Can someone discuss cap space?

[MartinsIzAfraud]

As of right now the Magic have 10 guaranteed contracts for next season totaling approximately $93.4 million.

Harris 20.4M
Isaac 17.4M
Fultz 16.5M
Ross 12.5M
Bamba 7.5M
Carter Jr. 6.9M
Anthony 3.4M
MCW 3.3M
Okeke 3.2M
Hampton 2.3M

Throw in the Magic’s own first round pick (approximately 7M) and the Bulls first round pick (approximately 3M) and you’re at roughly 103.4M on 12 players.

That would give the Magic around $9M or so in salary cap space.

Summer of 2022 is when they’ll have much more significant cap space as Harris and MCW come off the books.

Spent some time this morning on capulator, we're over the cap for this upcoming year by about 7M with 13 rostered players (including the 2 1st round picks). We do have the full MLE of 9,535,000, maybe they sign OPJ to a 2 year deal 2nd year option?

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=926877849605df0586b99e878074411

21 is where things get really interesting and I'd even say on draft night this year. If WCJ shows that he is better than Bamba I could see this FO packaging Bamba + Bulls pick to possibly move up. That would also get them off his 20M Cap hold immediately while getting something for Bamba If he doesn't show any promise)

A Lot of IF's but there are paths which we didn't have until yesterday.

I have what Knightro has, can you show your work? I had the same thought with Bamba, package and upgrade.

click the link my dude.. it will show you everything

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=926877849605df0586b99e878074411

[Knightro]

click the link my dude.. it will show you everything

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=926877849605df0586b99e878074411

Two things...

-Bacon's contract for 21-22 isn't guaranteed.

-I think the calculator is adding up the salaries wrong. I manually counted all the salaries you have listed and they only add up to $106.186M which is roughly $6M *under* the $112M salary cap, not $7M *over*.

[JBSouthpaw]

Originally when I clicked on the link MIA, it didn't work. Second link did. Thanks M.I.A.

That Salary number includes the Mid & Bi exemptions. the 106M are the committed salaries.

[Knightro]

Originally when I clicked on the link MIA, it didn't work. Second link did. Thanks M.I.A.

That Salary number includes the Mid & Bi exemptions. the 106M are the committed salaries.

But you don't get those exemptions unless you're over the cap, which the Magic would not be at $106M in committed salary.

[JBSouthpaw]

Originally when I clicked on the link MIA, it didn't work. Second link did. Thanks M.I.A.

That Salary number includes the Mid & Bi exemptions. the 106M are the committed salaries.

But you don't get those exemptions unless you're over the cap, which the Magic would not be at $106M in committed salary.

BINGO! You and I agree.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

click the link my dude.. it will show you everything

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=926877849605df0586b99e878074411

Two things...

-Bacon's contract for 21-22 isn't guaranteed.

-I think the calculator is adding up the salaries wrong. I manually counted all the salaries you have listed and they only add up to $106.186M which is roughly $6M *under* the $112M salary cap, not $7M *over*.

something is definitely going on, i know Keith smith is working on his so it should be clearer soon.

[UCF]

So we’d still need to offload salary to sign anyone worthwhile this off-season is what I’m getting from this thread...

[jonbob17]

We should be looking to sign youngish guys in that middle grounds. Look at last offseason and the deals for Christian Wood, who everybody thought was a steal and Jerami Grant who everybody thought was an over pay.
All the good teams want to sign guys into their MLE, so above that there is less competition.

Those deals are crazy valuable now. Easier said than done, but I think you also have to look at young restricted free agents, and you just put maximum pressure on the team with the rights to match.

Sort of like Bogdan Bogdanovich last year in Atlanta.

Potential guys: Monk, Hart, Trent Jr, Bruce Brown, Ntilikina

[jonbob17]

So we’d still need to offload salary to sign anyone worthwhile this off-season is what I’m getting from this thread...

The salary cap number isn't the number that matters. The luxury cap line does. We have a ton of money under the luxury. I am not saying we will, but we could.

[basketballRob]

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/orlando-magic/cap/

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[Skybox]

We should be looking to sign youngish guys in that middle grounds. Look at last offseason and the deals for Christian Wood, who everybody thought was a steal and Jerami Grant who everybody thought was an over pay.
All the good teams want to sign guys into their MLE, so above that there is less competition.

Those deals are crazy valuable now. Easier said than done, but I think you also have to look at young restricted free agents, and you just put maximum pressure on the team with the rights to match.

Sort of like Bogdan Bogdanovich last year in Atlanta.

Potential guys: Monk, Hart, Trent Jr, Bruce Brown, Ntilikina

That would really be something if we managed to get Trent (without an insane overpay) as an RFA, I think NOLA will match on Hart but, perhaps, could move NAW for a good draft night deal. Now we have some ammo.

[orlando_joe]

i see magic moving ross this summer after letting him start and get 25 a game to bring up value...if for a future pick ...gets 12 mil more

[jonbob17]

We should be looking to sign youngish guys in that middle grounds. Look at last offseason and the deals for Christian Wood, who everybody thought was a steal and Jerami Grant who everybody thought was an over pay.
All the good teams want to sign guys into their MLE, so above that there is less competition.

Those deals are crazy valuable now. Easier said than done, but I think you also have to look at young restricted free agents, and you just put maximum pressure on the team with the rights to match.

Sort of like Bogdan Bogdanovich last year in Atlanta.

Potential guys: Monk, Hart, Trent Jr, Bruce Brown, Ntilikina

That would really be something if we managed to get Trent (without an insane overpay) as an RFA, I think NOLA will match on Hart but, perhaps, could move NAW for a good draft night deal. Now we have some ammo.

I am guessing Toronto wants to keep Trent because thought he would be a lot cheaper than Powell. He seems like he should be 10M or so but who knows. Could be crazy deals for all I know

We might be able to pull someone away. Especially with the promise of starting

[Skybox]

We should be looking to sign youngish guys in that middle grounds. Look at last offseason and the deals for Christian Wood, who everybody thought was a steal and Jerami Grant who everybody thought was an over pay.
All the good teams want to sign guys into their MLE, so above that there is less competition.

Those deals are crazy valuable now. Easier said than done, but I think you also have to look at young restricted free agents, and you just put maximum pressure on the team with the rights to match.

Sort of like Bogdan Bogdanovich last year in Atlanta.

Potential guys: Monk, Hart, Trent Jr, Bruce Brown, Ntilikina

That would really be something if we managed to get Trent (without an insane overpay) as an RFA, I think NOLA will match on Hart but, perhaps, could move NAW for a good draft night deal. Now we have some ammo.

I am guessing Toronto wants to keep Trent because thought he would be a lot cheaper than Powell. He seems like he should be 10M or so but who knows. Could be crazy deals for all I know

We might be able to pull someone away. Especially with the promise of starting

I think Trent lands at 17-18 per

[jonbob17]

I think Trent lands at 17-18 per

Why? I don't understand the Magic fans fascination with him. Portland gave him away for a rental. He's got ok size and he's a good 3 point shooter. No defense. No passing. No playmaking.

How is he better than Terrence Rosss? at $12M or Malik Beasley at $15M. I don't think Toronto traded for him to give him that much and seemingly go into the tax.

Maybe i am missing something.

I was thinking if we could get him for like 12-13 that would be too high for Toronto, and depending on who we draft he could be a starter here.

[Xatticus]

I think Trent lands at 17-18 per

Why? I don't understand the Magic fans fascination with him. Portland gave him away for a rental. He's got ok size and he's a good 3 point shooter. No defense. No passing. No playmaking.

How is he better than Terrence Rosss? at $12M or Malik Beasley at $15M. I don't think Toronto traded for him to give him that much and seemingly go into the tax.

Maybe i am missing something.

I was thinking if we could get him for like 12-13 that would be too high for Toronto, and depending on who we draft he could be a starter here.

When you have a bad offense, people pine for shooting. It's tiresome. GTJ can be a useful player, but he is limited overall. He can obviously shoot and his movement is nice, but he can't defend and he isn't a ball mover.

[Knightro]

I’m not super concerned with creating enough cap space to sign anyone of note this upcoming summer.

What I would be doing is looking to pick up some additional future draft compensation by taking on an unwanted contract using the Fournier TPE.