If it's based on picks and roster alone that's a very short sighted, narrow view.
Roster building takes time, franchise structures take time, continuity takes time.
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How many franchises would you NOT trade all assets with?
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Yeah thats a pretty good rundown Snakebites. I wonder if people think of SAS like myself and is just so used to them being solid we didnt consider it but yeah I'd rather be where we are then SAS. Indy is close but I think they could liquidate and turn out ok. I actually think Fox is good but thats just me.
Really where we end up in this current lotto will be huge. If we end up with another 7 pick were just screwed. If we get a top 3 it puts us over a few more teams. If we landed a Cade then its more. Say we got really lucky and land Cade/Suggs this season and follow it up with Emoni(if he reclassifys) or Chet on another lucky lotto ball then suddenly we are a team others want to be.
Really where we end up in this current lotto will be huge. If we end up with another 7 pick were just screwed. If we get a top 3 it puts us over a few more teams. If we landed a Cade then its more. Say we got really lucky and land Cade/Suggs this season and follow it up with Emoni(if he reclassifys) or Chet on another lucky lotto ball then suddenly we are a team others want to be.
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Pharaoh wrote:If it's based on picks and roster alone that's a very short sighted, narrow view.
Roster building takes time, franchise structures take time, continuity takes time.
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Then you don't like the premise of the thread.
But that nonetheless is the premise.
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Then I guess I don't like the premise of the thread
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Snakebites wrote:Pharaoh wrote:If it's based on picks and roster alone that's a very short sighted, narrow view.
Roster building takes time, franchise structures take time, continuity takes time.
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Then you don't like the premise of the thread.
But that nonetheless is the premise.
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My updated list:
Washington
They are down a first round pick, and are over the cap. I like Thomas Bryant, but not much else. Yes, Beal could get a haul, but there’s two more years of Westbrook and his contract. I’d take the Pistons situation over that.
Beyond that?
Orlando now has three extra first rounders so I would trade Pistons assets with theirs.
SAC - Fox, Haliburton and others - I would trade
Minny - they’re kind of a crap show, but their top assets are better. It might change after the ping pong balls come out but for now I would trade.
Spurs - to me, toughest one right now - their roster doesn’t scream “awesome” at all, yet they’re a game over .500 in the west? Their players must be good, no? DDR has been outstanding, but if they don’t resign him they would have $55 million to go shopping. It’s another situation that could change with a ping pong ball, but for now I would trade.
Washington
They are down a first round pick, and are over the cap. I like Thomas Bryant, but not much else. Yes, Beal could get a haul, but there’s two more years of Westbrook and his contract. I’d take the Pistons situation over that.
Beyond that?
Orlando now has three extra first rounders so I would trade Pistons assets with theirs.
SAC - Fox, Haliburton and others - I would trade
Minny - they’re kind of a crap show, but their top assets are better. It might change after the ping pong balls come out but for now I would trade.
Spurs - to me, toughest one right now - their roster doesn’t scream “awesome” at all, yet they’re a game over .500 in the west? Their players must be good, no? DDR has been outstanding, but if they don’t resign him they would have $55 million to go shopping. It’s another situation that could change with a ping pong ball, but for now I would trade.
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1-800-not-a-true-fanSnakebites wrote:Pharaoh wrote:If it's based on picks and roster alone that's a very short sighted, narrow view.
Roster building takes time, franchise structures take time, continuity takes time.
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Then you don't like the premise of the thread.
But that nonetheless is the premise.
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Mostly agree and appreciate the detail , except for
GSW: would be a clear "no" for me. GSW has much better assets, but the kind of luxury tax bills they will be facing to even be competitive during Steph's remaining time would sink most franchises -- and definitely the Pistons
SAC: is a clear yes from me. I think Fox and Haliburton are a good young backcourt
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oldncreaky wrote:Spoiler:
Mostly agree and appreciate the detail , except for
GSW: would be a clear "no" for me. GSW has much better assets, but the kind of luxury tax bills they will be facing to even be competitive during Steph's remaining time would sink most franchises -- and definitely the Pistons
SAC: is a clear yes from me. I think Fox and Haliburton are a good young backcourt
Yeah, honestly I just kinda forgot about Haliburton.
The Kings are a yes, though after seeing them yesterday I'm less confident on that, I acknowledge it was just one game.
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Snakebites wrote:oldncreaky wrote:Spoiler:
Mostly agree and appreciate the detail , except for
GSW: would be a clear "no" for me. GSW has much better assets, but the kind of luxury tax bills they will be facing to even be competitive during Steph's remaining time would sink most franchises -- and definitely the Pistons
SAC: is a clear yes from me. I think Fox and Haliburton are a good young backcourt
Yeah, honestly I just kinda forgot about Haliburton.
The Kings are a yes, though after seeing them yesterday I'm less confident on that, I acknowledge it was just one game.
Does not include Ranadive, right? If it does, then helllllll no.
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tmorgan wrote:Snakebites wrote:oldncreaky wrote:Spoiler:
Mostly agree and appreciate the detail , except for
GSW: would be a clear "no" for me. GSW has much better assets, but the kind of luxury tax bills they will be facing to even be competitive during Steph's remaining time would sink most franchises -- and definitely the Pistons
SAC: is a clear yes from me. I think Fox and Haliburton are a good young backcourt
Yeah, honestly I just kinda forgot about Haliburton.
The Kings are a yes, though after seeing them yesterday I'm less confident on that, I acknowledge it was just one game.
Does not include Ranadive, right? If it does, then helllllll no.
Yeah, by the premise of the thread it’s just the players under contract, the picks owned, and any dead money. No coaches/ownership/management.
Ranadive seems more hands off the last few years. I think they’re better off now that Vlade is out.
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oldncreaky wrote:Mostly agree and appreciate the detail , except for
GSW: would be a clear "no" for me. GSW has much better assets, but the kind of luxury tax bills they will be facing to even be competitive during Steph's remaining time would sink most franchises -- and definitely the Pistons
SAC: is a clear yes from me. I think Fox and Haliburton are a good young backcourt
GS is owed a Minnesota first pick in the coming seasons. This year the pick is top 3 protected. If Minnesota gets top 3 then next season the pick is unprotected. That pick is very very valuable to trade or hold along for what could be an Emoni or Chet in the coming seasons as Minnesota is always awful.