ImageImageImageImageImage

2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2

Moderators: Deeeez Knicks, dakomish23, mpharris36, j4remi, NoLayupRule, GONYK, Jeff Van Gully, HerSports85

jvsimonetti0514
General Manager
Posts: 9,829
And1: 10,064
Joined: Dec 22, 2015
     

Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1201 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:33 pm










A guy we should take a look at if we stay in the 20’s. Pretty good cutter, shooter, playmakers, and creates turnovers but I’m not sure he’s an nba athlete but seems pretty solid.
I'm apart of a Knicks podcast! You Should check it out!
youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWW9GUVpNULS97PyptXXU4w
Nbabrothers
Senior
Posts: 719
And1: 203
Joined: Sep 17, 2019
 

Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1202 » by Nbabrothers » Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:33 pm

I don’t really follow college but of course I know who Cade Cunningham is.
My questions are:
Which are our areas of weakness?
I say point guard and small forward.

Who do we draft and have a realistic chance of getting to fill those areas of weakness?
User avatar
Dave DaButcher
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,698
And1: 4,301
Joined: May 16, 2017
     

Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1203 » by Dave DaButcher » Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:51 pm

Anyone else get big Bill Wennington vibes from Drew Timme?
User avatar
mpharris36
Forum Mod - Knicks
Forum Mod - Knicks
Posts: 113,370
And1: 117,730
Joined: Nov 03, 2010
     

Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1204 » by mpharris36 » Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:56 pm

Suggs is really good
4-Peat! 22-25 BAF Champion Spurs:

ROSTER

Walker Kessler/Daniel Gafford/Adem Bona
Nikola Jokic/Santi Aldama/Isaiah Stewart
Aaron Nesmith/Josh Hart/Jaime Jaquez
Alex Caruso/Keon Ellis/Justin Champagnie
Steph Curry/Chris Paul/Ryan Rollins
User avatar
El Poochio
RealGM
Posts: 35,275
And1: 25,135
Joined: May 19, 2015
Location: Where The Wild Things Are
         

Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1205 » by El Poochio » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:03 am

Isnt it too obvious Gonzaga gonna win it all
Image

B: Melo | FVV | Rozier
B: J. Green | Donte | N. Clifford
B: Herb | K. Oubre | B. Hield
B: Zion | G. Yabusele | D. Jones Jr
B: KP | J. Huff
User avatar
knickstape4ever
Head Coach
Posts: 7,083
And1: 7,166
Joined: Jul 09, 2014
   

Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1206 » by knickstape4ever » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:09 am

mpharris36 wrote:Suggs is really good


too bad he and 2-3 of the other top 5 prospects will end up elsewhere in the East
Image
User avatar
ibraheim718
RealGM
Posts: 41,817
And1: 15,317
Joined: Jul 01, 2010

Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1207 » by ibraheim718 » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:11 am

mpharris36 wrote:Suggs is really good


He's tough.. holds his ground against bigger players on D.. hunts blocks steals and rebounds. Elite court vision.. throws great bounce passes.. his anticipation radar is off the charts... great hands.. great free throw shooter.. solid form.. going to be a great shooter from deep. A +++ defender on the ball and off of it. Rarely makes mistakes.. for someone with his talent he also rarely takes bad shots. Best point guard prospect I've seen since Chris Paul at Wake Forest. His ONLY weakness is will he get banged up a lot because he doesn't back down from any aspect of the game.. BUT he's a football player so you know he's not going to have an issue playing 100 when he's banged up.
User avatar
ibraheim718
RealGM
Posts: 41,817
And1: 15,317
Joined: Jul 01, 2010

Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1208 » by ibraheim718 » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:14 am

El Poochio wrote:Isnt it too obvious Gonzaga gonna win it all


There are problems lurking. But the synergy they play with is up there all time. UNLV had a lot of it.. that Duke team that beat them had a lot of it. A couple of those Kentucky teams and Pierce's Kansas team also played with a ton of synergy as well.
YouthMovement
General Manager
Posts: 9,146
And1: 5,122
Joined: Jun 27, 2009
Contact:
     

Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1209 » by YouthMovement » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:32 am

3toheadmelo wrote:Nice to see the Davion Mitchell bandwagon growing. was alone there until recently


he is a future star imo. i think he shoots up boards after workouts etc
User avatar
El Poochio
RealGM
Posts: 35,275
And1: 25,135
Joined: May 19, 2015
Location: Where The Wild Things Are
         

Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1210 » by El Poochio » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:35 am

Moody = Knox

Mitchell = DSJ (remember how DSJ looked in college)??
Image

B: Melo | FVV | Rozier
B: J. Green | Donte | N. Clifford
B: Herb | K. Oubre | B. Hield
B: Zion | G. Yabusele | D. Jones Jr
B: KP | J. Huff
User avatar
El Poochio
RealGM
Posts: 35,275
And1: 25,135
Joined: May 19, 2015
Location: Where The Wild Things Are
         

Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1211 » by El Poochio » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:37 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:Suggs is really good


He's tough.. holds his ground against bigger players on D.. hunts blocks steals and rebounds. Elite court vision.. throws great bounce passes.. his anticipation radar is off the charts... great hands.. great free throw shooter.. solid form.. going to be a great shooter from deep. A +++ defender on the ball and off of it. Rarely makes mistakes.. for someone with his talent he also rarely takes bad shots. Best point guard prospect I've seen since Chris Paul at Wake Forest. His ONLY weakness is will he get banged up a lot because he doesn't back down from any aspect of the game.. BUT he's a football player so you know he's not going to have an issue playing 100 when he's banged up.


Does that mean you like Suggs more than Cade??
Image

B: Melo | FVV | Rozier
B: J. Green | Donte | N. Clifford
B: Herb | K. Oubre | B. Hield
B: Zion | G. Yabusele | D. Jones Jr
B: KP | J. Huff
User avatar
ibraheim718
RealGM
Posts: 41,817
And1: 15,317
Joined: Jul 01, 2010

Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1212 » by ibraheim718 » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:55 am

El Poochio wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:Suggs is really good


He's tough.. holds his ground against bigger players on D.. hunts blocks steals and rebounds. Elite court vision.. throws great bounce passes.. his anticipation radar is off the charts... great hands.. great free throw shooter.. solid form.. going to be a great shooter from deep. A +++ defender on the ball and off of it. Rarely makes mistakes.. for someone with his talent he also rarely takes bad shots. Best point guard prospect I've seen since Chris Paul at Wake Forest. His ONLY weakness is will he get banged up a lot because he doesn't back down from any aspect of the game.. BUT he's a football player so you know he's not going to have an issue playing 100 when he's banged up.


Does that mean you like Suggs more than Cade??


When we first started talking about the draft I said I could see Cade dropping. I project Suggs to be a better pro.

Cade shows cracks in his armor in the tournament.. he had a lot of trouble splitting defenders and getting into seams. Teams got away with double teaming Cade. You try and double Suggs and you're going to get picked apart with minimal effort.

CP3 was a bulldog on D in college also but if you watch Suggs play a lot he is one of the only guards I've seen affect the game from a shot blocking standpoint. He so eager to hunt blocks especially on bigger players coming from the weak side that they think twice about it. I've never seen that. He's going to get a couple of blocks a game in his prime.

Now before the hate-me brigade comes in chirping all their garbage.. Curry had the mid-major cloud hanging over his head when he was coming out of college.. and Kyrie had durability and weight issues going into Duke.

The best college point guards I've seen were Kidd, Anderson, Paul, and this kid.
User avatar
Guano
RealGM
Posts: 39,694
And1: 67,101
Joined: Dec 16, 2010
Location: any port

Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1213 » by Guano » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:56 am

Guano wrote:this ucla/bama game is so damn good



:nonono:
Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.
User avatar
ibraheim718
RealGM
Posts: 41,817
And1: 15,317
Joined: Jul 01, 2010

Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1214 » by ibraheim718 » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:57 am

You can't play a zone against this team man.
HarthorneWingo
RealGM
Posts: 97,546
And1: 62,686
Joined: May 16, 2005

Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1215 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:59 am

Corey Kispert is going to be the National College Player of the Year?

Never heard of the guy. I guess we'll be drafting him next.
User avatar
ibraheim718
RealGM
Posts: 41,817
And1: 15,317
Joined: Jul 01, 2010

Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1216 » by ibraheim718 » Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:00 am

YouthMovement wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Nice to see the Davion Mitchell bandwagon growing. was alone there until recently


he is a future star imo. i think he shoots up boards after workouts etc


The only issue I see is his age. There is a lot of stigma with players being that old coming out of college. But he could really help a team trying to get over the hump. Like if the Celtics were to draft him.
User avatar
2010
RealGM
Posts: 37,630
And1: 42,880
Joined: Jul 24, 2008
       

Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1217 » by 2010 » Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:04 am

El Poochio wrote:Moody = Knox

Mitchell = DSJ (remember how DSJ looked in college)??


Mitchell can actually shoot and dribble.
Image

2024 & 2025 Bubble Champions (Repeat)

1: White | Nembhard | Smart
2: Sharpe | Wallace | Clark
3: Thompson | Dort | Rupert
4: Wembanyama | Green | Bol
5: Gobert | Drummond | Mamukelashvili
User avatar
Guano
RealGM
Posts: 39,694
And1: 67,101
Joined: Dec 16, 2010
Location: any port

Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1218 » by Guano » Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:09 am

El Poochio wrote:Moody = Knox

Mitchell = DSJ (remember how DSJ looked in college)??



DSj wasn't earning the name "off night" in college for locking people up like Mitchell
Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.
User avatar
ibraheim718
RealGM
Posts: 41,817
And1: 15,317
Joined: Jul 01, 2010

Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1219 » by ibraheim718 » Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:14 am

The handle can get a little tighter and working on the left hand also. But he's 18.
User avatar
El Poochio
RealGM
Posts: 35,275
And1: 25,135
Joined: May 19, 2015
Location: Where The Wild Things Are
         

Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1220 » by El Poochio » Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:26 am

ibraheim718 wrote:You can't play a zone against this team man.


Knicks taking notes..
Image

B: Melo | FVV | Rozier
B: J. Green | Donte | N. Clifford
B: Herb | K. Oubre | B. Hield
B: Zion | G. Yabusele | D. Jones Jr
B: KP | J. Huff

Return to New York Knicks