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Re: Game 45 : Cleveland Cavaliers (17-27) @ Los Angeles Lakers (28-17) - 10:30PM
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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I can't believe they didn't look at the Gasol elbow. I hope Allen isn't concussed.
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cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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I can't believe Dotson and Cook are still on the roster.
What happened to our *good* G league guard?
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cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Meanwhile Wade and Windler are on the floor and no three point attempts in 3 minutes. I swear this team will win 5 more games next season just by signing an average NBA backup PG.
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cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Maybe Godon Tucker plays better than what I'm seeing tonight, but I'm not seeing much of a prospect.
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cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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No one on the floor for us right now was on an a guaranteed contract when the season started.
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cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Way too much high PNR action against a Lakers team that is trying to trap Garland on every possession. Don't bring another defender over, make him leave his man.
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cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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The Cavs are 4-23 from 3 with less than 5 minutes left in the game. Whoever we draft had better be able to shoot. This is ridiculous.
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cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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If we're tanking anyway, and clearly we are, then there's absolutely no point in playing Allen to the point of exhaustion.
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cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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I really don't want to change coaches again, but the Lakers clearly made half time adjustments as to how they were defending us and we just kept running the same offense with the same personnel.
Cedi can't be out there with Okoro and Allen when the other team is packing the paint. Wade or Windler has to be on the floor. Allen cannot be 30 feet away from the basket when they're trapping the high PNR.
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Cedi can't be out there with Okoro and Allen when the other team is packing the paint. Wade or Windler has to be on the floor. Allen cannot be 30 feet away from the basket when they're trapping the high PNR.
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cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Didnt see more than a few minutes and tbh dont have much interest at this point in the season
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It's hard to tell if we're even trying to win tbh. Delly, Love and Prince are out. McGee and Drummond are gone. We're just replacing everyone with G League guys and playing them real minutes. Taylor and Wade might be good enough to stick, but Dotson and Cook aren't really NBA players IMO.Stillwater wrote:Didnt see more than a few minutes and tbh dont have much interest at this point in the season
But we need a backup center. Allen is playing too many minutes, getting doubled or tripled down low, and you can see him getting worn out.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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jbk1234 wrote:It's hard to tell if we're even trying to win tbh. Delly, Love and Prince are out. McGee and Drummond are gone. We're just replacing everyone with G League guys and playing them real minutes. Taylor and Wade might be good enough to stick, but Dotson and Cook aren't really NBA players IMO.Stillwater wrote:Didnt see more than a few minutes and tbh dont have much interest at this point in the season
But we need a backup center. Allen is playing too many minutes, getting doubled or tripled down low, and you can see him getting worn out.
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who is taylor? you mean B Thomas? Dotson was decent in that stretch when he had heavy minutes with Sexton and DG both out but it seems his play has deteriorated significantly since that time. He started off the season overall pretty well in ltd role imo and maybe could get back to that but he clearly isnt part of any long term answers... Cook is just that cooked
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Why is windler getting no minutes and Dotson getting all kinds of burn.
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I was asking the same thing.Harper4Ferry? wrote:Why is windler getting no minutes and Dotson getting all kinds of burn.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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That's par for the course with guys like Dotson and Cook. Play a couple decent games, revert to the norm, get cut, and then get picked up again by a different team.Stillwater wrote:jbk1234 wrote:It's hard to tell if we're even trying to win tbh. Delly, Love and Prince are out. McGee and Drummond are gone. We're just replacing everyone with G League guys and playing them real minutes. Taylor and Wade might be good enough to stick, but Dotson and Cook aren't really NBA players IMO.Stillwater wrote:Didnt see more than a few minutes and tbh dont have much interest at this point in the season
But we need a backup center. Allen is playing too many minutes, getting doubled or tripled down low, and you can see him getting worn out.
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who is taylor? you mean B Thomas? Dotson was decent in that stretch when he had heavy minutes with Sexton and DG both out but it seems his play has deteriorated significantly since that time. He started off the season overall pretty well in ltd role imo and maybe could get back to that but he clearly isnt part of any long term answers... Cook is just that cooked
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cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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jbk1234 wrote:I was asking the same thing.Harper4Ferry? wrote:Why is windler getting no minutes and Dotson getting all kinds of burn.
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I'm feeling like they're just going to decline his 4th year option at this point with the way that they seemingly hate his butt.
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Harper4Ferry? wrote:jbk1234 wrote:I was asking the same thing.Harper4Ferry? wrote:Why is windler getting no minutes and Dotson getting all kinds of burn.
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I'm feeling like they're just going to decline his 4th year option at this point with the way that they seemingly hate his butt.
Quite the contrary, they've always been very high on Dylan, but IMO his confidence is shook. He'd already been struggling with his 3pt shot in March, and now he's turning over the ball what seems like 75% of the time he touches it.