bassey? He looks NBA ready. Not sure why Mark_83 above me has him as a 2nd rounder. I see a mid lotto guy.

May not drop that far low to the 40s.

If Masai wants a guy in the 30s I’m certain he’ll get it. Just combine the 2 picks in the 40s and that’ll do it. Trades like that happen often in the 2nd round so I’m sure we could do it if Masai finds a guy he wants

I am unsure, as I wish to trade up a few times, but we never done that.

Meanwhile, we might trade one of the 2nd round for a serviceable C, as I am unsure we can compete for one in FA.

[Bruin]

May not drop that far low to the 40s.

If Masai wants a guy in the 30s I’m certain he’ll get it. Just combine the 2 picks in the 40s and that’ll do it. Trades like that happen often in the 2nd round so I’m sure we could do it if Masai finds a guy he wants

I am unsure, as I wish to trade up a few times, but we never done that.

Meanwhile, we might trade one of the 2nd round for a serviceable C, as I am unsure we can compete for one in FA.

Whether we’d actually make such a trade is to be seen but it really depends if Masai finds someone he really likes in the 30s

[Indeed]

If Masai wants a guy in the 30s I’m certain he’ll get it. Just combine the 2 picks in the 40s and that’ll do it. Trades like that happen often in the 2nd round so I’m sure we could do it if Masai finds a guy he wants

I am unsure, as I wish to trade up a few times, but we never done that.

Meanwhile, we might trade one of the 2nd round for a serviceable C, as I am unsure we can compete for one in FA.

Whether we’d actually make such a trade is to be seen but it really depends if Masai finds someone he really likes in the 30s

I suppose some contending team may not want their low 1st, and want to trade for two 2nd round, so that they can sign them as a two-way instead of taking roster spot / salary. However, it is hard to imagine teams would prefer to trade their pick in a stack draft. Some of the guards below 25 can be an immediate help as the 6th man.

[Indeed]

I think mock drafts are dead wrong if they have Todd falling all the way to the 2nd round but...

A) if he did I would take him over Hukporti without 2nd thought

B) us having two 2nd rounders, we may be able to trade up to the late 1st round for a player that drops

I don't see Todd falling that far. He basically imo plays like Harrison Barnes but he's even taller and looks to have more dog in him. While Barnes didn't come anywhere near his draft hype. If there were a taller version of him in the late 1st or 2nd round, that's a steal.

Although personally I'd prefer the strategy of trading our 2 picks to get to the end of the 1st for someone who drops (almost don't care who it is lol) because the team just addressing needs with role players will only help us to continue to tread water/the mill. We need an injection of talent we can hopefully develop into something. I don't care if it's someone like BJ Boston, Isaiah Todd etc. I'd rather see what our developmental staff can do with a talented prospect that can perhaps be at the level (or better) than OG or Pascal than another Bismack Biyombo lol n I'm just not all that intrigued by really any C prospects not named Mobley or Jones.

Mentioned Hukporti too awhile ago but very unsure. Whereas I'm fairly confident our staff would get something outta Todd, Boston etc we may have to draft Kai Jones for a best of both worlds (potential and need) considering we'll likely fallout the top 10

There's a trend for the Raptors to draft seniors late 1st and in the 2nd round. I think Huff could be a 7'1 Boucher. A couple of years of experience and getting stronger and he's ready for the rotation.

Watch on YouTube

This is the guy i want

Huff, Questa, Garza and Bassey are some backup C option for our ~#45th pick.
The question is, do we want to use this for a backup C who may not even play every game (due to matchup)? As they will be half the effectiveness in the bigger, quicker NBA.

But drafting at ~#45th, we are probably limited to backup or raw PG or SF/PF. Do we want to gamble with our 2nd round picks? Even we trade up in this year, there is not many potential mobile PF/C (may have to wait for draft combine to confirm).

Perhaps we can consider using our 2nd round picks for a starting C, as I don't see we can do better in FA?