It's a Tragedy to see the Deadline's Over Post Trade Thread

[Grooverider]

There really are. For the record, for those people, I don't give a **** about the ownership's money either excepting when it's mismanaged in a way that will cost us chances to improve down the road. The Theis trade was a good financial move, not because it saves the owners money, because it keeps the repeater penalty from limiting the teams ability to pay players should we get to the border of contention again. It's really, really **** simple. I mean really, really **** simple.

It's amazing how many people on here don't understand. It's been spelled out so many times. People are just willingly ignorant. Feel like there are 5 or 6 of us who get it and everyone else is screaming "fire Ainge."

On a board where one of our best posters just got a 12-hour ban for saying this place sucks, I'm not gonna go too far here. Its a message board and all opinions within board rules have a right to be stated. But speaking for myself, as frustrating as the team and last 12 months of life have been, I'll just be honest and say that I am only here for like 30% of the posters here. Beyond that, I don't care for the bulk of the discourse, the rampant entitlement, or what I perceive to be some taking out their COVID fatigue and/or lives out on the team.

To the topic, no, you do not trigger a repeater tax at potentially $20-25m above the tax threshold next year just to go $1m above the tax now for 29 games of Theis on a sub-.500 team that might not even make the playoffs.

I cannot and1 this post enough.

[Ernest]

It's amazing how many people on here don't understand. It's been spelled out so many times. People are just willingly ignorant. Feel like there are 5 or 6 of us who get it and everyone else is screaming "fire Ainge."

On a board where one of our best posters just got a 12-hour ban for saying this place sucks, I'm not gonna go too far here. Its a message board and all opinions within board rules have a right to be stated. But speaking for myself, as frustrating as the team and last 12 months of life have been, I'll just be honest and say that I am only here for like 30% of the posters here. Beyond that, I don't care for the bulk of the discourse, the rampant entitlement, or what I perceive to be some taking out their COVID fatigue and/or lives out on the team.

To the topic, no, you do not trigger a repeater tax at potentially $20-25m above the tax threshold next year just to go $1m above the tax now for 29 games of Theis on a sub-.500 team that might not even make the playoffs.

I cannot and1 this post enough.

Yeah. Really. Truly.

The last 2 lines need to be read by people on here. I get that a lot of fans know enough to check in at the deadline and really don't know enough to not post stuff just dripping with hate on Ainge and the team. But he really said it well in 2 lines:

To the topic, no, you do not trigger a repeater tax at potentially $20-25m above the tax threshold next year just to go $1m above the tax now for 29 games of Theis on a sub-.500 team that might not even make the playoffs.

[CeltsfaninDC]

I agree but would be more excited if the Celtics can drop Kornet and pick up a KO, Potter Jr, Dieng etc. someone that could possibly carve out a role for next year. Not real interested in a LMA, Drummond.

I thought at the beginning of this season that Kelly would make a ton of sense on this team right now. Can space off the bench and make passes to cutters. Obviously knows the system. Kind of a perfect backup to Rob.

I'm all-in on OPJ. More wings please. I think he's already earned a billion dollars in his career so maybe we can re-sign him for a dollar next season.

Ok..... no.
He's had a really bad season, is out of shape, has been hurt and wasn't worth any of the money the Wiz paid him on that big contract a few years ago. He's a 3 and D guy who isn't all that great at the D part. There is a good reason why they are buying him out

[radcot]

FWIW --- On the Murphy report that Ainge promised Marcus he wouldn't be traded. According to his interview this morning on Toucher & Rich, Ainge has never promised a player he wouldn't be traded. He did, however, say that he didn't "want" to trade Smart and that the trades including him as reported in the media were made up.

[Jaqua92]

FWIW --- On the Murphy report that Ainge promised Marcus he wouldn't be traded. According to his interview this morning on Toucher & Rich, Ainge has never promised a player he wouldn't be traded. He did, however, say that he didn't "want" to trade Smart and that the trades including him as reported in the media were made up.

That's a damn shame. Say goodbye to banner 18

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[zoyathedestroya]

I thought at the beginning of this season that Kelly would make a ton of sense on this team right now. Can space off the bench and make passes to cutters. Obviously knows the system. Kind of a perfect backup to Rob.

I'm all-in on OPJ. More wings please. I think he's already earned a billion dollars in his career so maybe we can re-sign him for a dollar next season.

Ok..... no.
He's had a really bad season, is out of shape, has been hurt and wasn't worth any of the money the Wiz paid him on that big contract a few years ago. He's a 3 and D guy who isn't all that great at the D part. There is a good reason why they are buying him out

Not even for a dollar?

[threrf23]

Ok..... no.
He's had a really bad season, is out of shape, has been hurt and wasn't worth any of the money the Wiz paid him on that big contract a few years ago. He's a 3 and D guy who isn't all that great at the D part. There is a good reason why they are buying him out

Not exactly sure what is going on this season, but if you go back to '18-19, from a statistical standpoint I have him as the league's 14th best defensive player. Better yet, '17-18, I have him ranked 12th offensively, 9th defensively, and 10th overall.

He fell off quite a bit last year in my spreadsheet, but still would have been well worth a minimum contract. And that was on 20 mpg in a messy rebuilding environment. And his per 36 stats look pretty nice this year. If you can get him as a cheap FA signing, IMO you just do it, worst case you end up cutting him.

I doubt he gets bought out, though.

[playa-hater]

When I think of Otto Porter all I can think of is this haha...

dude, between this post and LOL about Kornet not even getting a plane ticket and driving has me LOL for 5 min straight. Thanks I needed that.

[playa-hater]

How do we fix our defense? Anyone know?

Is it just an effort thing? Youth and inexperience? Lack of cohesion due to too many guys going in and out of rotation? Main guys too focused on offense/scoring?

The dropoff from last season has truly been astounding.

Effort-intensity-no more 2 little guard lineups-take Kemba out late in the 4th quarter.

[BK_2020]

When I think of Otto Porter all I can think of is this haha...

dude, between this post and LOL about Kornet not even getting a plane ticket and driving has me LOL for 5 min straight. Thanks I needed that.

It's a one hour drive to O'Hare and 1 hr 30 mins to Milwaukee.

[Ernest]

FWIW --- On the Murphy report that Ainge promised Marcus he wouldn't be traded. According to his interview this morning on Toucher & Rich, Ainge has never promised a player he wouldn't be traded. He did, however, say that he didn't "want" to trade Smart and that the trades including him as reported in the media were made up.

We have got a good GM. What would we really get for Smart? He is a top player, but what could a good team really give for him and still be a good team?

[playa-hater]

I can't believe Danny does this every **** time. There is no reason to say you got close to get Vuc. There is no **** reason.

You got Fournier. Live with it. You don't have to leak every single time how close you were to deals.

I don’t know a ton about the Vuc thing. But one thing I can vouch for is that the Magic didn’t even give Danny a chance to match the Nuggets deal for Gordon, he’d have given another pick.

Oh well.

I definitely wanted AG. but not for 2 1sts + Nesmith. Since evaluating draft talents etc. is Fun for me and this is a "better than average" draft, I at least get to have some fun with that. Who knows maybe a Key/quality player slips to us and we look back at this and say thank god we didn't make that trade.

that and perhaps as someone else said, we might be one injury to Tatum away from picking a top 10 player..

[playa-hater]

When I think of Otto Porter all I can think of is this haha...

dude, between this post and LOL about Kornet not even getting a plane ticket and driving has me LOL for 5 min straight. Thanks I needed that.

It's a one hour drive to O'Hare and 1 hr 30 mins to Milwaukee.

I LOL because it sounded funny, not because I believed Boston did anything wrong.

[GoCeltics123]

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Um, no

[Curmudgeon]

It's much, much easier to drive fo Milwaukee.

I do the same with Boston to NY. The drive is 3.5 hours and the flight is 45 minutes, but by the time you get to Logan and then get from LaGuardia to where you are going in NYC, it's 3.5 hours, and gas is cheaper than a plane ticket plus parking in Boston and a cab in NYC. Also, the music (or NBA talk) is much better on Sirius XM than it is on the plane.

On another topic they would have avoided the tax this year by waiving and stretching TT, but it would have been more expensive down the road. It's simply a question of how you feel about Theis.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

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Um, no

He is going to the Lakers or Nets so I would not worry about him signing him here.

[BK_2020]

Please Lakers sign Drummond already

[Half-Full]

Digesting the trade "meal" now... As my handle implies, I'm an optimistic sort. In thinking about the changes we made, I'm struggling a bit to maintain my optimism. Not ready to change my handle to "Half-Empty," though. First of all, I welcome the addition of Evan Fournier. I think he can really help. There is more than the usual amount of risk involved in his acquisition, though, as he will be an unrestricted free agent at the end of this year. Will the Celtics come up with the money to entice him to re-sign? Do they even plan to offer him anything? What happens if he decides to sign elsewhere? When it comes to the teams finances, I am not knowledgeable enough to offer an expert opinion. It's all a bit too arcane for me. I do know, however, that the Celtics have one of the best financial guys in the league in Mike Zarren. I feel confident that Zarren and the rest of the Celtics management team have considered all the angles, discussed all of the risks, and made a calculated decision that includes a contingency plan if things do not work out as expected. How everything will work out with the cap, tax penalties, etc., etc., is all down the road, and I'm hoping for the best. Time will tell.

As for the other players we received, I am not displeased with the acquisition of Moritz Wagner. I always liked his game, and I certainly think he adequately fills the role of a reserve big. What plans the team have for him going forward remains to be seen, but I believe he can contribute. Luke Kornet? Likely to be waived.

Like everyone else, I will miss Daniel Theis. He was a solid player who surpassed our expectations. I find it difficult to believe we couldn't have gotten a better return for him, though. Theis, Kemba, plus two first round picks for Vucevic? Hey, what do I know? Javonte? Ooof! He was my binky! I recognize that he is never going to be more than an end of bencher, but he certainly provided us with some memorable, exciting dunks. All the best to him and Daniel. Teague? He was just standing in the way of Payton Pritchard and needed to be gone. I don't wish him ill, but he never moved the needle for me, except maybe backward. And was I imagining it, or did I read that Ainge refused to include Tremont in a deal? What does that mean???

So, I'm feeling a bit of trepidation. What will the team look like next year? Will Evan Fournier be a part of the team? If he goes, what then? I think I'm going to drop a couple of Alka Seltzer in my half-full glass, and see if that helps.

[playa-hater]

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Um, no

For the record I like Drummond more than TT. But since Boston didn't get rid of TT, I don't want to see RW part of a 3 man rotation at center again.

My top choice for a buyout still remains OPJ (if bought out) or K.O as a 4 or 5 man with spacing.

[Afam]

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