2021 Projected Cap Space

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2021 Projected Cap Space 

Post#1 » by NYG » Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:37 am

Which teams are projected to have realistic 2021 cap space after cap holds?
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Post#2 » by kingcong95 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:20 am

Note: Numbers below do not account for cap holds for first round picks.

NYK: 73M, but down to 12M if we include cap holds for Frank, Rose, Burks, Noel, Payton, Bullock
OKC: Won't use cap space, in order to preserve their TPEs (27.5, 12.8, 10.1, 9.6)
SAS: 52M if DeRozan and Mills are let go
TOR: 31M if Kyle leaves, Hood and Baynes are cut. They will wait to sign Trent last, because he has a puny 2.1M cap hold.
CHA: 14.6M if Graham and Monk's cap holds are kept, 30M if let go
MIA: Even if Iguodala and Dragic's team options are declined, Oladipo's cap hold will prevent them from opening any substantial cap space
MEM: 27.5M if they decline Winslow's team option and cut Jontay Porter. They may exercise it given what they gave up for him, so reduce that number to 14M.
DAL: 24M if they decline WCS team option and renounce cap hold for THJ, Boban. They can give a max by trading Richardson or Powell into someone else's cap space/TPE.
CHI: Even if Sato and Arci are cut, would need to remove Lauri's cap hold for cap space.
DET: 20M if Joseph and McGruder are cut and DSJ's cap hold is let go. Could have been more if they had stretched Griffin, but I understand why they didn't.
CLE: Not with having to hand Allen a big extension. They'd rather keep their MLE.
NOP: 24M if they let go both Lonzo and Hart.
HOU: 20M if they let go DJ Wilson.
ATL: Once you add Collins' cap hold and the MLE, they're over the cap.
ORL: 19M if they let go Birch and cut Bacon.
SAC: Would need to trade Wright into cap space if they want to offer Holmes more than the 10.5M allowed by early Bird rights.
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Post#3 » by nostradamus » Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:49 am

kingcong95 wrote:TOR: 31M if Kyle leaves, Hood and Baynes are cut. They will wait to sign Trent last, because he has a puny 2.1M cap hold.

According to one of our reporters, that 2.1M cap hold goes up to 4.7M if Trent hits either 1756 minutes played or 36 starts. He's likely to hit 1756 minutes played and may get to 36 starts too if Nurse continues playing the small ball lineup to start.
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Re: 2021 Projected Cap Space 

Post#4 » by kingcong95 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:18 am

Teams expected to be limited to taxpayer MLE: BKN, GSW, MIL, UTAH, BOS, MIN, LAC, LAL; POR depends on outcome of Powell's free agency
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Post#5 » by nate33 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:36 pm

kingcong95 wrote:Note: Numbers below do not account for cap holds for first round picks.

NYK: 73M, but down to 12M if we include cap holds for Frank, Rose, Burks, Noel, Payton, Bullock
OKC: Won't use cap space, in order to preserve their TPEs (27.5, 12.8, 10.1, 9.6)
SAS: 52M if DeRozan and Mills are let go
TOR: 31M if Kyle leaves, Hood and Baynes are cut. They will wait to sign Trent last, because he has a puny 2.1M cap hold.
CHA: 14.6M if Graham and Monk's cap holds are kept, 30M if let go
MIA: Even if Iguodala and Dragic's team options are declined, Oladipo's cap hold will prevent them from opening any substantial cap space
MEM: 27.5M if they decline Winslow's team option and cut Jontay Porter. They may exercise it given what they gave up for him, so reduce that number to 14M.
DAL: 24M if they decline WCS team option and renounce cap hold for THJ, Boban. They can give a max by trading Richardson or Powell into someone else's cap space/TPE.
CHI: Even if Sato and Arci are cut, would need to remove Lauri's cap hold for cap space.
DET: 20M if Joseph and McGruder are cut and DSJ's cap hold is let go. Could have been more if they had stretched Griffin, but I understand why they didn't.
CLE: Not with having to hand Allen a big extension. They'd rather keep their MLE.
NOP: 24M if they let go both Lonzo and Hart.
HOU: 20M if they let go DJ Wilson.
ATL: Once you add Collins' cap hold and the MLE, they're over the cap.
ORL: 19M if they let go Birch and cut Bacon.
SAC: Would need to trade Wright into cap space if they want to offer Holmes more than the 10.5M allowed by early Bird rights.

Man, that's a lot of money chasing not a lot of free agents. Guys like Oladipo, Jarrett Allen, Fournier, Oubre, Ball, Collins and Holmes are gonna get paid!
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Post#6 » by JasonStern » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:40 pm

kingcong95 wrote:POR depends on outcome of Powell's free agency


Portland will not have cap space until Dame and CJ's contracts come off the books.
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Re: 2021 Projected Cap Space 

Post#7 » by Texas Chuck » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:43 pm

kingcong95 wrote:DAL: 24M if they decline WCS team option and renounce cap hold for THJ, Boban. They can give a max by trading Richardson or Powell into someone else's cap space/TPE.


Great breakdown overall. For Dallas Richardson likely opts out and then has a big cap hold, but they probably don't have to trade him to get his number off the books. And while I don't want to do it, because Powell will have 2 years left, they can stretch his number over 5 years instead of paying assets they don't have to get off his money.
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Post#8 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:51 pm

OKC may use those TPEs but they can also renounce them and have about 60m in cap space. Probably comes down to the salary slots of their draft picks and whether they resign anyone. With Diallo gone Bradley, Svi, Justin Jackson are the only candidates.

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Also, I am not sure on the specifics of this, but I wouldn't be surprised if Shai got some kind of raise and extend next year if it's allowed. Seems very much like a Presti move.
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Post#9 » by cjmcallist » Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:59 pm

The projected cap is at $112m (I think that's right?).

At this point, OKC salaries for next season are $48m. Awesome. Of course there are roster holds and draft picks. But, dang that's sweet. OKC isn't typically a player in FA, but with SGA's emergence maybe we shake that up this time around.

Also, jambalaya pointed out that with the cap spike, targeting contracts that expire in 2024 would be beneficial. Maybe OKC overpays for a couple of guys on 3 year contracts.
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Post#10 » by kingcong95 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:09 pm

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kingcong95 wrote:POR depends on outcome of Powell's free agency


Portland will not have cap space until Dame and CJ's contracts come off the books.


I was talking about the non-tax MLE in this case, not cap space.
Next year, the Blazers have 115.5M committed to 8 players. I am assuming Nurkic, who is non guaranteed, will not get cut, while Derrick Jones exercises his player option but Powell doesn't. They don't have any draft picks to account for, barring a last minute purchase in the second round.
If they pony up to keep Powell, they'll go past the tax line of 136.6M and thus limited to the tax MLE to fill probably only 5 spots. Otherwise, they can use the 9.5M MLE (if they split it) and 3.7M BAE and still have enough room under the tax to offer something decent to Melo and Collins if they wish. They have early Bird rights on Melo, but if they don't want to guarantee him 2 years, would have to use one of those exceptions to offer more than 1.95M.
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Post#11 » by kingcong95 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:13 pm

cjmcallist wrote:The projected cap is at $112m (I think that's right?).

At this point, OKC salaries for next season are $48m. Awesome. Of course there are roster holds and draft picks. But, dang that's sweet. OKC isn't typically a player in FA, but with SGA's emergence maybe we shake that up this time around.

Also, jambalaya pointed out that with the cap spike, targeting contracts that expire in 2024 would be beneficial. Maybe OKC overpays for a couple of guys on 3 year contracts.


Your trade exceptions are worth 60M. That is the same amount of available cap space. If you sign any free agent with cap space, you lose those TPEs. Given the lackluster quality of free agents out there, I think it is more likely to use those TPEs to take on contracts other teams don't want and collect even moar PICKS.
Another option: if you do sign free agents, use those TPEs to get them via sign and trade. Then the free agent's old team gets a TPE of their own for the trouble.
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Post#12 » by Buzzard » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:16 pm

Great list and its good to see Atl could use a MLE. At least they have something to beat out tax payer MLE's with. I still think Schlenk will be conservative with Collins, Trae, and Huerter all coming up for extensions. But with Trader Trav things can change in the blink of an eye.
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Post#13 » by realEAST » Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:40 pm

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kingcong95 wrote:DAL: 24M if they decline WCS team option and renounce cap hold for THJ, Boban. They can give a max by trading Richardson or Powell into someone else's cap space/TPE.


Great breakdown overall. For Dallas Richardson likely opts out and then has a big cap hold, but they probably don't have to trade him to get his number off the books. And while I don't want to do it, because Powell will have 2 years left, they can stretch his number over 5 years instead of paying assets they don't have to get off his money.


I think an interesting option with Richardson would be him opting in, and then signing extension, opening extra room for Dallas.

And if Hardaway resigns for 11-12.5 mil a season (T. Ross type of contract, I think it would be fair, especially if Hardaway get an extra year) , and Powell is stretched, Dallas has max space while retaining key rotation pieces
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Post#14 » by Mike lorenzo » Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:55 pm

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kingcong95 wrote:DAL: 24M if they decline WCS team option and renounce cap hold for THJ, Boban. They can give a max by trading Richardson or Powell into someone else's cap space/TPE.


Great breakdown overall. For Dallas Richardson likely opts out and then has a big cap hold, but they probably don't have to trade him to get his number off the books. And while I don't want to do it, because Powell will have 2 years left, they can stretch his number over 5 years instead of paying assets they don't have to get off his money.

How much do I think JRich can get ... I am aware that the boy has not received a big paycheck in his career ... rank 15/18..?
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Post#15 » by cjmcallist » Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:31 pm

kingcong95 wrote:
cjmcallist wrote:The projected cap is at $112m (I think that's right?).

At this point, OKC salaries for next season are $48m. Awesome. Of course there are roster holds and draft picks. But, dang that's sweet. OKC isn't typically a player in FA, but with SGA's emergence maybe we shake that up this time around.

Also, jambalaya pointed out that with the cap spike, targeting contracts that expire in 2024 would be beneficial. Maybe OKC overpays for a couple of guys on 3 year contracts.


Your trade exceptions are worth 60M. That is the same amount of available cap space. If you sign any free agent with cap space, you lose those TPEs. Given the lackluster quality of free agents out there, I think it is more likely to use those TPEs to take on contracts other teams don't want and collect even moar PICKS.
Another option: if you do sign free agents, use those TPEs to get them via sign and trade. Then the free agent's old team gets a TPE of their own for the trouble.

I'm wondering if SGA's emergence has accelerated the timeline a bit. If we can use the space to sign two young FAs to oversized three year deals, that might be a better path than taking on salary for more picks.

Not that I wouldn't do the latter, just that it might not be the #1 option anymore.

EDIT: This hinges on our draft position. We only go after FA if we get our guy in the draft.
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Re: 2021 Projected Cap Space 

Post#16 » by NYG » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:20 pm

nate33 wrote:
kingcong95 wrote:Note: Numbers below do not account for cap holds for first round picks.

NYK: 73M, but down to 12M if we include cap holds for Frank, Rose, Burks, Noel, Payton, Bullock
OKC: Won't use cap space, in order to preserve their TPEs (27.5, 12.8, 10.1, 9.6)
SAS: 52M if DeRozan and Mills are let go
TOR: 31M if Kyle leaves, Hood and Baynes are cut. They will wait to sign Trent last, because he has a puny 2.1M cap hold.
CHA: 14.6M if Graham and Monk's cap holds are kept, 30M if let go
MIA: Even if Iguodala and Dragic's team options are declined, Oladipo's cap hold will prevent them from opening any substantial cap space
MEM: 27.5M if they decline Winslow's team option and cut Jontay Porter. They may exercise it given what they gave up for him, so reduce that number to 14M.
DAL: 24M if they decline WCS team option and renounce cap hold for THJ, Boban. They can give a max by trading Richardson or Powell into someone else's cap space/TPE.
CHI: Even if Sato and Arci are cut, would need to remove Lauri's cap hold for cap space.
DET: 20M if Joseph and McGruder are cut and DSJ's cap hold is let go. Could have been more if they had stretched Griffin, but I understand why they didn't.
CLE: Not with having to hand Allen a big extension. They'd rather keep their MLE.
NOP: 24M if they let go both Lonzo and Hart.
HOU: 20M if they let go DJ Wilson.
ATL: Once you add Collins' cap hold and the MLE, they're over the cap.
ORL: 19M if they let go Birch and cut Bacon.
SAC: Would need to trade Wright into cap space if they want to offer Holmes more than the 10.5M allowed by early Bird rights.

Man, that's a lot of money chasing not a lot of free agents. Guys like Oladipo, Jarrett Allen, Fournier, Oubre, Ball, Collins and Holmes are gonna get paid!



A. awesome breakdown kingcong
B. nate, I was thinking the same thing when I saw how much cap space there is for a really bad free agent market.

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