It's a Tragedy to see the Deadline's Over Post Trade Thread

[canman1971]

Drummond is 14 abd 14 guys and he sucks.

I get his limitations on defense, it he has been on **** teams. Just do what he does well.


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Right. 30 and 20 and no impact. Scouts are dumb asses. These are the same scouts that questioned whether Tatum has a 3-point shot, his defense and athleticism coming out of college.

As our 5th player. I will take 30 and 20.


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Yeah, that might be one of the dumbest comments I've seen. If a player has 30 and 20, perhaps you look at the other 4 players on the team regarding impact. And I'm indifferent regarding Drummond. I do know he can't be worse than many of end of the bench dudes.

[zoyathedestroya]

Stevens is excellent in getting the most out of role players. Doesn't seem like its a good system for stars and iso ball though.

Iso ball rarely works. And your stars have to be really elite at iso scoring AND iso playmaking for it to work. We don't have such a star. Guys need to buy in to playing with pace, ball and body movement as they did in the Bucks game.

Iso ball is what you need when things breakdown. But you gotta move ball first. All great teams are able to win with iso ball.

You have to be able to do it all. Iso ball is always going to be a part of our offense because Tatum is an excellent isolation talent.

It just can’t be all the time.


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End of shot clock, sure, and it's valuable in the playoffs. But if that is your primary option, you're giving the defense a pass. See MIA series.

Tatum is not on the same level of Harden, Lebron, Kawhi, Jokic, Dame. Not yet anyway. For one, he's still unable to fish for fouls. Getting right at the rim is still a struggle in some games. Not only does he have to score efficiently but learn to read defenses and make plays for his teammates in iso situations.

[GoCeltics123]

Right. 30 and 20 and no impact. Scouts are dumb asses. These are the same scouts that questioned whether Tatum has a 3-point shot, his defense and athleticism coming out of college.

As our 5th player. I will take 30 and 20.


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How could you want a guy who's this bad a finisher on your team?? So what he gets stats. He shoots 47% from the field for a big who only shoots in the paint. That's **** awful. And he plays ZERO defense.

Time lord>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Drummond

That this year?


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That is this season, yes.

He blows, period. If he signed here, I'd hope he turn it around, but I just don't think he ever will

[Ernest]

Feels like a lot of you realize we have a low chance he picks us and are trying to spin it as he sucks and we don't want him anyways.

Just finished the Bucks game. Smart making all those 3s must have pissed off a lot of people around here huh?

[Triple7]

If Drummond signs here, he is definitely starting. I’m sure that would be the deal if he goes here. Timelord would never play 30mins with Stevens anyways, and it looks like he would still start TT when he gets healthy, over Rob. So i’m all for Drummond starting over TT. Plus he would be a bonus. High reward low risk.

[zoyathedestroya]

Tall wing who can defend 1 thru 4 is the ideal buyout guy. If one exists in the market.

[Dogen]

Drummond is 14 abd 14 guys and he sucks.

I get his limitations on defense, it he has been on **** teams. Just do what he does well.


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But the C's don't need him to do that. Andre needs to adjust his game and focus on winning. He's been on teams that suck his entire career and for the minimum he'll be golden.

[bisme37]

Thon Maker is not with a team. Might be an option is the Drummond thing doesn't happen and we feel we need another big.

[zoyathedestroya]

What's Darko doing nowadays? Andray Blatche maybe?

[DarkAzcura]

Eh Drummond is pretty high reward/low risk. His impact hasn’t been very high because he takes a lot of dumb shots. First couple years in the league he took 80% of his shots at the rim, and his efficiency was fine. Nowadays it’s more like 60-65% of his shots coming at the rim because he is taking shots a bit further out. Without looking at what shots they are specifically, to me, that is an indication that he is taking some hook shots/floaters/post ups 5-7 feet away tanking his numbers. Stevens probably won’t design the offense to let him take those shots.

Losing does weird things to a player. I’m sure his efficiency will magically go back up to 65-68% FG (at rim) on whatever team he ends up on. It really becomes about limiting all of his shots past 3 feet lol.

[Dogen]

It's a simple job for Drummond: if he's out there with Kemba, Evan, JB and JT, get in position for offensive rebounds, then kick it back out to one of those guys.

KG was a master of getting a board and making the right play instead of forcing shots. Show Drummond some old KG tapes; he's still able to learn and will be on a good team.

I can't believe people would pass on this guy for the minimum. He's got a specific skill set in rebounding that is absolutely elite level in the NBA. If he buys in, the team can really make some noise in the playoffs. If he doesn't, 25 games and it's sayonara Andre.

[Dogen]

Thon Maker is not with a team. Might be an option is the Drummond thing doesn't happen and we feel we need another big.

What's Darko doing nowadays? Andray Blatche maybe?

I'll take your Maker, Darko, and Blatches and raise you a Larry Sanders. He's still only 32!

[bisme37]

Thon Maker is not with a team. Might be an option is the Drummond thing doesn't happen and we feel we need another big.

What's Darko doing nowadays? Andray Blatche maybe?

I'll take your Maker, Darko, and Blatches and raise you a Larry Sanders. He's still only 32!

Who's a guy gotta hump to get Stiemsma back on our team?

[MagicBagley18]

Feels like a lot of you realize we have a low chance he picks us and are trying to spin it as he sucks and we don't want him anyways.

Just finished the Bucks game. Smart making all those 3s must have pissed off a lot of people around here huh?

To be fair many of us said he sucked for the last 2 years when some wanted to trade Hayward for him and he had no say in who he “picks”.

Granted huge difference between Drummond on a minimum and 28 million but I don’t trust stevens enough to manage the minutes correctly and that’s why I’d rather have rob start games and got as many minutes as possible. If we get Drummond I will be his biggest fan but I just think brad will have a 3 center rotation and not manage the minutes accordingly- he trusts vets to a fault at times

[JediMasterRevan]

Maybe drimmond and thompson off the bench in the frontcourt with fournier, nesmith and pritchard providing spacing might work?

I just dont get it though.

[RickyDizzle]

Maybe a dumb question, but since Jeff Teague was traded for Fournier, do we get to reduce the amount of the TPE needed to absorb Fournier? Roughly 17 mil salary minus 2.5 mil for Jeff Teague equals 14.5 mil excess salary absorbed into TPE, means roughly 14 mil left? Or is the 10 or 11 million left accurate?

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Thank god he is leaning towards the Lakers

[GoGreen]

Sounds like Boston really wants him. Gonna be real tough to pry him away from the bright lights and beaches of LA...

[zoyathedestroya]

Maybe a dumb question, but since Jeff Teague was traded for Fournier, do we get to reduce the amount of the TPE needed to absorb Fournier? Roughly 17 mil salary minus 2.5 mil for Jeff Teague equals 14.5 mil excess salary absorbed into TPE, means roughly 14 mil left? Or is the 10 or 11 million left accurate?

It's about 11M left for us.

TPE can't be combined with a player's salary so Fournier's full salary is absorbed into the Hayward TPE. On Orlando's side of things, they generate a 14.5M TPE of their own.