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DickGrayson · Post #261 » by **DickGrayson** » Mon Apr 5, 2021 1:12 am

JRue is worth every dollar if you actually watch him play. He plays both ends on an elite level. Can be a pure PG or switch up as a combo. He shoots high FG%, has a post game. He's really a humble complete PG. Doesn't play for stats or needs high usage to be effective.

Who else Mil is going to sign in the FA better than him? Ya roast them for how much they pay him but its a small market, a guy like Jrue who's in his prime is really the best value they'll get for money.

Bulls looking strong btw and will probably past the Knicks in the standings if they stay healthy. The additions of Vucci man and Theis Theis Baby really strengthens their frontcourt. Nets were struggling to contain the paint and Lavine will feast. Bulls will be a top 3-5 team next season as good as PHI if they keep their core and develop Williams further. Lavine is a great SG and Vucci is the best kind of big he can run with, low usage can score anywhere rebound and pass.

RHODEY · Post #262 » by **RHODEY** » Mon Apr 5, 2021 2:01 am

knickstape4ever wrote:Lonzo w/ 12pts on 4-4 from 3 in his first 8 min back

w/ his shooting improvement, he'd be a great fit w/ RJ and Randle b/c he's the playmaker we need and he can play on or off ball

how much do we think Lonzo gets? I was thinking 4/72M

To pry him from the Pelicans? Atleast 4/80m.

thebuzzardman · Post #263 » by **thebuzzardman** » Mon Apr 5, 2021 2:04 am

DickGrayson wrote:JRue is worth every dollar if you actually watch him play. He plays both ends on an elite level. Can be a pure PG or switch up as a combo. He shoots high FG%, has a post game. He's really a humble complete PG. Doesn't play for stats or needs high usage to be effective.

Who else Mil is going to sign in the FA better than him? Ya roast them for how much they pay him but its a small market, a guy like Jrue who's in his prime is really the best value they'll get for money.

Bulls looking strong btw and will probably past the Knicks in the standings if they stay healthy. The additions of Vucci man and Theis Theis Baby really strengthens their frontcourt. Nets were struggling to contain the paint and Lavine will feast. Bulls will be a top 3-5 team next season as good as PHI if they keep their core and develop Williams further. Lavine is a great SG and Vucci is the best kind of big he can run with, low usage can score anywhere rebound and pass.

Was there a path to resign Brogdan and then use the difference on another good player? If possible, maybe they should have done that.

If not, it's really a matter of capping out with one or the other, then yeah, edge Holiday. But he also cost picks, not like the Bucks picks are great since they'll be good, but it's an all in move then.

RHODEY · Post #264 » by **RHODEY** » Mon Apr 5, 2021 2:15 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:Lonzo w/ 12pts on 4-4 from 3 in his first 8 min back

w/ his shooting improvement, he'd be a great fit w/ RJ and Randle b/c he's the playmaker we need and he can play on or off ball

how much do we think Lonzo gets? I was thinking 4/72M

4/88

Yep you gotta go above 20 per to make sure Peilcans dont match. I would probably do it.

DickGrayson · Post #265 » by **DickGrayson** » Mon Apr 5, 2021 2:17 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
DickGrayson wrote:JRue is worth every dollar if you actually watch him play. He plays both ends on an elite level. Can be a pure PG or switch up as a combo. He shoots high FG%, has a post game. He's really a humble complete PG. Doesn't play for stats or needs high usage to be effective.

Who else Mil is going to sign in the FA better than him? Ya roast them for how much they pay him but its a small market, a guy like Jrue who's in his prime is really the best value they'll get for money.

Bulls looking strong btw and will probably past the Knicks in the standings if they stay healthy. The additions of Vucci man and Theis Theis Baby really strengthens their frontcourt. Nets were struggling to contain the paint and Lavine will feast. Bulls will be a top 3-5 team next season as good as PHI if they keep their core and develop Williams further. Lavine is a great SG and Vucci is the best kind of big he can run with, low usage can score anywhere rebound and pass.

Was there a path to resign Brogdan and then use the difference on another good player? If possible, maybe they should have done that.

If not, it's really a matter of capping out with one or the other, then yeah, edge Holiday. But he also cost picks, not like the Bucks picks are great since they'll be good, but it's an all in move then.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2824568-malcolm-brogdon-on-milwaukee-ive-never-lived-in-a-city-this-segregated

I don't think MB wanted to stay in MIL, even tho Indiana isn't exactly diversity central. Not sure how much leverage the Bucks had on Brogdon but this goes to show where you play matters to certain players. I wouldn't be too excited about MIL myself but Giannis grew up with the organization and he's one of the few guys along with Holiday who will stay there long term. Lopez is aging and Middleton is hella inconsistent in the playoffs so they definitely need another piece to keep up with the Nets imo and not waste Giannis prime. I deeply believe Giannis will play his contract out, get tired of MIL and go to a big market like how LeBron did. The good guys always turn villain.

knickstape4ever · Post #266 » by **knickstape4ever** » Mon Apr 5, 2021 2:25 am

RHODEY wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:Lonzo w/ 12pts on 4-4 from 3 in his first 8 min back

w/ his shooting improvement, he'd be a great fit w/ RJ and Randle b/c he's the playmaker we need and he can play on or off ball

how much do we think Lonzo gets? I was thinking 4/72M

4/88

Yep you gotta go above 20 per to make sure Peilcans dont match. I would probably do it.

I thought I read that the Pelicans don't want to exceed the salary cap

Post #267 » by **HerSports85** » Mon Apr 5, 2021 3:37 am

Read on Twitter

Throw him the bag! Smh only if we would’ve jumped all over trading for him when his value was low and he was on the trading block.

All we do is sit on money and hope for a big name to sign with us only to hand out 1-2 year deals to role players. Cycle never ending.

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #268 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Mon Apr 5, 2021 3:37 am

Whatever Lonzo asks for and gets will be considered too much by half the people that post here, then the same folks will complain when we bring back Payton because there are no PGs on the market.

RHODEY · Post #269 » by **RHODEY** » Mon Apr 5, 2021 3:38 am

knickstape4ever wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
4/88

Yep you gotta go above 20 per to make sure Peilcans dont match. I would probably do it.

I thought I read that the Pelicans don't want to exceed the salary cap

Probably true, but sometimes teams put disinformation out there to fake out other teams. Maybe they are really willing to go above that and offer him a little over the ~18Mill. To circumvent that you gotta call that potential bluff. Bid a little higher than you think they are really willing to pay . That also serves the purpose of keeping competing offers at bay. Although Im not sure who else might be in the running for him ...Chicago?

Dude seems like he is just hitting his stride...

Watch on YouTube

robillionaire · Post #270 » by **robillionaire** » Mon Apr 5, 2021 3:47 am

we probably already ruined our chance to get him. Maybe we can get Lamelo in 6 years

Chanel Bomber · Post #271 » by **Chanel Bomber** » Mon Apr 5, 2021 3:50 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Whatever Lonzo asks for and gets will be considered too much by half the people that post here, then the same folks will complain when we bring back Payton because there are no PGs on the market.

Same movie every year.

People need to accept the fact that good players get overpaid in free agency. You want a good player who's proven? Overpay for him. Name of the game.

Otherwise it's back to the Paytons and the Mudiays of the world.

GEOLINK · Post #272 » by **GEOLINK** » Mon Apr 5, 2021 3:53 am

RHODEY wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
Yep you gotta go above 20 per to make sure Peilcans dont match. I would probably do it.

I thought I read that the Pelicans don't want to exceed the salary cap

Probably true, but sometimes teams put disinformation out there to fake out other teams. Maybe they are really willing to go above that and offer him a little over the ~18Mill. To circumvent that you gotta call that potential bluff. Bid a little higher than you think they are really willing to pay . That also serves the purpose of keeping competing offers at bay. Although Im not sure who else might be in the running for him ...Chicago?

Dude seem like he is just hitting his stride...

Watch on YouTube

Yeah, pay the man.

Guano · Post #273 » by **Guano** » Mon Apr 5, 2021 4:01 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Whatever Lonzo asks for and gets will be considered too much by half the people that post here, then the same folks will complain when we bring back Payton because there are no PGs on the market.

this is one of the rare times where it does not feel good to be seen.

Post #274 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Mon Apr 5, 2021 4:17 am

RHODEY wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:Lonzo w/ 12pts on 4-4 from 3 in his first 8 min back

w/ his shooting improvement, he'd be a great fit w/ RJ and Randle b/c he's the playmaker we need and he can play on or off ball

how much do we think Lonzo gets? I was thinking 4/72M

4/88

Yep you gotta go above 20 per to make sure Peilcans dont match. I would probably do it.

Yea I would do that.

F N 11 · Post #275 » by **F N 11** » Mon Apr 5, 2021 4:24 am

At this point Pelicans matching lol

Should of just gave up a first. Thibs not playing rookies anyway.

RHODEY · Post #276 » by **RHODEY** » Mon Apr 5, 2021 4:52 am

F N 11 wrote:At this point Pelicans matching lol

Should of just gave up a first. Thibs not playing rookies anyway.

They had the chance to extend him and they did not. So now you expect them tomatch whatever teams are willing to pay?

Post #277 » by **Capn'O** » Mon Apr 5, 2021 5:04 am

His release and form are a lot better now. Still not a major threat to get to the cup. I would have tried to get him. He's a really smart player and excellent passer.

Clyde_Style · Post #278 » by **Clyde_Style** » Mon Apr 5, 2021 5:46 am

Capn'O wrote:His release and form are a lot better now. Still not a major threat to get to the cup. I would have tried to get him. He's a really smart player and excellent passer.

What I see with Lonzo is quick decision making. It makes up for the simplicity and lack of razzle dazzle. He's shooting his threes quickly. No hesitation. He flips his passes quickly without telegraphing them. Whether it is a simple rotation pass or a bullet pass, it is done cleanly and effectively.

What we're seeing is experience kicking in. He knows what to do so he doesn't dick around. Payton is literally the opposite of Lonzo :lol:

Lonzo is actually a very good fit with RJ and Randle.

RHODEY · Post #279 » by **RHODEY** » Mon Apr 5, 2021 5:53 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
Capn'O wrote:His release and form are a lot better now. Still not a major threat to get to the cup. I would have tried to get him. He's a really smart player and excellent passer.

What I see with Lonzo is quick decision making. It makes up for the simplicity and lack of razzle dazzle. He's shooting his threes quickly. No hesitation. He flips his passes quickly without telegraphing them. Whether it is a simple rotation pass or a bullet pass, it is done cleanly and effectively.

What we're seeing is experience kicking in. He knows what to do so he doesn't dick around. Payton is literally the opposite of Lonzo

Lonzo is actually a very good fit with RJ and Randle.

Knox and Obi too whle they share the court.

Post #280 » by **Capn'O** » Mon Apr 5, 2021 5:56 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
Capn'O wrote:His release and form are a lot better now. Still not a major threat to get to the cup. I would have tried to get him. He's a really smart player and excellent passer.

What I see with Lonzo is quick decision making. It makes up for the simplicity and lack of razzle dazzle. He's shooting his threes quickly. No hesitation. He flips his passes quickly without telegraphing them. Whether it is a simple rotation pass or a bullet pass, it is done cleanly and effectively.

What we're seeing is experience kicking in. He knows what to do so he doesn't dick around. Payton is literally the opposite of Lonzo

Lonzo is actually a very good fit with RJ and Randle.

I agree. Very in the pocket player. What I am talking about is a physical limitation though. He really struggles to get all the way in and that cap to his north south movement puts a limitation on how good he can be.