Official trade thread/buy-out market 20-21 edition

[TyCobb]

We need a real threat at SG.

[kblo247]

Its been reported that the Lakers and Dennis are a ways away in contract negotiations, not good.

They tried to trade him and failed.if I’m his agent the price went up and you go pay the price or he’s go walk without any sign and trade ... just business

[iamworthy]

Its been reported that the Lakers and Dennis are a ways away in contract negotiations, not good.

They tried to trade him and failed.if I’m his agent the price went up and you go pay the price or he’s go walk without any sign and trade ... just business

Do you know how many teams have cap space this summer?

[kblo247]

We need a real threat at SG.

I would’ve added tht to the Lowry deal of Wes/Schroeder/KCP which was the offer with the caveat Gary Trent Jr comes back this way .. you get your shooting, youth, playoff experience and scoring in a wing size player. He’s restricted without the crazy ass arenas rule and you got a starting back court

[kblo247]

Its been reported that the Lakers and Dennis are a ways away in contract negotiations, not good.

They tried to trade him and failed.if I’m his agent the price went up and you go pay the price or he’s go walk without any sign and trade ... just business

Do you know how many teams have cap space this summer?

- The Knicks where Thibs would eat up his play all out and press you deal
- the Bulls if they choose to play with cap holds and they want a point guard and he’s not restricted like Ball
- OKC where he thrived with SGA already
- The Spurs where he could fit because Pop had a similar guy with speed like him he developed in Parker, and Pop made Derozan versatile so he could take him up a level
- The Pistons who don’t mind throwing money around look at how they paid Grant and Plumlee.

He can get the money. He doesn’t need to work with the lakers on a sign and trade. And he doesn’t have to cut the lakers a discount when he knows they can’t replace him with the tax mle and that Caruso and THT aren’t close to him

[kblo247]

Lakers can currently offer him a maximum starting salary of $18.6 million, the total value of which would be approximately $83 million over four years

So if over $20 million annually is something Schröder wants in each year of his deal, he’ll have to wait until the offseason, when the Lakers will have his bird rights and can go over the cap to offer him up to the maximum salary for players of 7-9 years of experience: 30% of the cap, which would be $32 million this season.

[Kilroy]

Ben McLemore and Otto Porter may get bought out... Those wouldn't be bad solutions to our shooter problems...

On the Schroder thing... How can they be 'far apart' on a deal?... He's only eligible for a 4 year/$83M deal anyway? a hair over 20M/yr doesn't sound too bad in this market... Must be years... But how is that 'far apart'...
Sounds like maybe Schroder wants to be a free agent... So maybe we should think about getting the ball rolling now... Buy him out, use the extra money to seal the deal with Drummond and maybe add someone else on the buyout market.

Looking at the contracts, Schroder is showing no Bird rights and a $23M cap hold next season... Which is probably why we tried to trade him...
And my guess is, he had no intention of agreeing to a S/T, so all we were offering was a $23M expiring...

[wco81]

Lakers can currently offer him a maximum starting salary of $18.6 million, the total value of which would be approximately $83 million over four years

So if over $20 million annually is something Schröder wants in each year of his deal, he’ll have to wait until the offseason, when the Lakers will have his bird rights and can go over the cap to offer him up to the maximum salary for players of 7-9 years of experience: 30% of the cap, which would be $32 million this season.

Yikes!

[Kilroy]

Lakers can currently offer him a maximum starting salary of $18.6 million, the total value of which would be approximately $83 million over four years

So if over $20 million annually is something Schröder wants in each year of his deal, he’ll have to wait until the offseason, when the Lakers will have his bird rights and can go over the cap to offer him up to the maximum salary for players of 7-9 years of experience: 30% of the cap, which would be $32 million this season.

Will we really have his bird rights in the offseason?

[BEazy]

Kind of getting tired of Schroder demanding things when he hasn’t even proved to be worth it. Dude is a turnover machine, and he can’t pass the ball. Last time I checked, not turning over the ball and getting assist was the main duty of a starting point guard. He’s acting way too entitled for my liking. Doesn’t seem like a team player either.

[One Love]

Schroder doesn't fit boys... He is short (hurst defensive switches), can't shoot, can't finish & is a "ME FIRST" player...

How many games has Schroder WON with the Lakers without LBJ playing... "Zero"...

Time to see if Vogel has some BALLS & starts Caruso or THT with KCP in backcourt when LBJ is back & puts Schroder with Kuzz & Harrell on the second unit, where Schroder belongs...

[iamworthy]

They tried to trade him and failed.if I’m his agent the price went up and you go pay the price or he’s go walk without any sign and trade ... just business

Do you know how many teams have cap space this summer?

- The Knicks where Thibs would eat up his play all out and press you deal
- the Bulls if they choose to play with cap holds and they want a point guard and he’s not restricted like Ball
- OKC where he thrived with SGA already
- The Spurs where he could fit because Pop had a similar guy with speed like him he developed in Parker, and Pop made Derozan versatile so he could take him up a level
- The Pistons who don’t mind throwing money around look at how they paid Grant and Plumlee.

He can get the money. He doesn’t need to work with the lakers on a sign and trade. And he doesn’t have to cut the lakers a discount when he knows they can’t replace him with the tax mle and that Caruso and THT aren’t close to him

-Are the knicks taking the ball out of RJ Barretts hands?
-Not sure why OKC would want to go down the same road while giving him a huge raise
-Spurs have Dejounte Murray
-Pistons....If thats what he wants then good luck

But I understand your point. Thanks for the rundown on the teams.

[Slava]

There'll be some nice options in the buy out market beyond Drummond and I hope Pelinka evaluates them carefully before settling on him.

Kelly Olynyk -> Shooting
Austin Rivers -> Shooting, bench scoring
Doubtful: Otto Porter - Big wing, if he gets bought out, he'd be the best of the lot

[BEazy]

Gorgui Dieng just got waived. Could be an option for us.

[kblo247]

Do you know how many teams have cap space this summer?

- The Knicks where Thibs would eat up his play all out and press you deal
- the Bulls if they choose to play with cap holds and they want a point guard and he’s not restricted like Ball
- OKC where he thrived with SGA already
- The Spurs where he could fit because Pop had a similar guy with speed like him he developed in Parker, and Pop made Derozan versatile so he could take him up a level
- The Pistons who don’t mind throwing money around look at how they paid Grant and Plumlee.

He can get the money. He doesn’t need to work with the lakers on a sign and trade. And he doesn’t have to cut the lakers a discount when he knows they can’t replace him with the tax mle and that Caruso and THT aren’t close to him

-Are the knicks taking the ball out of RJ Barretts hands?
-Not sure why OKC would want to go down the same road while giving him a huge raise
-Spurs have Dejounte Murray
-Pistons....If thats what he wants then good luck

But I understand your point. Thanks for the rundown on the teams.

I don’t think anyone wants Detroit but they do crazy **** lol. His agents best shot to get him the money IMO and then worry about getting him out of there later on.

As for NY I don’t know. I just know they are said to want a pg to go with Barrett and Randle. The bulls also want a pg to replace White in the rotation; Donovan decided White, Carter, and Mark had to earn minutes and roles the other week and that’s why Carter was gotten rid of for Vucevic and why Mark is go compete with Theis.They still talked to NO for Zo but the pelicans didn’t agree to anything, as they are trying to show Lavine they want to compete every night. To me those are the two big markets he’s got a chance at going too

[kblo247]

Lakers can currently offer him a maximum starting salary of $18.6 million, the total value of which would be approximately $83 million over four years

So if over $20 million annually is something Schröder wants in each year of his deal, he’ll have to wait until the offseason, when the Lakers will have his bird rights and can go over the cap to offer him up to the maximum salary for players of 7-9 years of experience: 30% of the cap, which would be $32 million this season.

Will we really have his bird rights in the offseason?

Yes we will. Chris Broussard even pointed it out that he wasn’t sure why people was saying Lowry is giving up assets for a rental when Dennis was a rental. He said really he viewed it as one point of the Raptors basically saying give us Pope and Tucker because Dennis wants to experience free agency for the first time.

Dennis has never been a free agent before so that’s big because he’s never been pitched to or wanted and recruited before. And yeah we will have his rights at the end of they year. When we first got him all we could offer was like 16M a year to Feb, and then we could offer starting out at 18M a year now ... He gets his most money possible waiting to this summer though as he can ask for the Max and the layers can give him the Max with his rights

[Kilroy]

Gorgui Dieng just got waived. Could be an option for us.

So we have Drummond, LMA, Dieng, Likely Whiteside, and maybe McGee...

I would guess priority would be Drummond, LMA, but who comes next? Whiteside? Dieng?... Or do we wait for McGee and get a more familiar, if less flashy face?

[tamaraw08]

Lakers can currently offer him a maximum starting salary of $18.6 million, the total value of which would be approximately $83 million over four years

So if over $20 million annually is something Schröder wants in each year of his deal, he’ll have to wait until the offseason, when the Lakers will have his bird rights and can go over the cap to offer him up to the maximum salary for players of 7-9 years of experience: 30% of the cap, which would be $32 million this season.

Will we really have his bird rights in the offseason?

Yes we will. Chris Broussard even pointed it out that he wasn’t sure why people was saying Lowry is giving up assets for a rental when Dennis was a rental. He said really he viewed it as one point of the Raptors basically saying give us Pope and Tucker because Dennis wants to experience free agency for the first time.

Dennis has never been a free agent before so that’s big because he’s never been pitched to or wanted and recruited before. And yeah we will have his rights at the end of they year. When we first got him all we could offer was like 16M a year to Feb, and then we could offer starting out at 18M a year now ... He gets his most money possible waiting to this summer though as he can ask for the Max and the layers can give him the Max with his rights

It will be interesting experience for Schroder bec I feel there a not many teams out there who are desperate for his services. Many teams have 1-2 good PGs, Maybe the Bulls... but how attracted are they with his style? Orlando? Aren't they in complete rebuild mode? Will they use their cap space on him?

[TylersLakers]

We need a real threat at SG.

Yup, don't trust KCP in the slightest. Which is why I would have felt totally comfortable going with a 3 guard rotation in the playoffs of Lowry/Matthews/Caruso and if you needed to put Kuzma in some of that action coming around screens and being a secondary creator, you could.

[TylersLakers]

Gorgui Dieng just got waived. Could be an option for us.

Yup, I almost prefer him to Drummond to be honest. But, I'd still rank Drummond the highest.

If we could come out of this with Drummond and Rivers, I'd be ecstatic. Both guys could fill it up for the time being without LeBron & AD.

Schroder/Rivers/
KCP/Caruso/
Wes/THT
Kuzma/Morris
Drummond/Harrell

Perfect 10 man rotation. In the playoffs you go with..

Schroder/Rivers
KCP (short leash)/ Caruso/
LeBron/Kuzma/
AD/
Drummond/Harrell