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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#41 » by threrf23 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:37 am

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I mean we played well. Not that the comp was great. Philly is going to win the Title this year. No one is beating them with Embiid shooting 20 FTs a game and those shooters and D.



I'd take Milwaukee or Denver over Philly, prob Clippers too even though their supporting cast just seems to keep getting worse.
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#42 » by GotDaSauce » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:37 am

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:Fournier definitely helps a little bit but they're three best players, Walker, Brown and Tatum are shoot first sometimes selfish ISO players. As long as these three are the cornerstones this team's going to struggle no matter who was on the bench

Honestly Fournier jumps over Walker at this point as the 3rd best player on this team. So much less effort needed to score or even just get his shots off. He also doesn't need to pound the leather off the ball to do it.
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#43 » by Mr_Mojo_Risin » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:39 am

Philly is a well balanced, talented and defensive minded team. I never thought we had much of a chance with our outs. TT I think has been unfairly maligned because of conditioning then centre experimentations but would have been very important in limiting Embiid and preventing the need for too much help. All the extra help tires out our players and then with no Fournier to help with ball movement and spacing just flowed into poor and stagnant offence.

I don’t believe we are a contender this year however our team is still young and has been more heavily affected by COVID than any other team.

Rhythm and consistency is everything, especially in a season with limited to no training and we have never had it. While I’m frustrated if I sit back I think we’ve done about as well as can reasonably be expected in the circumstances.

Great to see Romeo get more minutes and Timelord hopefully learns a lot from that game. I just wish we had of had the foresight to keep Kemba for tomorrow night.

The turnovers did not really bother me tonight because a lot of them were from signs they were trying to play the right way. Good practice in doing so against a great defence. What I’m looking for is to see the guys keep trying to play that way, keep their head up and gain consistency.
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#44 » by JHTruth » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:39 am

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I mean we played well. Not that the comp was great. Philly is going to win the Title this year. No one is beating them with Embiid shooting 20 FTs a game and those shooters and D.



I'd take Milwaukee or Denver over Philly, prob Clippers too even though their supporting cast just seems to keep getting worse.


Milwaukee MAYBE. Embiid destroys Jokic who can't get calls though
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#45 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:40 am

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The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:Fournier definitely helps a little bit but they're three best players, Walker, Brown and Tatum are shoot first sometimes selfish ISO players. As long as these three are the cornerstones this team's going to struggle no matter who was on the bench

Honestly Fournier jumps over Walker at this point as the 3rd best player on this team. So much less effort needed to score or even just get his shots off. He also doesn't need to pound the leather off the ball to do it.


Yeah that could definitely be the case. The reality is that if danny rolls with Tatum, brown and Walker as cornerstone's next season youre going to see the same results until one of them is moved.
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#46 » by JHTruth » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:41 am

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The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:Fournier definitely helps a little bit but they're three best players, Walker, Brown and Tatum are shoot first sometimes selfish ISO players. As long as these three are the cornerstones this team's going to struggle no matter who was on the bench

Honestly Fournier jumps over Walker at this point as the 3rd best player on this team. So much less effort needed to score or even just get his shots off. He also doesn't need to pound the leather off the ball to do it.


Yeah that could definitely be the case. The reality is that if danny rolls with Tatum, brown and Walker as cornerstone's next season youre going to see the same results until one of them is moved.


Kemba is gone. There are reports coming out now that Danny had offers for him on the table last summer and almost pulled the trigger. This season has certainly convinced him to send Kemba out da door..
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#47 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:42 am

Who's still got the list of excuses ? I'd love to hear them
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#48 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:42 am

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They weren't "fake wins". Great wins against NBA teams. They just ran into a team that I think will win it all this year. Happens


Beating the sixers tonight would have been a great win; beating the rockets, a team that lost 20 games in a row and is completely tanking and beating a hornets team with their best players out is hardly what I consider great wins.


I mean we played well. Not that the comp was great. Philly is going to win the Title this year. No one is beating them with Embiid shooting 20 FTs a game and those shooters and D.

Celtics are not a contender this year. Yet everyone thinks we need to fire everyone after we lose to a superior team. Maybe time to adjust expectations


It's easy to play well against teams that are inferior to you. Not a surprise they face stiff competition tonight and look terrible.

Brooklyn will beat the sixers in 4 or 5 games.
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#49 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:43 am

LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Who's still got the list of excuses ? I'd love to hear them


If Fournier played the Celtics would have won by 10.
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#50 » by Hal14 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:43 am

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I think the problem is after looking pretty good and getting too fake wins against bad teams a few people bought into this team turning the corner.


They weren't "fake wins". Great wins against NBA teams. They just ran into a team that I think will win it all this year. Happens

Beating a tanking Houston team with a rotation of players most people have never heard of and a decimated Charlotte team led by Terry Rozier aren't "great wins"

1) We didn't just beat Houston and Charlotte. We blew them out.
2) Houston is not tanking. They are highly competitive professional athletes. If you think they are actually trying to lose on purpose you clearly have no idea how competitive professional athletes are and how the brain works of a competitive professional athlete.
3) Porter, Tate, House, Wood, Augustin, Olynyk, Mclemore, Avery Bradley. Anyone who's never heard of these guys has no idea what the hell they're talking about. They're definitely one of the worst teams in the league but this season even the teams near the bottom of the standings are tough. It's probably the deepest the NBA has been from top to bottom ever.
4) At full strength, Charlotte is clearly a deeper team than the Celtics, so even with the injuries they have, they are just as deep as us. Not as talented, but not the scrubs you're making them out to be. The game before we played them, Charlotte beat Indiana by 17. We are barely ahead of Indiana in the standings.
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#51 » by JHTruth » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:44 am

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
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Beating the sixers tonight would have been a great win; beating the rockets, a team that lost 20 games in a row and is completely tanking and beating a hornets team with their best players out is hardly what I consider great wins.


I mean we played well. Not that the comp was great. Philly is going to win the Title this year. No one is beating them with Embiid shooting 20 FTs a game and those shooters and D.

Celtics are not a contender this year. Yet everyone thinks we need to fire everyone after we lose to a superior team. Maybe time to adjust expectations


It's easy to play well against teams that are inferior to you. Not a surprise they face stiff competition tonight and look terrible.

Brooklyn will beat the sixers in 4 or 5 games.


Nah. Brooklyn will just put Durant's leg together with duct tape and hope he survives. No way they are beating Embiid at his absolute peak
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#52 » by greenroom31 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:44 am

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greenroom31 wrote:I’m stunned that so many posters apparently thought we were supposed to win tonight. Philly is really good this year and we’re mediocre — shouldn’t be that surprising. Not worthy of an AOS in my opinion, they’re just better than us.

I wasn't expecting a win, but I would've been happy with a loss had they played like they did in the last two games, with great effort and ball movement. Unfortunately, the Sixers defense is that good; they disrupted so many passes and forced many tough shots. Didn't help that our guys were absolutely careless and lackadaisical with the ball. So many goddamn turnovers.

Overall, just a disappointing effort. I could've lived with this loss had they played better, but they didn't. I'm sure others feel the same way.


Fair point on the turnovers and the lack of hustle relative to the 76ers. As you pointed out that’s how they play though... tough D and lots of energy and size. They’re a good, well coached team.
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#53 » by greenroom31 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:46 am

Hal14 wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:
JHTruth wrote:
They weren't "fake wins". Great wins against NBA teams. They just ran into a team that I think will win it all this year. Happens

Beating a tanking Houston team with a rotation of players most people have never heard of and a decimated Charlotte team led by Terry Rozier aren't "great wins"

1) We didn't just beat Houston and Charlotte. We blew them out.
2) Houston is not tanking. They are highly competitive professional athletes. If you think they are actually trying to lose on purpose you clearly have no idea how competitive professional athletes are and how the brain works of a competitive professional athlete.
3) Porter, Tate, House, Wood, Augustin, Olynyk, Mclemore, Avery Bradley. Anyone who's never heard of these guys has no idea what the hell they're talking about.
4) At full strength, Charlotte is clearly a deeper team than the Celtics, so even with the injuries they have, they are just as deep as us. Not as talented, but not the scrubs you're making them out to be. The game before we played them, Charlotte beat Indiana by 17. We are barely ahead of Indiana in the standings.


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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#54 » by PierceFan4ever » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:46 am

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The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:Fournier definitely helps a little bit but they're three best players, Walker, Brown and Tatum are shoot first sometimes selfish ISO players. As long as these three are the cornerstones this team's going to struggle no matter who was on the bench

Honestly Fournier jumps over Walker at this point as the 3rd best player on this team. So much less effort needed to score or even just get his shots off. He also doesn't need to pound the leather off the ball to do it.


Smiling is the only thing Kemba does better than Fournier. Evan is a better shooter, passer, and defender, and isn’t small.
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#55 » by BRUNiNHO91 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:48 am

We make teams look better than they really are because teams play harder, smarter and more connected than we do. We recently let an OKC team that is absolute hot garbage play an even game for 3 quarters and some dude we never heard of get a 20-20 half on us.

As much as Philly is solid, it's not about them. They did nothing today that we haven't seen them do before. This is just Boston with bad basketball, bad coaching and a really horrendous 35 million dollar trash can wearing number 8.

I mean who doubles off Danny Green? Worst of all, they double on the catch and not om the dribble where the ball is live and low.. They don't sag off Ben Simmons and try to attack him on iso plays all game long. Brad literally has no clue how to get the most out of JT or JB without iso'ing them.

Reggie Miller said it best when talking about Brett Brown being replaced by Doc Rivers.. Sometimes you just need a new voice. People were calling for a Simmons or Embiid trade this summer in similar ways to what we have started seeing with the Jays.
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#56 » by grindtime22 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:48 am

JHTruth wrote:
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I mean we played well. Not that the comp was great. Philly is going to win the Title this year. No one is beating them with Embiid shooting 20 FTs a game and those shooters and D.



I'd take Milwaukee or Denver over Philly, prob Clippers too even though their supporting cast just seems to keep getting worse.


Milwaukee MAYBE. Embiid destroys Jokic who can't get calls though


I don't know about that

You need big boys to defend Embiid. Kanter was our best defender on him last year by a mile and he would be this year as well. You just need guys that aren't going to be easily bullied. If he makes jumpers, he makes jumpers. Oh well. The free throws will not be as easy to come by in the postseason. Its obvious that Morey ball has taken Embiid to a new level, but he won't get as much garbage in the postseason.

On the other end, the Nuggets have everything to exploit the drop. If Jokic lets it fly, that would severely disrupt Philly's defense. The blueprint to beat these drop defenses is out there and everybody knows it. It just doesn't get ratcheted up until the postseason.
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#57 » by PierceFan4ever » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:49 am

If Durant is healthy nobody is beating the Nets. KD is also the best player on the planet imo.
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Post#59 » by JHTruth » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:51 am

PierceFan4ever wrote:If Durant is healthy nobody is beating the Nets. KD is also the best player on the planet imo.


LOL you guys honestly think Durant is going to return to the court as his old self? Guy hasn't played like the whole year. He's 32 coming off an achilles tear.

He's KG post-2009. Everyone is going to wait for him to return to his former self and he just won't have that gear
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Re: I miss Fournier AOS: PHI 106, BOS 96 (25-26) 

Post#60 » by Ill News » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:51 am

Hal14 wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:
JHTruth wrote:
They weren't "fake wins". Great wins against NBA teams. They just ran into a team that I think will win it all this year. Happens

Beating a tanking Houston team with a rotation of players most people have never heard of and a decimated Charlotte team led by Terry Rozier aren't "great wins"

1) We didn't just beat Houston and Charlotte. We blew them out.
2) Houston is not tanking. They are highly competitive professional athletes. If you think they are actually trying to lose on purpose you clearly have no idea how competitive professional athletes are and how the brain works of a competitive professional athlete.
3) Porter, Tate, House, Wood, Augustin, Olynyk, Mclemore, Avery Bradley. Anyone who's never heard of these guys has no idea what the hell they're talking about.
4) At full strength, Charlotte is clearly a deeper team than the Celtics, so even with the injuries they have, they are just as deep as us. Not as talented, but not the scrubs you're making them out to be. The game before we played them, Charlotte beat Indiana by 17. We are barely ahead of Indiana in the standings.

Lol, that's a lot of mental gymnastics there.

What do you mean, Houston isn't tanking? The athletes themselves might not be playing to lose, but the entire makeup of that team screams of "tanking," so I don't know what you're talking about. That team is not built to win right now despite all those names you listed, hence they are tanking.

Sure, Charlotte *might* seem like a deeper team than the Celtics, but you're underestimating how depleted they are without their top two players. Hayward and Ball are the guys who make that team run; without them, they're not as strong as their record.

Face it, those were two "take care of business" wins. Those weren't wins we should've been excited about.

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