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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1281 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:40 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:Davion Mitchell got moved up to #12 by ESPN DX

was hoping we'd be able to target him w/ the Mavs pick. he seriously reminds me of a less athletic, poor man's Donovan Mitchell

w/ Moody falling to #21 on their board, and potentially falling that could be good for us. grab him w/ the Mavs pick if so. still confident in his 3PT shooting and his defense and I'll bank on his improvement since he's one of the youngest prospects in the draft

they also have Bouknight at #18. that's one of my primary targets. I don't love taking older players (21), but he's the 3-level shot creator we need IMO

Davion legit. DX seeing the vision

On the bright side if Bouknight drops to us, take him and run. He is a lottery talent.
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1282 » by Fat » Thu Apr 1, 2021 1:07 am

Mitchell or cooper who’d you take if there both still on board.
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1283 » by knickstape4ever » Thu Apr 1, 2021 2:44 am

Angryfatboy wrote:Mitchell or cooper who’d you take if there both still on board.


Mitchell

Cooper is so pint-size and not a good shooter. tough combo
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Post#1284 » by Fat » Thu Apr 1, 2021 2:48 am

knickstape4ever wrote:
Angryfatboy wrote:Mitchell or cooper who’d you take if there both still on board.


Mitchell

Cooper is so pint-size and not a good shooter. tough combo


I agree

How about Mitchell vs Butler?
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Post#1285 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Apr 1, 2021 2:51 am

Angryfatboy wrote:Mitchell or cooper who’d you take if there both still on board.

Mitchell by a long shot. Cooper is probably the only player I wouldn’t take with any pick. He’s too small and can’t really shoot
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1286 » by knickstape4ever » Thu Apr 1, 2021 2:51 am

Angryfatboy wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
Angryfatboy wrote:Mitchell or cooper who’d you take if there both still on board.


Mitchell

Cooper is so pint-size and not a good shooter. tough combo


I agree

How about Mitchell vs Butler?


Mitchell b/c Butler is similar to what we already have in IQ

I'm a really big Butler fan tho
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

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Post#1288 » by Manhattan Project » Thu Apr 1, 2021 5:19 pm

When the season is all said and done, it'll be interesting to see if the Knicks show any interest in Bassey, could potentially replace Robinson if the Knicks don't want to pay him going forward. Bassey really improved his overall game this year and could be a seamless transition.
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1289 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Apr 1, 2021 5:25 pm

Manhattan Project wrote:When the season is all said and done, it'll be interesting to see if the Knicks show any interest in Bassey, could potentially replace Robinson if the Knicks don't want to pay him going forward. Bassey really improved his overall game this year and could be a seamless transition.

Yeah, I’ve brought that up recently. Bassey can pretty much do everything Mitch can on defense and he has some upside on the offensive end. Wonder if the Knicks are looking at him with Mitch’s injury
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1290 » by 2010 » Thu Apr 1, 2021 5:42 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:Davion Mitchell got moved up to #12 by ESPN DX

was hoping we'd be able to target him w/ the Mavs pick. he seriously reminds me of a less athletic, poor man's Donovan Mitchell

w/ Moody falling to #21 on their board, and potentially falling that could be good for us. grab him w/ the Mavs pick if so. still confident in his 3PT shooting and his defense and I'll bank on his improvement since he's one of the youngest prospects in the draft.

they also have Bouknight at #18. that's one of my primary targets. I don't love taking older players (21), but he's the 3-level shot creator we need IMO

Davion legit. DX seeing the vision

On the bright side if Bouknight drops to us, take him and run. He is a lottery talent.


Realistically I can’t see Bouknight dropping that far.
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Post#1291 » by 2010 » Thu Apr 1, 2021 5:43 pm

Angryfatboy wrote:Mitchell or cooper who’d you take if there both still on board.


Mitchell easily. Better shooter and defender.
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Post#1292 » by 2010 » Thu Apr 1, 2021 5:46 pm

Angryfatboy wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
Angryfatboy wrote:Mitchell or cooper who’d you take if there both still on board.


Mitchell

Cooper is so pint-size and not a good shooter. tough combo


I agree

How about Mitchell vs Butler?


Mitchell. More dynamic. More of a 3 level scorer. Better defender. Quicker and stronger. Butler is probably the better shooter and better at FTs but I still go Mitchell. My only concern with Mitchell is size. He don’t seem a legit 6’2”
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1293 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Apr 1, 2021 6:48 pm

2010 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:Davion Mitchell got moved up to #12 by ESPN DX

was hoping we'd be able to target him w/ the Mavs pick. he seriously reminds me of a less athletic, poor man's Donovan Mitchell

w/ Moody falling to #21 on their board, and potentially falling that could be good for us. grab him w/ the Mavs pick if so. still confident in his 3PT shooting and his defense and I'll bank on his improvement since he's one of the youngest prospects in the draft.

they also have Bouknight at #18. that's one of my primary targets. I don't love taking older players (21), but he's the 3-level shot creator we need IMO

Davion legit. DX seeing the vision

On the bright side if Bouknight drops to us, take him and run. He is a lottery talent.


Realistically I can’t see Bouknight dropping that far.

All I know is that I am taking Bouknight if he does drop to us
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1294 » by knickstape4ever » Thu Apr 1, 2021 6:54 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
2010 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Davion legit. DX seeing the vision

On the bright side if Bouknight drops to us, take him and run. He is a lottery talent.


Realistically I can’t see Bouknight dropping that far.

All I know is that I am taking Bouknight if he does drop to us


Read on Twitter


looks like analysts are cooling on him, so there might be a chance. ESPN dropped him to #18 too

hoping we can land him. 3-level scorer who has some star potential IMO
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Post#1295 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Apr 1, 2021 7:07 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
2010 wrote:
Realistically I can’t see Bouknight dropping that far.

All I know is that I am taking Bouknight if he does drop to us


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looks like analysts are cooling on him, so there might be a chance. ESPN dropped him to #18 too

hoping we can land him. 3-level scorer who has some star potential IMO

Good

Not sure what Wasserman is talking about that he's not a playmaker. I remember in the game against Villanova he was making a bunch of good passes when his shot wasn't falling. Wasserman tries too hard to look smart. I think he had Hayes #1 or 2 last year on his big board and was also really high on Onyeka
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1296 » by knickstape4ever » Thu Apr 1, 2021 7:10 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:All I know is that I am taking Bouknight if he does drop to us


Read on Twitter


looks like analysts are cooling on him, so there might be a chance. ESPN dropped him to #18 too

hoping we can land him. 3-level scorer who has some star potential IMO

Good

Not sure what Wasserman is talking about that he's not a playmaker. I remember in the game against Villanova he was making a bunch of good passes when his shot wasn't falling. Wasserman tries too hard to look smart. I think he had Hayes #1 or 2 last year on his big board and was also really high on Onyeka


I don't really have concerns w/ Bouknight's playmaking either. even if he is a below-avg playmaker, his value is his scoring versatility which is what we need

pretty sure Wasserman was also low on Hali last yr
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1297 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Apr 1, 2021 7:12 pm

2010 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
2010 wrote:
How is that flip flopping? I would steer far far clear of Nix with a lottery pick. But for a 2nd round pick with our Detroit slot it’s worth taking a flyer on cuz he could be the best floor general available there if Giddy and Cooper are gone.

Mitchell, you know I still have concerns about his size. I can’t wait to see his measurements. But I have been sold on how much of a dog he is, how he competes defensively, and his shotmaking ability at all 3 levels. I just hope he is a legit 6’2” and can function as a full-time PG. Especially at his age.

Kuminga, I still think he is a 5th/6th pick. He is the worst out of the top tier guys. I don’t think that’s a wild assessment of all. Cade, Mobley, Suggs, and Green are all better than him. And I wouldn’t be surprised if one other darkhorse player creeps into the top 5 ahead of him either. He didn’t dominate the G League tourney, that’s for sure.

You playing both sides so you can’t say you were wrong on them. :lol:


Nah, you just want me to call players either a star or a complete bust with no in-between.

Ok cool, since you wanna act like Moses Moody is the next Morris Almond, I’ll have at it as well some some bust comps.

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• Your mans Obi Toppin is the next Hakim Warrick :lol:


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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1298 » by 2010 » Thu Apr 1, 2021 7:22 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:All I know is that I am taking Bouknight if he does drop to us


Read on Twitter


looks like analysts are cooling on him, so there might be a chance. ESPN dropped him to #18 too

hoping we can land him. 3-level scorer who has some star potential IMO

Good

Not sure what Wasserman is talking about that he's not a playmaker. I remember in the game against Villanova he was making a bunch of good passes when his shot wasn't falling. Wasserman tries too hard to look smart. I think he had Hayes #1 or 2 last year on his big board and was also really high on Onyeka


Oh NOOOWWWW you can comprehend the rationale of “good” when a player’s stock falls in the eyes of the nerds, giving us a better chance of the player falling in our laps.

But you couldn’t understand the logic in that with Moody though. This nih! :lol:
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1299 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Apr 1, 2021 8:24 pm

2010 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
Read on Twitter


looks like analysts are cooling on him, so there might be a chance. ESPN dropped him to #18 too

hoping we can land him. 3-level scorer who has some star potential IMO

Good

Not sure what Wasserman is talking about that he's not a playmaker. I remember in the game against Villanova he was making a bunch of good passes when his shot wasn't falling. Wasserman tries too hard to look smart. I think he had Hayes #1 or 2 last year on his big board and was also really high on Onyeka


Oh NOOOWWWW you can comprehend the rationale of “good” when a player’s stock falls in the eyes of the nerds, giving us a better chance of the player falling in our laps.

But you couldn’t understand the logic in that with Moody though. This nih! :lol:

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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1300 » by 8516knicks » Thu Apr 1, 2021 9:09 pm

Took a look at the standings after the MN loss and looks like with the DAL and our own picks we're somewhere around 18 & 22. So now figuring we can't bundle them to move much higher - maybe 14/15? it might make more sense to bundle them in a trade offer for a Beale, etc. though I imagine we'd also have to give up IQ or RJ and maybe even another year's first. It would have been nicer to get two/three decent picks in this year's draft but we're winning to much to move higher either by losing or by trading. A bit bummed we can't build from within more.

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