NBA MVP Discussion '20-'21, Part 2 (Poll created 21 March '21)

Post #581 » by **Duke4life831** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 3:23 am

GSP wrote:

Joel getting as many free throws this game as Jokic in his last 6 combined

I wonder if the refs will keep giving Joel these calls in the playoffs. He def needs them based on his playoff career

To put the FT thing into perspective.

Embiid is averaging 11.6 FT attempts per game.

Jokic has had only 6 games with at least 10 FT attempts. Only has had 2 games with 12 or more (12 and 14 are his two highs on the year).

Embiid almost averages 12 a game, Jokic has only gotten than many twice.

That is just crazy to think about.

eyeatoma · Post #582 » by **eyeatoma** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 4:13 am

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Jurassic_Park · Post #583 » by **Jurassic_Park** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 4:22 am

dygaction wrote:Jokic is in cruise control mode like Giannis last year. Blow wins over teams and put up amazing numbers in ~30 mpg.

Yup. Jokic simply dominating. Imagine jokic sat 20 games like embiid. Nuggets would be toast.

dygaction · Post #584 » by **dygaction** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 4:24 am

Jurassic_Park wrote:
dygaction wrote:Jokic is in cruise control mode like Giannis last year. Blow wins over teams and put up amazing numbers in ~30 mpg.

Yup. Jokic simply dominating. Imagine jokic sat 20 games like embiid. Nuggets would be toast.

Embiid sitting 10 games did not hurt 76ers a bit should also strengthen Jokic's case.

eyeatoma · Post #585 » by **eyeatoma** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 4:32 am

dygaction wrote:
Jurassic_Park wrote:
dygaction wrote:Jokic is in cruise control mode like Giannis last year. Blow wins over teams and put up amazing numbers in ~30 mpg.

Yup. Jokic simply dominating. Imagine jokic sat 20 games like embiid. Nuggets would be toast.

Embiid sitting 10 games did not hurt 76ers a bit should also strengthen Jokic's case.

Jokic had a terrible week last week, if you take his season numbers into consideration. I will not put it past Jo to get back into this thing.

dygaction · Post #586 » by **dygaction** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 4:33 am

eyeatoma wrote:
dygaction wrote:
Jurassic_Park wrote:
Yup. Jokic simply dominating. Imagine jokic sat 20 games like embiid. Nuggets would be toast.

Embiid sitting 10 games did not hurt 76ers a bit should also strengthen Jokic's case.

Jokic had a terrible week last week, if you take his season numbers into consideration. I will not put it past Jo to get back into this thing.

Are you watching games? He is integrating a new piece into starting lineup while blowing other teams away in 3 quarters. Give me some terrible weeks...

Kurtz · Post #587 » by **Kurtz** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 4:36 am

eyeatoma wrote:
dygaction wrote:
Jurassic_Park wrote:
Yup. Jokic simply dominating. Imagine jokic sat 20 games like embiid. Nuggets would be toast.

Embiid sitting 10 games did not hurt 76ers a bit should also strengthen Jokic's case.

Jokic had a terrible week last week, if you take his season numbers into consideration. I will not put it past Jo to get back into this thing.

Define "terrible"...

17/9/9, while going 3-0 including wins vs Philly and Clippers. If you feel that's terrible for him, that should tell you something.

eathb_au · Post #588 » by **eathb_au** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 4:45 am

Kurtz wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
dygaction wrote:
Embiid sitting 10 games did not hurt 76ers a bit should also strengthen Jokic's case.

Jokic had a terrible week last week, if you take his season numbers into consideration. I will not put it past Jo to get back into this thing.

Define "terrible"...

It's a hilarious argument

Since Aaron Gordon has joined, Nikola Jokic is putting up:

19 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 9.4 apg
57/43/77 shooting splits
Nuggets went 5-0 in that period and he was legitimately doing this in three quarters as we are blowing teams out.

I mean it's down from his 26/10/9 season averages but are we legitimately measuring him against himself?

Ballerhogger · Post #589 » by **Ballerhogger** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 4:46 am

Curry is the difference between 50 blow out and a win against a top team in the East . That is all

dygaction · Post #590 » by **dygaction** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 4:49 am

eathb_au wrote:
Kurtz wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Jokic had a terrible week last week, if you take his season numbers into consideration. I will not put it past Jo to get back into this thing.

Define "terrible"...

It's a hilarious argument

Since Aaron Gordon has joined, Nikola Jokic is putting up:

19 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 9.4 apg
57/43/77 shooting splits
Nuggets went 5-0 in that period and he was legitimately doing this in three quarters as we are blowing teams out.

I mean it's down from his 26/10/9 season averages but are we legitimately measuring him against himself?

Embiid could outscore Jokic by just hitting all free throws tonight...

Kurtz · Post #591 » by **Kurtz** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 4:51 am

Ballerhogger wrote:Curry is the difference between 50 blow out and a win against a top team in the East . That is all

No Giannis...

eyeatoma · Post #592 » by **eyeatoma** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 5:03 am

Kurtz wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
dygaction wrote:
Embiid sitting 10 games did not hurt 76ers a bit should also strengthen Jokic's case.

Jokic had a terrible week last week, if you take his season numbers into consideration. I will not put it past Jo to get back into this thing.

Define "terrible"...

17/9/9, while going 3-0 including wins vs Philly and Clippers. If you feel that's terrible for him, that should tell you something.

Those are definitely not MVP numbers for a week. Compared to the 29/11/9 he was averaging before that.

eathb_au · Post #593 » by **eathb_au** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 5:05 am

dygaction wrote:
eathb_au wrote:
Kurtz wrote:
Define "terrible"...

It's a hilarious argument

Since Aaron Gordon has joined, Nikola Jokic is putting up:

19 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 9.4 apg
57/43/77 shooting splits
Nuggets went 5-0 in that period and he was legitimately doing this in three quarters as we are blowing teams out.

I mean it's down from his 26/10/9 season averages but are we legitimately measuring him against himself?

Embiid could outscore Jokic by just hitting all free throws tonight...

And the Nuggets have had the #1 offense in the last 5 games and Jokic is the only all star on his team unlike Embiid.

Sgt Major · Post #594 » by **Sgt Major** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 5:07 am

Jokic is integrating Gordon in the squad

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Inspektor1312 · Post #595 » by **Inspektor1312** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 5:38 am

A "slow" 19/9/9 week while going 5-0 is still more valuable than a week missed due to injury in my humble opinion

DCasey91 · Post #596 » by **DCasey91** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 5:43 am

Ballerhogger wrote:
KGtabake wrote:
psimanic1 wrote:

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Yah he has surpassed Dirk in RS. No doubt.
You can't defend that.

Definelty looks like tougher shot . See how does in the playoffs, better RS than dirks mvp season ?

Offensively? Yes Jokics offensive seasons is up their with the greatest of all time. It’s out of control.
He’s already gone bananas in each playoff run so far.
His peak isn’t too far off either (next year I reckon).

First seasons of fully conditioned Jokic/Embiid has been scary this year.

Now for bulky marathon Doncic and the league is done for lol.

Surprised people mentioned Embiid I go for the sixers and I don’t even have him top 4 lol.

Do you how insane of a season you have to have while missing 18 games already? If he put up Wilt numbers yeah sure. But Jokic has had a better impact anyway (offensively it’s absurd) and Embiid isn’t anywhere near 36% better value wise not a chance in the world. In fact part of being valuable is being available.

Sgt Major · Post #597 » by **Sgt Major** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 5:52 am

Inspektor1312 wrote:A "slow" 19/9/9 week while going 5-0 is still more valuable than a week missed due to injury in my humble opinion

Hahahaha well said

Woodsanity · Post #598 » by **Woodsanity** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 5:54 am

eyeatoma wrote:
Kurtz wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Jokic had a terrible week last week, if you take his season numbers into consideration. I will not put it past Jo to get back into this thing.

Define "terrible"...

17/9/9, while going 3-0 including wins vs Philly and Clippers. If you feel that's terrible for him, that should tell you something.

Those are definitely not MVP numbers for a week. Compared to the 29/11/9 he was averaging before that.

17/9/9 is still better than 0/0/0 from Embiid. :nod:

eyeatoma · Post #599 » by **eyeatoma** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 6:01 am

Woodsanity wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Kurtz wrote:
Define "terrible"...

17/9/9, while going 3-0 including wins vs Philly and Clippers. If you feel that's terrible for him, that should tell you something.

Those are definitely not MVP numbers for a week. Compared to the 29/11/9 he was averaging before that.

17/9/9 is still better than 0/0/0 from Embiid.

Hahaha! You're so funny!

AleksandarN · Post #600 » by **AleksandarN** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 6:20 am

GSP wrote:

Joel getting as many free throws this game as Jokic in his last 6 combined

I wonder if the refs will keep giving Joel these calls in the playoffs. He def needs them based on his playoff career

Look how many and 1s he should have had this game. Just from the highlights alone

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