payitforward wrote:I'm sure I'm in the minority on this, but I don't have a lot of interest in Brandon Ingram. He's already played 5 years in the league, & so far, in @10,000 minutes on an NBA floor, he has not been all that good.
In his last two seasons, he's become a good scorer -- above average usage & above average TS%. Other than that, he's been just about average overall in every other statistical category.
Don't get me wrong -- that describes a good player! But... it doesn't describe a player I want to give $131m over the next 4 years. Not a chance.
I doubt there's a deal to be made here, but if so it would start with their high pick, Josh Hart, Jaxson Hayes, Kira Lewis, & multiple other picks (including the return of our R2 pick this year). I'd be interested in NA-W, but that's taking a flyer.
All totally fair. The argument for Ingram is that he has steadily improved in many areas since joining the league. There is the obvious - 3pt % and FT %, which are leaps above how he started as a rookie. Then there's his rebounding, which actually improved quite a bit (check by 100 posssesions) until this year, where he regressed to his rookie numbers. Not sure if that's because of Adams or what.
Assists? Improved. Turnover percentage? Gets as little better every year even as usage goes up.
But as you noted, those are all offensive stats. He needs to rebound more and play defensive with more urgency if he wants to be a franchise cornerstone.
So anyone trading for BI is basically getting an NBA2k player with an 85 overall rating, but A+ potential and insane measurables. You're just hoping he keeps that rate of improvement for a few more years and truly steps into the realm of the elite.