Official MMA discussion thread pt 2: UFC 268 in MSG Usman vs Colby 2, Rose vs Zhang 2

[HarthorneWingo]

Stipe coming in even lighter than the first fight signals to me that he intends to do a lot moving and counter punching in the fight to wear Francis down again. Going through two fights with DC has to have helped Stipe whereas Ngannou hasn't been tested ... since Stipe.

[GONYK]

Calm Francis just left a hole where Stipe used to be

[HarthorneWingo]

[HarthorneWingo]

I can’t wait for Francis and Jon Jones to fight.

Do you think Stipe demands a rematch or retires?

[HighRyzer83]

I can’t wait for Francis and Jon Jones to fight.

Do you think Stipe demands a rematch or retires?

I don't think that is the fight to make. It's clear Francis improved. He needs another opponent.

I think Gane and Jones have the tools to him give major problems. That's about it with Carwin and Lesner out of the picture.

[GEOLINK]

Ngannou 2.0 is a scary sight

Jones might have to rethink this move up now lmao

[HarthorneWingo]

I can’t wait for Francis and Jon Jones to fight.

Do you think Stipe demands a rematch or retires?

I don't think that is the fight to make. It's clear Francis improved. He needs another opponent.

I think Gane and Jones have the tools to him give major problems. That's about it with Carwin and Lesner out of the picture.

Dana just came out and said that Jones should go down to 185 as opposed to fighting Ngannou.

[Stannis]

I can’t wait for Francis and Jon Jones to fight.

Do you think Stipe demands a rematch or retires?

Jones-Stipe

Winner fights Francis

[HighRyzer83]

I can’t wait for Francis and Jon Jones to fight.

Do you think Stipe demands a rematch or retires?

I don't think that is the fight to make. It's clear Francis improved. He needs another opponent.

I think Gane and Jones have the tools to him give major problems. That's about it with Carwin and Lesner out of the picture.

Dana just came out and said that Jones should go down to 185 as opposed to fighting Ngannou.

Lol did you see the tweet from Jones after Francis won. He said show me the money. Seems like he's already ducking my pricing himself out. Idk if you really want to fight somebody, money isn't the first thing that comes to mind. Especially when you just signed the contract and know what you're getting.

[HarthorneWingo]

I don't think that is the fight to make. It's clear Francis improved. He needs another opponent.

I think Gane and Jones have the tools to him give major problems. That's about it with Carwin and Lesner out of the picture.

Dana just came out and said that Jones should go down to 185 as opposed to fighting Ngannou.

Lol did you see the tweet from Jones after Francis won. He said show me the money. Seems like he's already ducking my pricing himself out. Idk if you really want to fight somebody, money isn't the first thing that comes to mind. Especially when you just signed the contract and know what you're getting.

Great point. Agreed.

[GONYK]

Dana just came out and said that Jones should go down to 185 as opposed to fighting Ngannou.

Lol did you see the tweet from Jones after Francis won. He said show me the money. Seems like he's already ducking my pricing himself out. Idk if you really want to fight somebody, money isn't the first thing that comes to mind. Especially when you just signed the contract and know what you're getting.

Great point. Agreed.

Did Jones sign a new contract?

[Mauro Pedrosa]

Super happy for Ngannou. Stipe is a great guy but he had a taste of the belt already. I usually root for the challenger

[HighRyzer83]

Lol did you see the tweet from Jones after Francis won. He said show me the money. Seems like he's already ducking my pricing himself out. Idk if you really want to fight somebody, money isn't the first thing that comes to mind. Especially when you just signed the contract and know what you're getting.

Great point. Agreed.

Did Jones sign a new contract?

Indeed he did

[NY 567]

Francis Ngannou is the most terrifying human being on the planet. The guy has an aura of intimidation and destruction around him that hasn't existed since Mike Tyson at his peak. You're going to see guys terrified to fight him, Jon Jones is undefeated and arguably the MMA GOAT and he clearly wants absolutely nothing to do with that monster. The speed, size, strength and bone crushing power this guy possess are ungodly. Hats off to Stipe though, he survived some insane damage and if he could have survived a little longer, he might have been able to make a fight of it. He buckled Francis with a pretty heavy shot and got too excited, he rushed in and made it a firefight and paid the price.

As far as the rest of the card goes, its sad to see how Tyron Woodley fell off so hard so fast. The guy was untouchable and then seemingly got old overnight. At least he went out on his shield last night, guy was throwing heat even when badly hurt, so respect to him.

[GONYK]

Great point. Agreed.

Did Jones sign a new contract?

Indeed he did

When did that go down?

As of last month, he was still saying this:

Read on Twitter

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[HighRyzer83]

Did Jones sign a new contract?

Indeed he did

When did that go down?

As of last month, he was still saying this:

Read on Twitter

?s=19

Dana said he would fight the winner of Stipe/Ngannou. Hmm..

[GONYK]

Indeed he did

When did that go down?

As of last month, he was still saying this:

Read on Twitter

?s=19

Dana said he would fight the winner of Stipe/Ngannou. Hmm..

That's a plan, maybe even a verbal agreement. Not a contract though.

Jones is making it clear all over Twitter today that he hasn't seen numbers that he's agreed to and signed on the dotted line for.

Calm Francis vs Bones should yield both fighters life securing money.

[HarthorneWingo]

When did that go down?

As of last month, he was still saying this:

Read on Twitter

?s=19

Dana said he would fight the winner of Stipe/Ngannou. Hmm..

That's a plan, maybe even a verbal agreement. Not a contract though.

Jones is making it clear all over Twitter today that he hasn't seen numbers that he's agreed to and signed on the dotted line for.

Calm Francis vs Bones should yield both fighters life securing money.

A promise for a promise can be a contract if one of the parties relied on that promise to their own detriment. It’s called “promissory estoppel.”

So, if Mr. White did indeed make that promise to Mr. Jones who then subsequently declines a huge offer from Bellator based on his reliance on White’s offer, then the conditions for a contract and breach thereof have been met.

[GONYK]

Dana said he would fight the winner of Stipe/Ngannou. Hmm..

That's a plan, maybe even a verbal agreement. Not a contract though.

Jones is making it clear all over Twitter today that he hasn't seen numbers that he's agreed to and signed on the dotted line for.

Calm Francis vs Bones should yield both fighters life securing money.

A promise for a promise can be a contract if one of the parties relied on that promise to their own detriment. It’s called “promissory estoppel.”

So, if Mr. White did indeed make that promise to Mr. Jones who then subsequently declines a huge offer from Bellator based on his reliance on White’s offer, then the conditions for a contract and breach thereof have been met.

So Dana better pay up, so Bones doesn't sue!

[HarthorneWingo]

That's a plan, maybe even a verbal agreement. Not a contract though.

Jones is making it clear all over Twitter today that he hasn't seen numbers that he's agreed to and signed on the dotted line for.

Calm Francis vs Bones should yield both fighters life securing money.

A promise for a promise can be a contract if one of the parties relied on that promise to their own detriment. It’s called “promissory estoppel.”

So, if Mr. White did indeed make that promise to Mr. Jones who then subsequently declines a huge offer from Bellator based on his reliance on White’s offer, then the conditions for a contract and breach thereof have been met.

So Dana better pay up, so Bones doesn't sue!

I only responded to your comment that this "wasn't a contract."

What happens after that is none of my concern.

Addendum: I will add that if Dana in fact made him a firm promise, and Jones did in fact pass up a lucrative offer from another organization, then definitely yes, Jones should sue.