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Post#141 » by Hello Brooklyn » Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:55 pm

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GTR11 wrote:KAT really loves to play vs us. Every year when he comes over he has monster games.

Jersey native, childhood Nets fan. Plus for reason at all, we actively choose to employ poor defensive strategy against him.


KAT grew up in NJ a Knicks fan. Lets not give him too much credit.

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Post#142 » by NetsJets » Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:06 pm

We can’t keep blowing late leads. This is going to bite us in the ass at the worst time. With that said glad to have Kyrie back
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Post#143 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:31 pm

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He seems to finish pretty well to me, he's shooting 74% at the rim not including tonight's game. That's very good.




Okay, so I wasn't taking crazy pills wondering where all this hyperbole over Claxton was coming from.

Typical Nets forum, someone has a bad game and it equates to the sky is falling. The team is much better with him on the court and yet we have people here saying he can't help us in the playoffs because he had a quiet night vs the Wolves.


Um I think you're overreacting a tad bit here.

Nobody said the sky was falling.

All I said was that hes been struggling offensively and theres a chance he might not be great in the playoffs.

You're being super defensive over anyone questioning anything about Claxton. Relax man :lol:


He had 3 blocks in 15 mins last night. I think he's doing fine, the offense will come, which is why I found the idea that what we're seeing now will be some indicator of whether he will or won't be great in the playoffs to be an overreaction.
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Re: GT: Nets vs. T-Wolves 3/29/2021 7:30pm EST (YES Network) 

Post#144 » by sashaturiaf » Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:47 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
ecuhus1981 wrote:
GTR11 wrote:KAT really loves to play vs us. Every year when he comes over he has monster games.

Jersey native, childhood Nets fan. Plus for reason at all, we actively choose to employ poor defensive strategy against him.


KAT grew up in NJ a Knicks fan. Lets not give him too much credit.

https://www.slamonline.com/archives/karl-anthony-towns-ive-always-been-a-knicks-fan/


Willing to forgive KAT for that one and bring him home to the Nets :D

For real. Not a bad idea if Marks found some way to load up on some assets to enter the KAT sweepstakes once he's inevitably sick of being in NBA Siberia. Guy can really hoop.
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Post#145 » by GTR11 » Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:55 pm

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:
ecuhus1981 wrote:Jersey native, childhood Nets fan. Plus for reason at all, we actively choose to employ poor defensive strategy against him.


KAT grew up in NJ a Knicks fan. Lets not give him too much credit.

https://www.slamonline.com/archives/karl-anthony-towns-ive-always-been-a-knicks-fan/


Willing to forgive KAT for that one and bring him home to the Nets :D

For real. Not a bad idea if Marks found some way to load up on some assets to enter the KAT sweepstakes once he's inevitably sick of being in NBA Siberia. Guy can really hoop.


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Post#146 » by HardenGoat » Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:07 pm

What we have been seeing is Harden sputtering at the end of games mainly from the load he has been carrying, I think he does get tired but would never admit it. Kyrie started out scorching hot but Minnesota put on a heavy defensive effort which stopped him, they pretty much took Harris out of the game as well. Harden had to put in the work to keep ahead. For Minnesota, this was their playoff finals game for the year, it was their chance to put that feather in their cap while KD is not there. I think the answer here is simply time, when KD is back then Harden will get some rest. Until then there will be games like this. I agree with the Claxton comments, other teams have done their homework on him but his offense is pretty basic at this time. I would not lean too much on a 21 year old making big waves in the post season on the offensive end. LMA is going to be a big addition, he is a previous 7 time allstar with 5 all NBA nominations. He brings veteran experience and leadership and will light a fire under Jordan for that starting job. Perfect timing.
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Post#147 » by therealbig3 » Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:26 pm

GTR11 wrote:
sashaturiaf wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
KAT grew up in NJ a Knicks fan. Lets not give him too much credit.

https://www.slamonline.com/archives/karl-anthony-towns-ive-always-been-a-knicks-fan/


Willing to forgive KAT for that one and bring him home to the Nets :D

For real. Not a bad idea if Marks found some way to load up on some assets to enter the KAT sweepstakes once he's inevitably sick of being in NBA Siberia. Guy can really hoop.


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If we get KAT mass media will have major depression. After we signed LMA major tantrum and meltdown happened :lol:


So what about Rondo and Howard for the Lakers last year? What about them signing Drummond and getting guys like Harrell and Gasol for cheap in the off season?

The double standard for the LAKERS of all teams is kind of crazy.
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Post#148 » by sashaturiaf » Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:33 pm

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GTR11 wrote:
sashaturiaf wrote:
Willing to forgive KAT for that one and bring him home to the Nets :D

For real. Not a bad idea if Marks found some way to load up on some assets to enter the KAT sweepstakes once he's inevitably sick of being in NBA Siberia. Guy can really hoop.


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If we get KAT mass media will have major depression. After we signed LMA major tantrum and meltdown happened :lol:


So what about Rondo and Howard for the Lakers last year? What about them signing Drummond and getting guys like Harrell and Gasol for cheap in the off season?

The double standard for the LAKERS of all teams is kind of crazy.


Don't try and make sense of it, the media and mainstream fandom has poisoned the well of unbiased NBA discussion. Everything has an agenda behind it because too much money is at stake and people are making their power moves behind the scenes.

The same people will tell you Rodman on Bulls was a superstar even though he was 35 years old, with no offense and attitude issues but then turn around and act like last season's Dwight Howard is a bench scrub.
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Post#149 » by Prokorov » Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:42 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Basileus777 wrote:Without Shamet and KD our backcourt depth just sucks. I can't even blame Nash for playing useless ass TLC 15 minutes. Like are we going to play Bruce Brown 40+ minutes?


This is a big part of the problem. Anytime that Nash has to go past Tyler Johnson in the rotation the quality of play drops.


Some teams dont even have a tyler johnson.

He has Harden/Kyrie/Tyler and thats with injuries limiting options. there should be no excuse we dont have the horses to maintian a 17 point lead, at home, vs one of the worst teams in the league.

These are the coaching things that make a difference but are easily glossed over because of our record. we won, so whatever. standings show a pretty 32-15 or whatever it is. but watching every game the stuff is worrisome. if this is what the pistons/wolves can do to us in 1 game on a random night what are top teams with elite coaches going to be able to exploit from nash over 7 games?

Some things like why are we waiting so long to disrupt runs? why arent timeouts called after a 8-0 run? why does it have to get to tied or 1 posseison before a timeout is called?

Why doesnt nash ever get on the refs after strings of awful calls/no calls? he needs to take a tech now and then for momentum and to get those whistles back.

Why do we ALWAYS sub in offensive players for 1 possession situationally to maximize changes to help score on a final possession but NEVER sub in defensive players for 1 possession situationally to maximize changes to help get a stop?

Claxton sat while Harris was on the floor the last 4 possessions. Claxton a better defender, more switchable, and better rebounder. This is 1 game after Nash sat Brown the final 2 possessions where we needed a stop. in both cases there were multiple stoppages to get those subs in.

It is hard for me to look at our roster... without durant and without shamet and come to the conclusion that Nash just doesnt have the horses to close out awful teams who dont go 1 deep at most spots let alone 2 or 3 deep.

15 minutes for TLC vs. 14 minutes for Claxton seems absurd to me also.
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Post#150 » by Prokorov » Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:45 pm

Stone wrote:We really got to take the below 500 teams more serious. We need to do better.


I'm not buying the "not taking serios narrative". not after this many losses, near losses, late collaposes, and nash saying it before every game.
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Post#151 » by Prokorov » Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:46 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Yall are about to give up on Claxton already? Jesus christ.


Absurd. he has shown to be out best center. its criminal he only played 14 minutes
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Post#152 » by Prokorov » Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:48 pm

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Okay, so I wasn't taking crazy pills wondering where all this hyperbole over Claxton was coming from.

Typical Nets forum, someone has a bad game and it equates to the sky is falling. The team is much better with him on the court and yet we have people here saying he can't help us in the playoffs because he had a quiet night vs the Wolves.


Um I think you're overreacting a tad bit here.

Nobody said the sky was falling.

All I said was that hes been struggling offensively and theres a chance he might not be great in the playoffs.

You're being super defensive over anyone questioning anything about Claxton. Relax man :lol:


He had 3 blocks in 15 mins last night. I think he's doing fine, the offense will come, which is why I found the idea that what we're seeing now will be some indicator of whether he will or won't be great in the playoffs to be an overreaction.


Wait... what offensive struggles?

9 points in 18 minutes on 61 TS% on a team where his role is to only shoot if its a dunk.

his offense has been fine if not good.
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Post#153 » by ecuhus1981 » Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:52 pm

Stephen A knows good and well that if his Knicks were doing this exact thing, assembling a superstar trio and supplementing with former stars on buyouts, he would be celebrating in the streets, not crying foul. He's a sore loser, and becoming a relic.
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Post#154 » by Stone » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:09 pm

Prokorov wrote:
Stone wrote:We really got to take the below 500 teams more serious. We need to do better.


I'm not buying the "not taking serios narrative". not after this many losses, near losses, late collaposes, and nash saying it before every game.



Well then what is the explanation?......It's either got to be Nash's coaching or our players being careless or not concerned.

Last night for instance, If I Nash I would have have called a time out when hey cut it to 5 points in the last two minutes. Get the guys on the same page. I get that Nash is not out there turning the ball over but he has to adjust when the momentum shifts.
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Post#155 » by Prokorov » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:38 pm

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Stone wrote:We really got to take the below 500 teams more serious. We need to do better.


I'm not buying the "not taking serios narrative". not after this many losses, near losses, late collaposes, and nash saying it before every game.



Well then what is the explanation?......It's either got to be Nash's coaching or our players being careless or not concerned.

Last night for instance, If I Nash I would have have called a time out when hey cut it to 5 points in the last two minutes. Get the guys on the same page. I get that Nash is not out there turning the ball over but he has to adjust when the momentum shifts.


to me, its nash. its not 100% nash, but a good coach and these games arent as close.
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Post#156 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:49 pm

therealbig3 wrote:
GTR11 wrote:
sashaturiaf wrote:
Willing to forgive KAT for that one and bring him home to the Nets :D

For real. Not a bad idea if Marks found some way to load up on some assets to enter the KAT sweepstakes once he's inevitably sick of being in NBA Siberia. Guy can really hoop.


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If we get KAT mass media will have major depression. After we signed LMA major tantrum and meltdown happened :lol:


So what about Rondo and Howard for the Lakers last year? What about them signing Drummond and getting guys like Harrell and Gasol for cheap in the off season?

The double standard for the LAKERS of all teams is kind of crazy.


Yeah the narrative being pushed here is beyond absurd. Trying to paint the Nets as the NBA's version of the NY Yankees is hilarious. The Lakers, Heat, Cavs, Warriors were all getting guys for cheap to bolster their squads. This is nothing new.
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Post#157 » by Paradise » Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:03 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:
GTR11 wrote:
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If we get KAT mass media will have major depression. After we signed LMA major tantrum and meltdown happened :lol:


So what about Rondo and Howard for the Lakers last year? What about them signing Drummond and getting guys like Harrell and Gasol for cheap in the off season?

The double standard for the LAKERS of all teams is kind of crazy.


Yeah the narrative being pushed here is beyond absurd. Trying to paint the Nets as the NBA's version of the NY Yankees is hilarious. The Lakers, Heat, Cavs, Warriors were all getting guys for cheap to bolster their squads. This is nothing new.

Remember the whole “Kirilenko took money under the table” back in 2013? Lol

That was so stereotypical and pathetic but it didn’t stop actual teams and fans from asking for an investigation.
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Post#158 » by Hello Brooklyn » Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:12 pm

Its absurd to blame Nash when the guys just get disengaged and make stupid mistakes at the end of games.

If were up 10 with 2 minutes left, Nash has done his job.

These guys should be able to close the damn game.
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Post#159 » by Prokorov » Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:57 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Its absurd to blame Nash when the guys just get disengaged and make stupid mistakes at the end of games.

If were up 10 with 2 minutes left, Nash has done his job.

These guys should be able to close the damn game.


I dont know. if were up 10 with 2 minutes to go did nash do his job or did Harden dropping a 40 point triple double do his job?

I'd argue the last 2 minutes you do more coaching then the first 46. Thats when your playing situational basketball. when your running subs in and out. when your deciding to foul or not. when you need to anticipate nad react to inbounds plays on both ends of the floor. when you need to mitigate foul trouble. when you need to draw up plays to get a key bucket.

Its not all nash. its probably not even 50% nash. but its impactful. like 25-30%. its big enough to the point where in a close game, his decisions can cost us... and have costed us.

Again, in a 1 or 2 possesion game, when we are ahead, have times outs, are on defense, and need a stop why is he not running in his best defenders? we know they understand the concept because they run in their best offensive guys for 1 play at the end of every quarter.
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