Highest pick you'd give for Jalen Brunson?

Moderators: HartfordWhalers, Texas Chuck, BullyKing, Andre Roberstan, loserX, Trader_Joe, Mamba4Goat, pacers33granger, MoneyTalks41890

ThatBoyNick
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,683
And1: 3,629
Joined: Jul 12, 2014
 

Re: Highest pick you'd give for Jalen Brunson? 

Post#21 » by ThatBoyNick » Tue Apr 6, 2021 3:46 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:
ThatBoyNick wrote:What kind of extension is he eligible for?


This could be me being completely wrong, but going to go with it.

This seems correct - Since Dallas signed him using cap space, we will have full bird rights to offer up to his max.

This seems sketch - Also since Dallas signed him using cap space instead of rookie rights, there should be a door for a renegotiate and extend this offseason? Either with Dallas or with a team we trade him.

Not that that is a realistic path, but he seems eligible for a Covington-type contract this offseason.



If he hits free agency, this is correct.

As an extension? He’s eligible for 120% of his current salary, or 120% of the league average salary, whichever is greater (this would be closer to $12m in year one).


If he would theoretically agree to a 3/40 with a P/O I could see a team trading a pick in the low 20s for him, maybe high teens
JD45
General Manager
Posts: 7,998
And1: 263
Joined: Dec 28, 2003

Re: Highest pick you'd give for Jalen Brunson? 

Post#22 » by JD45 » Tue Apr 6, 2021 5:15 pm

Brunson is 24 years old and has a 20 PER now (13 ppg). That may not hold up with greater usage, but still if he were to hit free agency this year, I would expect him to get 20+ mil per year.

I am sure they would trade him for another player with proven production, but for a draft pick I can't see why they would make the trade for a late (or even mid) rounder. The odds of success are too low.
"Government is the great fiction through which everyone endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else"

Frederic Bastiat
LloydFree
RealGM
Posts: 15,840
And1: 11,657
Joined: Aug 20, 2012
Location: Somewhere near the Jersey Turnpike, between exit 4 and 15E

Re: Highest pick you'd give for Jalen Brunson? 

Post#23 » by LloydFree » Tue Apr 6, 2021 5:38 pm

Resistance wrote:Other than Denver (Currently #24) and Philadelphia (#27), there doesn't project to be any late 2021 firsts available in a trade for Brunson.

Denver has Monte morris on a multi year deal, so would expect them to hesitate sending out a first for another backup PG.

No idea on what Philadlephia will decide to do with the trio of Hill, Maxey and Shake.

Jalen Brunson is certainly worth the 76ers' #27 pick, but the 76ers aren't in need of a pure PG. Need SG/secondary ball handler or SF. They won't be able to commit any money to backup PG, as I suspect they'll try to stay under the luxury tax if possible to avoid repeater status.
Fischella wrote:I think none of you guys that are pro-Embiid no how basketball works today.. is way easier to win it all with Omer Asik than Olajuwon.
Actually if you ask me which Center I want for my perfect championship caliber team, I will chose Asik hands down
gswhoops
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 34,784
And1: 6,483
Joined: Apr 27, 2005
   

Re: Highest pick you'd give for Jalen Brunson? 

Post#24 » by gswhoops » Tue Apr 6, 2021 6:10 pm

Still mad that GS took Evans over Brunson, but #13 pick is a bit rich for my taste.
shakes0
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,434
And1: 5,048
Joined: Jul 14, 2017
Location: Chicago
       

Re: Highest pick you'd give for Jalen Brunson? 

Post#25 » by shakes0 » Tue Apr 6, 2021 6:37 pm

I'm a huge Brunson fan, he's from the next town over from me and same town as my wife. Followed him to Nova and watched him all 3 years. Love watching him in Dallas. This year I started calling him JB Smooth. the nickname fits, just watch him play this year.
Pinkyring
RealGM
Posts: 10,280
And1: 6,327
Joined: May 28, 2016

Re: Highest pick you'd give for Jalen Brunson? 

Post#26 » by Pinkyring » Tue Apr 6, 2021 7:18 pm

JD45 wrote:Brunson is 24 years old and has a 20 PER now (13 ppg). That may not hold up with greater usage, but still if he were to hit free agency this year, I would expect him to get 20+ mil per year.

I am sure they would trade him for another player with proven production, but for a draft pick I can't see why they would make the trade for a late (or even mid) rounder. The odds of success are too low.

Any gm that gives him 20m should be fired immediately, realistically he's a 12m guy
meekrab
RealGM
Posts: 13,960
And1: 10,623
Joined: Dec 15, 2014

Re: Highest pick you'd give for Jalen Brunson? 

Post#27 » by meekrab » Tue Apr 6, 2021 7:28 pm

Pinkyring wrote:
JD45 wrote:Brunson is 24 years old and has a 20 PER now (13 ppg). That may not hold up with greater usage, but still if he were to hit free agency this year, I would expect him to get 20+ mil per year.

I am sure they would trade him for another player with proven production, but for a draft pick I can't see why they would make the trade for a late (or even mid) rounder. The odds of success are too low.

Any gm that gives him 20m should be fired immediately, realistically he's a 12m guy

Jrue Holiday just got ~double that after incentives and is only slightly better. "Realistically" his deal depends how important he is to the team that signs him and what else they can do with the cap space.
JD45
General Manager
Posts: 7,998
And1: 263
Joined: Dec 28, 2003

Re: Highest pick you'd give for Jalen Brunson? 

Post#28 » by JD45 » Tue Apr 6, 2021 7:59 pm

Pinkyring wrote:Any gm that gives him 20m should be fired immediately, realistically he's a 12m guy


Hollinger estimated Brunson's value at the beginning of this year at $12 million, which was coming off a season of 8 points and 15 PER. So far this season he is up to 13 ppg and a 20 PER.

Jerami Grant got $19 mil and he was coming off a 12 point, 14 PER season and he is two years older.

The numbers seem crazy, but I think that is just where the NBA is at right now.
"Government is the great fiction through which everyone endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else"

Frederic Bastiat
kobe_vs_jordan
RealGM
Posts: 10,684
And1: 5,073
Joined: Jan 07, 2012
Location: Atl
   

Re: Highest pick you'd give for Jalen Brunson? 

Post#29 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Tue Apr 6, 2021 8:01 pm

meekrab wrote:
Pinkyring wrote:
JD45 wrote:Brunson is 24 years old and has a 20 PER now (13 ppg). That may not hold up with greater usage, but still if he were to hit free agency this year, I would expect him to get 20+ mil per year.

I am sure they would trade him for another player with proven production, but for a draft pick I can't see why they would make the trade for a late (or even mid) rounder. The odds of success are too low.

Any gm that gives him 20m should be fired immediately, realistically he's a 12m guy

Jrue Holiday just got ~double that after incentives and is only slightly better. "Realistically" his deal depends how important he is to the team that signs him and what else they can do with the cap space.

Only slightly better?
Pinkyring
RealGM
Posts: 10,280
And1: 6,327
Joined: May 28, 2016

Re: Highest pick you'd give for Jalen Brunson? 

Post#30 » by Pinkyring » Tue Apr 6, 2021 8:47 pm

JD45 wrote:
Pinkyring wrote:Any gm that gives him 20m should be fired immediately, realistically he's a 12m guy


Hollinger estimated Brunson's value at the beginning of this year at $12 million, which was coming off a season of 8 points and 15 PER. So far this season he is up to 13 ppg and a 20 PER.

Jerami Grant got $19 mil and he was coming off a 12 point, 14 PER season and he is two years older.

The numbers seem crazy, but I think that is just where the NBA is at right now.

Grant is also overpaid yet he plays a position that is much more valuable than Brunson does
Pinkyring
RealGM
Posts: 10,280
And1: 6,327
Joined: May 28, 2016

Re: Highest pick you'd give for Jalen Brunson? 

Post#31 » by Pinkyring » Tue Apr 6, 2021 8:48 pm

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
meekrab wrote:
Pinkyring wrote:Any gm that gives him 20m should be fired immediately, realistically he's a 12m guy

Jrue Holiday just got ~double that after incentives and is only slightly better. "Realistically" his deal depends how important he is to the team that signs him and what else they can do with the cap space.

Only slightly better?

Holiday is a lot better, is he 30m a year better no but that's not how it works
ejftw
RealGM
Posts: 11,609
And1: 5,664
Joined: Nov 30, 2008
Contact:
         

Re: Highest pick you'd give for Jalen Brunson? 

Post#32 » by ejftw » Wed Apr 7, 2021 5:52 am

I'd consider giving up the Clippers pick for him, however, with the very high possibility that Ayo or Ayayi would be available, I'd hesitate.
Colbinii
RealGM
Posts: 34,243
And1: 21,858
Joined: Feb 13, 2013

Re: Highest pick you'd give for Jalen Brunson? 

Post#33 » by Colbinii » Wed Apr 7, 2021 1:12 pm

meekrab wrote:
Pinkyring wrote:
JD45 wrote:Brunson is 24 years old and has a 20 PER now (13 ppg). That may not hold up with greater usage, but still if he were to hit free agency this year, I would expect him to get 20+ mil per year.

I am sure they would trade him for another player with proven production, but for a draft pick I can't see why they would make the trade for a late (or even mid) rounder. The odds of success are too low.

Any gm that gives him 20m should be fired immediately, realistically he's a 12m guy

Jrue Holiday just got ~double that after incentives and is only slightly better. "Realistically" his deal depends how important he is to the team that signs him and what else they can do with the cap space.


Jrue Holiday is more than slightly better but that isnt how salaries work. Salaries to impact are exponentially related until you get to the Superstars, in which case they are underpaid.
daoneandonly
RealGM
Posts: 16,081
And1: 4,174
Joined: May 27, 2004
Location: Masalaland
   

Re: Highest pick you'd give for Jalen Brunson? 

Post#34 » by daoneandonly » Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:21 pm

There's no comparing Holiday to brunson, the former is just better in almost every aspect of the game.

I do think Brunson holds more value to Dallas than any other team, and Carlisle is a huge factor behind his success. Carlisle did this with guys like Yogi, Ellis, OJ, players who are not even in the league anymore.

I dont think Brunson has all that much value though. He cant defend a single guy on the court and rarely ever passes, so he has severe limitations. I still stand by the obvious pick in that draft should have been Trent Jr instead.
Deuteronomy 30:19 wrote:I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse. Therefore choose life, that you and your offspring may live
User avatar
dakomish23
Forum Mod - Knicks
Forum Mod - Knicks
Posts: 58,768
And1: 48,739
Joined: Sep 22, 2013
Location: Empire State
     

Re: Highest pick you'd give for Jalen Brunson? 

Post#35 » by dakomish23 » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:30 pm

Good fit with Luka on the floor and is more than capable to handle the floor general job when Luka is off. Take a look at some of his games when Luka sits. Also has some good chemistry with KP. Seems like a keeper who will get paid 4 /50
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor


#FreeJimmit
User avatar
Scoot McGroot
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 45,029
And1: 14,312
Joined: Feb 16, 2005
     

Re: Highest pick you'd give for Jalen Brunson? 

Post#36 » by Scoot McGroot » Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:25 pm

daoneandonly wrote:There's no comparing Holiday to brunson, the former is just better in almost every aspect of the game.

I do think Brunson holds more value to Dallas than any other team, and Carlisle is a huge factor behind his success. Carlisle did this with guys like Yogi, Ellis, OJ, players who are not even in the league anymore.

I dont think Brunson has all that much value though. He cant defend a single guy on the court and rarely ever passes, so he has severe limitations. I still stand by the obvious pick in that draft should have been Trent Jr instead.


The Yogi slander is unnecessary. He’s so good, he’s been asked to play for 2! Different NBA teams this year! And Utah’s G-League team! Amazing!

:lol:

Return to Trades and Transactions