2021 SPURS TRADE DEADLINE THREAD

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A little disappointed that we got absolutely nothing for 5 expiring contracts.

I think we completely dropped the ball on Aldridge. Who announces 2 weeks before the deadline that we are parting ways with him? That dropped whatever trade value, no matter how small it was, into the toilet. Everyone is saying it was mutual which is fine, but the only person it worked out for was Aldridge.

Maybe that will attract a free agent down the line, who knows? At least players might remember that we don't trade people just to make trades like the rest of the league.

We got Chriss for basically nothing. Maybe he and Murray can push each other.

I still dont think we are a playoff team. We might be able to hold on to that 9th or 10th spot just because the other teams fighting for it are soo bad. I'm just hoping we keep giving the younger guys minutes.

Based on LMA's age and how his play has suffered dur to father time, what were the true odds, that a team were willing to trade assets to acquire him. Let's say you're a GM of team X for example. Please keep an unbias thought when I ask this question.

Based on how LMA has played this season, his age, and his worth, would you be willing to trade value to acquire him to play for your team or would you be willing to take your chances in the buyout?

Danny Ainge or Pat Riley might have given something. They were both inquiring. But when we announced that we were parting ways 2 weeks before the deadline there was no way, if I was another gm, that I would offer the Spurs anything when I know I can get him for nothing.

I really didn't expect us to get much of anything if we did trade him. I don't over value our players like most people do. But it just seems like we didnt even try. All we had to do was shut up about it for 2 weeks then buy him out.

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A little disappointed that we got absolutely nothing for 5 expiring contracts.

I think we completely dropped the ball on Aldridge. Who announces 2 weeks before the deadline that we are parting ways with him? That dropped whatever trade value, no matter how small it was, into the toilet. Everyone is saying it was mutual which is fine, but the only person it worked out for was Aldridge.

Maybe that will attract a free agent down the line, who knows? At least players might remember that we don't trade people just to make trades like the rest of the league.

We got Chriss for basically nothing. Maybe he and Murray can push each other.

I still dont think we are a playoff team. We might be able to hold on to that 9th or 10th spot just because the other teams fighting for it are soo bad. I'm just hoping we keep giving the younger guys minutes.

Based on LMA's age and how his play has suffered dur to father time, what were the true odds, that a team were willing to trade assets to acquire him. Let's say you're a GM of team X for example. Please keep an unbias thought when I ask this question.

Based on how LMA has played this season, his age, and his worth, would you be willing to trade value to acquire him to play for your team or would you be willing to take your chances in the buyout?

We were looking at offers for LMA at last season's trade deadline, and again during this off-season just before the draft. And again before this trade deadline. I think we have a great idea as to what the lay of the land is in terms of offers.

The changed contexts over the summer were LMA's shoulder surgery recovery and its impact on his game, as well as our changed style of play which reduced our dependence on him.

We know there were also a handful of teams interested at this trade deadline. It's always a speculation game when fans don't know the trade offers to properly judge the merits of a potential trade, or in this case, in comparison to a buyout.

What we do know is that PATFO sought to preserve the 2021 cap space in any potential deal unless, it stands to reason, we got back a player we would have used that cap space on anyway which was not likely without giving up some other assets of our own given how LMA had played this season.

So like other players who were on the move, the team and LMA made a formal announcement to part ways. That it was done amicably is important, and that it was done at all as opposed to keeping things close to the vest as we usually do indicates to me that we weren't going to trade LMA for whatever was offered previously. We've been fielding offers for about a year now. I don't see how a couple of weeks of secrecy would have made some great difference. The biggest factor was LMA's play relative to his salary.

We know Ainge doesn't do trades unless he feels he's gouged the other GM, and we know the Heat were sending strong public signals of being interested in LMA. Well when you don't offer what a team seeks in a trade you risk losing the player. All those sweet not so subtle overtures were for naught as it turns out KD was in LMA's ear.

The buyout combined with money we made from the Chriss deal (specifically cash considerations and then releasing him) allowed us to sign Dieng, an excellent fit and upgrade at 3&D.

It makes no sense to be sure about ought to have's when we don't know the deals coming back. What we do know is Heat over played their hand, we didn't compromise our cap space, saved money, and upgraded a position of need. Sounds like some stealth maneuverings to me, and full credit for them.

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A little disappointed that we got absolutely nothing for 5 expiring contracts.

I think we completely dropped the ball on Aldridge. Who announces 2 weeks before the deadline that we are parting ways with him? That dropped whatever trade value, no matter how small it was, into the toilet. Everyone is saying it was mutual which is fine, but the only person it worked out for was Aldridge.

Maybe that will attract a free agent down the line, who knows? At least players might remember that we don't trade people just to make trades like the rest of the league.

We got Chriss for basically nothing. Maybe he and Murray can push each other.

I still dont think we are a playoff team. We might be able to hold on to that 9th or 10th spot just because the other teams fighting for it are soo bad. I'm just hoping we keep giving the younger guys minutes.

Based on LMA's age and how his play has suffered dur to father time, what were the true odds, that a team were willing to trade assets to acquire him. Let's say you're a GM of team X for example. Please keep an unbias thought when I ask this question.

Based on how LMA has played this season, his age, and his worth, would you be willing to trade value to acquire him to play for your team or would you be willing to take your chances in the buyout?

Danny Ainge or Pat Riley might have given something. They were both inquiring. But when we announced that we were parting ways 2 weeks before the deadline there was no way, if I was another gm, that I would offer the Spurs anything when I know I can get him for nothing.

I really didn't expect us to get much of anything if we did trade him. I don't over value our players like most people do. But it just seems like we didn't even try. All we had to do was shut up about it for 2 weeks then buy him out.

Maybe that's the conclusion the Spurs came to when it came down to LMA's value on the market. Based on how he played this year. Certain players were destined to be buyout candidates. Look at Andre Drummond. His style of play is obsolete in today's octane NBA. Plus look at the value it took to acquire him last season when the Pistons traded him to the Cavaliers. Blake Griffin is another for the obvious reasons.

Ainge is something of a collector of assets. He's one of those types that like to collect his shiny toys by trading low bargains for high bargains. One of the reasons why other teams hesitate dealing with him.

To the Heat, I don't know what deal they field out to try to acquire LMA. I recalled Okpala being in the mix of the deal. For the Spurs, maybe it was not good enough deal from the Heat to have LMA. Hence how they both had the agreement to part ways mutually.

Right now though, the Spurs made it out the deadline straight. They found an opportunity in Gorgui Dieng to fit the Spurs objective. They will be sitting on cap room coming up in the offseason. That's another opportunity for them to get after another player or two to help improve their team to get better for both present and future standing.