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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#341 » by thesack12 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:17 pm

https://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/Zach-Wilson-49ers-NFL-Draft-2021-Jimmy-Garoppolo-15727692.php

49ers GM John Lynch confirms team watched BYU quarterback Zach Wilson in person


I thought I remembered hearing about this. That was from November.

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/145684-49ers-john-lynch-attendance-byu-pro-day/

According to analyst Matt Miller, formerly of Bleacher Report, San Francisco 49ers general manager John Lynch is in attendance for BYU's pro day scheduled for today.


Coming from the "of course he was, why wouldn't he be" news. I just think its interesting considering the timing of today's trade and BYU's pro day being today as well.
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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#342 » by wco81 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:34 pm

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clyde21 wrote:wish we could've just traded for Tua tbh but w/e


I was actually just about to make a post asking, who would have been down for trading #12 for Tua?



Not me.

Dolphins may have to use those draft assets to get another QB in a year.
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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#343 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:34 pm

thesack12 wrote:I can't help but wonder if this move would have been made had they not won that Arizona game in week 16. If so, what would the cost looked like then?

I don't currently know where the tiebreakers would have fell, but if they lost that Zona game, 9ers would have been picking somewhere between 7-10. Of course it would be critical to know exactly what pick they would of had, but I can't help but get my mind spinning on the what ifs. Its now apparent that Miami is good with picking #6. That being the case if 9ers had #7, what would it have cost to move up only 4 spots?

Of course this is all butterfly effect type stuff here, but its an interesting thought that popped into my head.


It's a good question. I'm pretty sure we would have been picking 9th. We would have had the same record as Detroit, Carolina, and Denver. Detroit and Carolina both had easier strength of schedule and thus would have been ahead of us. Our was .549 and Denver's was .566. Obviously losing to AZ would have raised our SOS a bit, especially as they count twice toward our SOS, but I think that only would have raised our SOS by about .008.

Not sure how much that would have changed the package we sent. Maybe the 2023 pick would have been a second or third instead of a first.
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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#344 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:05 pm

Florio on the Garoppolo situation:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/26/49ers-pivot-to-posturing-for-a-jimmy-garoppolo-trade/

The pay cut thought is an interesting one that hadn't even really crossed my mind. If the Niners cut him, he won't make that much money somewhere else at this point. No team has the cap space for it. It might be in his best interest to take a $12 million hit and go to another team. Or stay with the Niners and try to use the year to rehabilitate his value. They could even agree to void his final year so he would be a FA next year and can test the market. If Dalton and Fitzpatrick at worth $10 million in a depressed market, Garoppolo could probably get $15 million next year unless he tanks this year.
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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#345 » by thesack12 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:12 pm

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thesack12 wrote:I can't help but wonder if this move would have been made had they not won that Arizona game in week 16. If so, what would the cost looked like then?

I don't currently know where the tiebreakers would have fell, but if they lost that Zona game, 9ers would have been picking somewhere between 7-10. Of course it would be critical to know exactly what pick they would of had, but I can't help but get my mind spinning on the what ifs. Its now apparent that Miami is good with picking #6. That being the case if 9ers had #7, what would it have cost to move up only 4 spots?

Of course this is all butterfly effect type stuff here, but its an interesting thought that popped into my head.


It's a good question. I'm pretty sure we would have been picking 9th. We would have had the same record as Detroit, Carolina, and Denver. Detroit and Carolina both had easier strength of schedule and thus would have been ahead of us. Our was .549 and Denver's was .566. Obviously losing to AZ would have raised our SOS a bit, especially as they count twice toward our SOS, but I think that only would have raised our SOS by about .008.

Not sure how much that would have changed the package we sent. Maybe the 2023 pick would have been a second or third instead of a first.


Appreciate the info/data on the tiebreakers.

Had the 9ers been slotted 9th, I tend to agree the cost to move to 3 would have been pretty close to what you mentioned. However, I do wonder if they would have been more apt to wait until draft day and see how the board was starting to fall into place before making that move. Especially if Jones is their target *puke*
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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#346 » by thesack12 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:21 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:Florio on the Garoppolo situation:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/26/49ers-pivot-to-posturing-for-a-jimmy-garoppolo-trade/

The pay cut thought is an interesting one that hadn't even really crossed my mind. If the Niners cut him, he won't make that much money somewhere else at this point. No team has the cap space for it. It might be in his best interest to take a $12 million hit and go to another team. Or stay with the Niners and try to use the year to rehabilitate his value. They could even agree to void his final year so he would be a FA next year and can test the market. If Dalton and Fitzpatrick at worth $10 million in a depressed market, Garoppolo could probably get $15 million next year unless he tanks this year.


At this point, I just don't see the upside in approaching Jimmy about a paycut. Short of eyeing a trade for a veteran at some point, opening up cap space at this stage in the offseason doesn't seem like an overly concerning issue. Even if a trade for a veteran comes up, its usually not hard to create the necessary cap space to fit somebody in.

Also if you do ask him for a paycut in exchange of voiding next season, you just killed any opportunity you would of had by being able to trade him next year. I know people are down on the guy, but this is easily the most talent he's had around him. We have to remember with all the injuries last season, the core group on offense never even had the opportunity to practice together, let alone play together. Its not at all hard to imagine, Jimmy having a bounce back year.

If Jimbo struggles this season, the team can get out of his contract for next year super easily. So to me, its worth keeping him around on his current contract in order to reap the potential trade reward next year.
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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#347 » by thesack12 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:23 pm

wco81 wrote:
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clyde21 wrote:wish we could've just traded for Tua tbh but w/e


I was actually just about to make a post asking, who would have been down for trading #12 for Tua?



Not me.

Dolphins may have to use those draft assets to get another QB in a year.


As we currently stand today, I probably wouldn't have made that move. However if they draft Mac Jones, I reserve the right to change my mind :lol:
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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#348 » by Warriorfan » Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:00 am

49ers trade up to get the 3rd pick I think its Fields.
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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#349 » by Ray_Dogg » Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:28 am

clyde21 wrote:had to be done, QBs make or break this league. good for Lynch for having balls to do this.

but if he takes Jones at 3 then lol

If he takes Jones at three someone in my house better protect the television. I’ll hand in my Kyle fan club card and give the eff up right then and there.
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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#350 » by Ray_Dogg » Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:31 am

A scout that was at the BYU pro day texted Dane Brugler and told him the Jets are taking Wilson. So...
Lance or Fields for us. All my excitement for the trade went right out the window as soon as talking heads mentioned Mac Jones though. I have a very big concern growing inside me. This is gonna be a brutal outcome. I just know it.
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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#351 » by CrimsonCrew » Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:32 am

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CrimsonCrew wrote:Florio on the Garoppolo situation:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/26/49ers-pivot-to-posturing-for-a-jimmy-garoppolo-trade/

The pay cut thought is an interesting one that hadn't even really crossed my mind. If the Niners cut him, he won't make that much money somewhere else at this point. No team has the cap space for it. It might be in his best interest to take a $12 million hit and go to another team. Or stay with the Niners and try to use the year to rehabilitate his value. They could even agree to void his final year so he would be a FA next year and can test the market. If Dalton and Fitzpatrick at worth $10 million in a depressed market, Garoppolo could probably get $15 million next year unless he tanks this year.


At this point, I just don't see the upside in approaching Jimmy about a paycut. Short of eyeing a trade for a veteran at some point, opening up cap space at this stage in the offseason doesn't seem like an overly concerning issue. Even if a trade for a veteran comes up, its usually not hard to create the necessary cap space to fit somebody in.

Also if you do ask him for a paycut in exchange of voiding next season, you just killed any opportunity you would of had by being able to trade him next year. I know people are down on the guy, but this is easily the most talent he's had around him. We have to remember with all the injuries last season, the core group on offense never even had the opportunity to practice together, let alone play together. Its not at all hard to imagine, Jimmy having a bounce back year.

If Jimbo struggles this season, the team can get out of his contract for next year super easily. So to me, its worth keeping him around on his current contract in order to reap the potential trade reward next year.


Opening up cap space is ALWAYS a concerning issue. As said, they can roll over any unused cap space into next year. So even if they don't use it this year, it's not like that space just vanishes like it used to.

A pay cut for Garoppolo makes sense for both parties. For us, it's a no-brainer. We would save money if we want to keep him around this year, and we might enhance Garoppolo's trade market if we don't. He really has no trade market as things stand now. Maybe the Pats would be interested, but they've only got about $12 million left in cap space. Only the Jags (won't want him) and Colts (highly unlikely to want him) have the cap space to take on his current contract.

But a pay cut may also make sense for Garoppolo. He has no real future on this team, and may be eager to get started somewhere else. As said, he has a much better chance of getting traded with a lower cap figure. If we do cut him, he'll be lucky to land a $10 million contract. That means he'd be eating about a $14 million loss. So maybe he agrees to cut his salary to $15 million to hedge his bets.

Voiding his final year is a mixed bag. If we want to keep him this year and then trade him next year, that's probably not the way to go. But even if he has a great year, his value may not really go up much as he'll only have a single year left on his deal at a relatively high dollar figure.
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Post#352 » by Ray_Dogg » Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:46 am

Also I want to know why they kicked the tires on Dalton, Trubisky and Flacco.
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Post#353 » by wco81 » Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:48 am

They were talking up how Jones processes the field.

Please.

He sits behind a dominant OL and just throws to elite WRs who get big separation in a couple of seconds.

There’s a reason Alabama QBs haven’t produced in the NFL in decades. Same is true of OSU and USC QBs too.
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Post#354 » by CrimsonCrew » Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:58 am

wco81 wrote:They were talking up how Jones processes the field.

Please.

He sits behind a dominant OL and just throws to elite WRs who get big separation in a couple of seconds.

There’s a reason Alabama QBs haven’t produced in the NFL in decades. Same is true of OSU and USC QBs too.


Good, then, that we're torn between a 'Bama QB, an OSU QB, and a QB from the D1A equivalent of those schools. I'm on board with moving up aggressively, but I'm going to have major reservations about whoever we take until I see them produce on the field.
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Post#355 » by Dodub » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:45 am

I’m sad because this move all but confirms that the Jets are taking Wilson at #2. I really really really wanted to see him in a 49ers jersey. I know Kyle will help whoever we draft (Fields or Lance) reach their potential, but I’m gonna have a hard time seeing #1 in a Jets uniform.

As for the other two, for some reason Lance just intrigues me. I know he needs the most work out of the group, but he would have the opportunity to sit and learn. His ability is outstanding.
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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#356 » by thesack12 » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:25 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
thesack12 wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:Florio on the Garoppolo situation:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/26/49ers-pivot-to-posturing-for-a-jimmy-garoppolo-trade/

The pay cut thought is an interesting one that hadn't even really crossed my mind. If the Niners cut him, he won't make that much money somewhere else at this point. No team has the cap space for it. It might be in his best interest to take a $12 million hit and go to another team. Or stay with the Niners and try to use the year to rehabilitate his value. They could even agree to void his final year so he would be a FA next year and can test the market. If Dalton and Fitzpatrick at worth $10 million in a depressed market, Garoppolo could probably get $15 million next year unless he tanks this year.


At this point, I just don't see the upside in approaching Jimmy about a paycut. Short of eyeing a trade for a veteran at some point, opening up cap space at this stage in the offseason doesn't seem like an overly concerning issue. Even if a trade for a veteran comes up, its usually not hard to create the necessary cap space to fit somebody in.

Also if you do ask him for a paycut in exchange of voiding next season, you just killed any opportunity you would of had by being able to trade him next year. I know people are down on the guy, but this is easily the most talent he's had around him. We have to remember with all the injuries last season, the core group on offense never even had the opportunity to practice together, let alone play together. Its not at all hard to imagine, Jimmy having a bounce back year.

If Jimbo struggles this season, the team can get out of his contract for next year super easily. So to me, its worth keeping him around on his current contract in order to reap the potential trade reward next year.


Opening up cap space is ALWAYS a concerning issue. As said, they can roll over any unused cap space into next year. So even if they don't use it this year, it's not like that space just vanishes like it used to.

A pay cut for Garoppolo makes sense for both parties. For us, it's a no-brainer. We would save money if we want to keep him around this year, and we might enhance Garoppolo's trade market if we don't. He really has no trade market as things stand now. Maybe the Pats would be interested, but they've only got about $12 million left in cap space. Only the Jags (won't want him) and Colts (highly unlikely to want him) have the cap space to take on his current contract.

But a pay cut may also make sense for Garoppolo. He has no real future on this team, and may be eager to get started somewhere else. As said, he has a much better chance of getting traded with a lower cap figure. If we do cut him, he'll be lucky to land a $10 million contract. That means he'd be eating about a $14 million loss. So maybe he agrees to cut his salary to $15 million to hedge his bets.

Voiding his final year is a mixed bag. If we want to keep him this year and then trade him next year, that's probably not the way to go. But even if he has a great year, his value may not really go up much as he'll only have a single year left on his deal at a relatively high dollar figure.


On the surface, I agree on the cap space points. However, with the way Jimmy's deal is structured they would actually get more cap space by moving on from him next season as opposed to this year. Its not much, about $1.5 mil more, but still more. Furthermore, while cap space always has value, at this point in the offseason its not nearly as important as it was a couple weeks ago. So if the intention is to just roll it over to next season, that doesn't seem like much motivation when the ability to create the cap space next season isn't going anywhere.

Of course the paycut would make sense for the team, but I don't think it does for Jimmy. Now if he would agree to a cut without voiding next season (thus killing a potential trade next season), sure party down. But Jimmy will want some kind of concession from the team in order to do so. Lynch and Shanahan have already come out and said that Jimmy is the starter for 2021, which means they aren't cutting him. So unless that is just a flat out lie, if you are Jimmy why would you agree to a pay cut? Short of Carolina (who is likely to be aggressive for a QB in the draft), there are no other clear paths to a starting job. In addition, Jimmy's best opportunity to have a bounceback season (in what figures to be a pseudo contract year for all intents and purposes) is with the 49ers. He obviously won't have to try and learn a new offense, like he would if he left, and he has far and away the most offensive talent around him than he's ever had here.

Assuming he has a nice bounceback season and the team is successful, you could argue that a Jimmy's contract would be pretty attractive on the trade market. It gives the team some flexibility, unlike a situation like the Colts where if Wentz continues to suck they are stuck with him for several more years at a monster cap hit. Someone trading for Jimmy next season, would take on a contract that isn't crippling (12th highest QB) and have a full season to get an intimate look at him to see if they want him as part of their future. If not, you can quickly move on to finding the next guy. If so, you'll be looking to extend a guy who is 32 years old so he won't command top dollar. However, from the team perspective he'll be a very "young" 32 year old in that he still wouldn't have much mileage on him. What like a total of like 4-5 seasons worth of of actual playing time. And if they are still on the fence at the time, the franchise tag is always an option to buy more time should they choose to do so.

To conclude, short of Jimmy doing the team a solid and taking a cut this season without any other incentive for him, with the cap space always being available next season I just don't see the motivation to do anything with Jimmy's contract. But that's just me.
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Post#357 » by thesack12 » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:56 pm

Another thing I feel is noteworthy, both Shanahan and Lynch recently signed extensions. Kyle through 2025, and John through 2024.

These guys are afforded some time. They made this move looking at the long view. They don't need the rookie to step in and be gangbusters from day 1 to save their jobs. They also don't need the kid to play at all in the short term, as they have a very capable QB already in house.

While this move will still cement their legacy/fate with the team good or bad, they can be patient with the new kid to help maximize his potential. Therefore, I think the plan was always to redshirt the rookie.
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Post#358 » by CrimsonCrew » Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:46 pm

thesack12 wrote:On the surface, I agree on the cap space points. However, with the way Jimmy's deal is structured they would actually get more cap space by moving on from him next season as opposed to this year. Its not much, about $1.5 mil more, but still more. Furthermore, while cap space always has value, at this point in the offseason its not nearly as important as it was a couple weeks ago. So if the intention is to just roll it over to next season, that doesn't seem like much motivation when the ability to create the cap space next season isn't going anywhere.

Of course the paycut would make sense for the team, but I don't think it does for Jimmy. Now if he would agree to a cut without voiding next season (thus killing a potential trade next season), sure party down. But Jimmy will want some kind of concession from the team in order to do so. Lynch and Shanahan have already come out and said that Jimmy is the starter for 2021, which means they aren't cutting him. So unless that is just a flat out lie, if you are Jimmy why would you agree to a pay cut? Short of Carolina (who is likely to be aggressive for a QB in the draft), there are no other clear paths to a starting job. In addition, Jimmy's best opportunity to have a bounceback season (in what figures to be a pseudo contract year for all intents and purposes) is with the 49ers. He obviously won't have to try and learn a new offense, like he would if he left, and he has far and away the most offensive talent around him than he's ever had here.

Assuming he has a nice bounceback season and the team is successful, you could argue that a Jimmy's contract would be pretty attractive on the trade market. It gives the team some flexibility, unlike a situation like the Colts where if Wentz continues to suck they are stuck with him for several more years at a monster cap hit. Someone trading for Jimmy next season, would take on a contract that isn't crippling (12th highest QB) and have a full season to get an intimate look at him to see if they want him as part of their future. If not, you can quickly move on to finding the next guy. If so, you'll be looking to extend a guy who is 32 years old so he won't command top dollar. However, from the team perspective he'll be a very "young" 32 year old in that he still wouldn't have much mileage on him. What like a total of like 4-5 seasons worth of of actual playing time. And if they are still on the fence at the time, the franchise tag is always an option to buy more time should they choose to do so.

To conclude, short of Jimmy doing the team a solid and taking a cut this season without any other incentive for him, with the cap space always being available next season I just don't see the motivation to do anything with Jimmy's contract. But that's just me.


I'm not saying this to be a dick, but your comment about the team saving more by moving on from Garoppolo next year makes me wonder if you understand how the salary cap works. Yes, in relative terms, they save $23.6 million by cutting or trading him this year, and they would save $25.6 million if they cut or traded him next year (I'm looking at his contract breakdown on Spotrac to get these numbers). Presumably that's where you're coming up with this argument about more savings by moving on from him next year. Here's the problem with the argument: they will have paid him an additional $23.6 million THIS YEAR.

Over the next two years, the team can realize cap savings of $49.2 million by moving on from him now, or they can realize savings of $25.6 million by moving on from him next year. Obviously the savings are dramatically higher if they part ways with him this year. And with those savings, you either spend some of it this season - admittedly the pickings are slim, but maybe you bring in Jadeveon Clowney on a one-year deal - or you roll the total amount into next season.

Another way to think about this. Let's say they keep Garoppolo and basically max out their cap this year following the draft, which seems likely. At present, they have about $173 million committed for the 2022 season (according to overthecap). Let's say the cap next year will be $200 million (it was almost that much in 2020). Remove Garoppolo next year and they have about $148 million committed, and thus about $52 million in cap space before making any moves. But remove him this year, and you roll that $23.6 million into next year. So in 2022, instead of $52 million in cap space, they would have about $76 million. You can use ALL of that money to re-sign players like Warner and Bosa, or they can be semi-aggressive in FA to partially make up for the lack of impact draft picks.

This presents a strong incentive to move on from Garoppolo this year. Now, look, I've already said I don't think they do that. I think the most likely result - by far - is that Garoppolo returns and plays one more season on his current contract. But it's there, and Garoppolo's agents know it's there. As you pointed out, at this point, Garoppolo doesn't have many other options if he wants to rehabilitate his value this season. There aren't many openings for a starter, fewer that can afford anything close to his current cap figure, and none that can field the sort of talent the Niners can. So he actually has a pretty strong incentive to stick with the Niners and try to replicate or improve upon his 2019 performance, even if it means losing out on a decent chunk of change.

You're getting hung up on my mention that they could void his final year. That was almost a throwaway thought on my part. They can do that, but they certainly don't have to, and it may be that it's in both parties' interests not to. That way, Garoppolo would, in theory, still have that high salary if he does rebound, have a strong season, and get traded. And the Niners would still have his contract rights for another season and could trade him after the season when there might be more of a market for him.
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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#359 » by tres » Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:04 pm

Read on Twitter


Wonder how long he’ll be on the team this time..
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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#360 » by thesack12 » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:54 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
thesack12 wrote:On the surface, I agree on the cap space points. However, with the way Jimmy's deal is structured they would actually get more cap space by moving on from him next season as opposed to this year. Its not much, about $1.5 mil more, but still more. Furthermore, while cap space always has value, at this point in the offseason its not nearly as important as it was a couple weeks ago. So if the intention is to just roll it over to next season, that doesn't seem like much motivation when the ability to create the cap space next season isn't going anywhere.

Of course the paycut would make sense for the team, but I don't think it does for Jimmy. Now if he would agree to a cut without voiding next season (thus killing a potential trade next season), sure party down. But Jimmy will want some kind of concession from the team in order to do so. Lynch and Shanahan have already come out and said that Jimmy is the starter for 2021, which means they aren't cutting him. So unless that is just a flat out lie, if you are Jimmy why would you agree to a pay cut? Short of Carolina (who is likely to be aggressive for a QB in the draft), there are no other clear paths to a starting job. In addition, Jimmy's best opportunity to have a bounceback season (in what figures to be a pseudo contract year for all intents and purposes) is with the 49ers. He obviously won't have to try and learn a new offense, like he would if he left, and he has far and away the most offensive talent around him than he's ever had here.

Assuming he has a nice bounceback season and the team is successful, you could argue that a Jimmy's contract would be pretty attractive on the trade market. It gives the team some flexibility, unlike a situation like the Colts where if Wentz continues to suck they are stuck with him for several more years at a monster cap hit. Someone trading for Jimmy next season, would take on a contract that isn't crippling (12th highest QB) and have a full season to get an intimate look at him to see if they want him as part of their future. If not, you can quickly move on to finding the next guy. If so, you'll be looking to extend a guy who is 32 years old so he won't command top dollar. However, from the team perspective he'll be a very "young" 32 year old in that he still wouldn't have much mileage on him. What like a total of like 4-5 seasons worth of of actual playing time. And if they are still on the fence at the time, the franchise tag is always an option to buy more time should they choose to do so.

To conclude, short of Jimmy doing the team a solid and taking a cut this season without any other incentive for him, with the cap space always being available next season I just don't see the motivation to do anything with Jimmy's contract. But that's just me.


I'm not saying this to be a dick, but your comment about the team saving more by moving on from Garoppolo next year makes me wonder if you understand how the salary cap works. Yes, in relative terms, they save $23.6 million by cutting or trading him this year, and they would save $25.6 million if they cut or traded him next year (I'm looking at his contract breakdown on Spotrac to get these numbers). Presumably that's where you're coming up with this argument about more savings by moving on from him next year. Here's the problem with the argument: they will have paid him an additional $23.6 million THIS YEAR.

Over the next two years, the team can realize cap savings of $49.2 million by moving on from him now, or they can realize savings of $25.6 million by moving on from him next year. Obviously the savings are dramatically higher if they part ways with him this year. And with those savings, you either spend some of it this season - admittedly the pickings are slim, but maybe you bring in Jadeveon Clowney on a one-year deal - or you roll the total amount into next season.

Another way to think about this. Let's say they keep Garoppolo and basically max out their cap this year following the draft, which seems likely. At present, they have about $173 million committed for the 2022 season (according to overthecap). Let's say the cap next year will be $200 million (it was almost that much in 2020). Remove Garoppolo next year and they have about $148 million committed, and thus about $52 million in cap space before making any moves. But remove him this year, and you roll that $23.6 million into next year. So in 2022, instead of $52 million in cap space, they would have about $76 million. You can use ALL of that money to re-sign players like Warner and Bosa, or they can be semi-aggressive in FA to partially make up for the lack of impact draft picks.

This presents a strong incentive to move on from Garoppolo this year. Now, look, I've already said I don't think they do that. I think the most likely result - by far - is that Garoppolo returns and plays one more season on his current contract. But it's there, and Garoppolo's agents know it's there. As you pointed out, at this point, Garoppolo doesn't have many other options if he wants to rehabilitate his value this season. There aren't many openings for a starter, fewer that can afford anything close to his current cap figure, and none that can field the sort of talent the Niners can. So he actually has a pretty strong incentive to stick with the Niners and try to replicate or improve upon his 2019 performance, even if it means losing out on a decent chunk of change.

You're getting hung up on my mention that they could void his final year. That was almost a throwaway thought on my part. They can do that, but they certainly don't have to, and it may be that it's in both parties' interests not to. That way, Garoppolo would, in theory, still have that high salary if he does rebound, have a strong season, and get traded. And the Niners would still have his contract rights for another season and could trade him after the season when there might be more of a market for him.


I'm not going to pretend like I'm a capologist, but I'm aware of the general framework of how it works. I'm also aware that cap space is not the only thing to consider in this equation, especially for THIS season.

If you get rid of Jimmy now, not only do you sacrifice any chances you would of had of trading him later for assets to help restock the cupboard they just depleted. You are also punting on the season, realistically speaking, by handing the keys to a rookie QB. You would be doing this while the roster is firmly within a contendership window. In the process of this, you are also putting a monumental amount of pressure on the kids shoulders to perform from day 1. Throwing rookie QB's into the fire from jump isn't always the best thing for their long term development, and thats even true when those guys aren't under pressure to excel immediately. When you throw a kid to the wolves (while playing in by far the toughest division in the NFL) and expect him to engineer a 12 win season + a deep playoff run, that could turn out to be disastrous to the kid's psyche.

Again, I'll mention that if Jimmy would agree to a pay cut without any concessions from the team, of course its a no brainer move. Short of him feeling spited and just wants to leave, I just don't see why Jimmy would be amenable to such a thing for the reasons we both have already discussed. If you are the team, why make the concession of either giving him more guaranteed money for next season which makes it harder to move on from him next season if he struggles this year, or voiding the year all together to allow him to control his own destiny and team loses out on being able to get something for him in trade if he thrives this season. Is either of those risk worth creating a couple more million dollars in cap space for this season? Unless there is another concession they could offer, that I'm not thinking of right now, to me it just doesn't seem like there is enough common motivation between Jimmy and the team to make such a move.

Of course, I say all this with the belief that I truly feel like the plan all along is to redshirt the rookie. The team already saying Jimmy is the starter for 2021 further cements that belief. There always remains the possibility, that is a bluff to try an create trade leverage right now. However, there just doesn't seem to be any kind of realistic trade market out there currently. I don't know, I just think there is far too much at stake for this coming season (and the long term investment of the incoming rookie) to not have Jimmy as the guy this year.

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