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Post#421 » by RookieStar » Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:29 pm

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zaymon wrote:I dont know if its possible to play him at the 4 this year. Not at 270 lbs. Vucevic weights 260.
Not like we have to worry about winning anyway. So might as well take a look at it.

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Im all for it. As long as it doesn't shake his confidence when opposing PFs just drive or blow by around him.
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Post#422 » by PrimeThyme » Fri Apr 2, 2021 2:52 am

I ate my crow for Okeke, but now I'm going to dish some out for WCJ. I got some heat for saying that he was already a walking Double Double when the trade happened but you saw tonight what he can do with 30 plus minutes. As he develops the 3pt shot and continues to grow confidence offensively, he's only going to keep getting better.

I called him Al Horford when the trade happened, && I'm only feeling more confident in my prediction now. He was not just some bust throw-in, he is already a quality NBA starting-level player with upside.

This trade to me is still aging like a fine wine. I really liked it when it happened, && I'm slowly starting to love it.
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Post#423 » by MagicStarwipe » Fri Apr 2, 2021 4:13 am

If WCJ just stays at his current level (not 20/10, but just good solid winning basketball on both ends) and the two picks end up as decent lottery picks then this trade was a home run.
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Post#424 » by drsd » Fri Apr 2, 2021 3:09 pm

Vučević has still not won a game as a Bull.
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Post#425 » by uraverage » Fri Apr 2, 2021 3:31 pm

drsd wrote:Vučević has still not won a game as a Bull.



And now their other star is injured. Things that make you go hmmm... I'm not blaming Vuc, but strange coincidence. :D
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Post#426 » by RookieStar » Fri Apr 2, 2021 10:27 pm

LOL Are we really claiming V is our Trojan Horse? Come to sabotage other teams?
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Post#427 » by zaymon » Sat Apr 3, 2021 9:09 am

I was a big fan of Carter over Bamba coming into the draft. Now Clifford can end the dispute.
My money is on Banchero going number 1 !
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Post#428 » by basketballRob » Sat Apr 3, 2021 11:29 am

zaymon wrote:I was a big fan of Carter over Bamba coming into the draft. Now Clifford can end the dispute.
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Post#429 » by bigdogdylan5 » Sat Apr 3, 2021 1:11 pm

drsd wrote:Vučević has still not won a game as a Bull.

I am so conflicted because I want that pick to be good but also terrified that it won’t convey
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I am high on Markelle Fultz. Yes I understand he is not perfect and needs to shoot more and better and turn the ball over less. I would really like to see him play one more year… and I did and he sucks time to move on.
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Post#430 » by basketballRob » Sat Apr 3, 2021 1:30 pm

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drsd wrote:Vučević has still not won a game as a Bull.

I am so conflicted because I want that pick to be good but also terrified that it won’t convey
They are 8th now and have around a 26% chance of getting a top 4 pick. I'd take those odds.



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Post#431 » by DroseReturnChi » Sun Apr 4, 2021 12:58 pm

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drsd wrote:Vučević has still not won a game as a Bull.

I am so conflicted because I want that pick to be good but also terrified that it won’t convey


dont worry you will get the 5th-10th bc AK already all ined.
If he does stupid stuff like tanking, he will get fired with BD so Bulls wont be bad as worst but competitive to become bottom 10.
His stupidity will cost a top 5 pick in 2023 is what I really fear. Protection was way too loose.
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Post#432 » by cedric76 » Sun Apr 4, 2021 3:58 pm

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bigdogdylan5 wrote:
drsd wrote:Vučević has still not won a game as a Bull.

I am so conflicted because I want that pick to be good but also terrified that it won’t convey


dont worry you will get the 5th-10th bc AK already all ined.
If he does stupid stuff like tanking, he will get fired with BD so Bulls wont be bad as worst but competitive to become bottom 10.
His stupidity will cost a top 5 pick in 2023 is what I really fear. Protection was way too loose.


Someone doesn't understand how lottery work
Draft Carter
Sign monk
Trade Cole for a forward
Let chuma+fultz go
Offer Harris and goga a 1+1 deal

unleash Jett next seaon

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Post#433 » by Cabbage bulls » Wed Apr 7, 2021 7:45 pm

PrimeThyme wrote:I ate my crow for Okeke, but now I'm going to dish some out for WCJ. I got some heat for saying that he was already a walking Double Double when the trade happened but you saw tonight what he can do with 30 plus minutes. As he develops the 3pt shot and continues to grow confidence offensively, he's only going to keep getting better.

I called him Al Horford when the trade happened, && I'm only feeling more confident in my prediction now. He was not just some bust throw-in, he is already a quality NBA starting-level player with upside.

This trade to me is still aging like a fine wine. I really liked it when it happened, && I'm slowly starting to love it.

You will be sorely disappointed if you are expecting Al Horford. WCJ isn't even a dollar store Al Horford.
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Post#434 » by OrlMagic05 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 8:02 pm

Cabbage bulls wrote:
PrimeThyme wrote:I ate my crow for Okeke, but now I'm going to dish some out for WCJ. I got some heat for saying that he was already a walking Double Double when the trade happened but you saw tonight what he can do with 30 plus minutes. As he develops the 3pt shot and continues to grow confidence offensively, he's only going to keep getting better.

I called him Al Horford when the trade happened, && I'm only feeling more confident in my prediction now. He was not just some bust throw-in, he is already a quality NBA starting-level player with upside.

This trade to me is still aging like a fine wine. I really liked it when it happened, && I'm slowly starting to love it.

You will be sorely disappointed if you are expecting Al Horford. WCJ isn't even a dollar store Al Horford.


15ppg 10reb 1.4blks with a 28PER isnt too shabby so far..
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Post#435 » by Bakomagic » Wed Apr 7, 2021 8:07 pm

Magic fans are only looking for a Center that is solid on both ends and is not overpaid to be that.

WCjr seems to fit the Bill for now. Bulls fans make WCjr seem like Bismack Biyombo on Offense and Vuc on Defense.
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Post#436 » by drsd » Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:48 am

Question: if the Bulls pick fails to convey this year, does the 2023 FRP shift to 2024?
I assume yes as a team cannot trade consecutive FRPs.
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Post#437 » by Knightro » Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:54 pm

drsd wrote:Question: if the Bulls pick fails to convey this year, does the 2023 FRP shift to 2024?
I assume yes as a team cannot trade consecutive FRPs.


For trade purposes, I believe the answer is yes. That top 4 protected 2023 1st would shift to top 3 protected 2024 1st because the Bulls are not legally allowed to owe to consecutive 1st rounders.

However...

From a practical standpoint, that 2023 top 4 protected 1st would still be on the table for the Magic because there is the faint possibility that the 2022 Bulls 1st could become a pair of 2nd rounders. If that happened and both the 2021 and 2022 picks didn't convey to Orlando in the first round, then I believe (but not positive) that the 2024 pick would actually shift back to a 2023 pick.

I could be wrong on that, but I believe that would be the case since we'd know where the Bulls 2022 pick was going to land well before the draft, by lotto night at the latest.
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Post#438 » by Skin » Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:04 pm

After seeing the way WCj and Bamba compliment each other, this trade has been everything anyone could've asked for. That pick is coming to us this year!!!!!!!!!
Jett Howard, Franz Wagner, Paolo Banchero, Jonathan Isaac, Wendell Carter Jr
Anthony Black, Cole Anthony, Jalen Suggs, Joe Ingles, Chuma Okeke, Mo Wagner, Goga Bitadze LESSSGOOO!!!
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Post#439 » by DiplomaticMagic » Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:38 am

With this trade, WeHam have made two of the top 5 trades in Orlando Magic history. (Vuc and Fultz trades)
STOP PLAYING FULTZ

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