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Game Thread: Knicks (25-26) @ Celtics (25-26) – 7:30PM, Wed. 04-07-21

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Re: Game Thread: Knicks (25-26) @ Celtics (25-26) – 7:30PM, Wed. 04-07-21 

Post#21 » by JediMasterRevan » Wed Apr 7, 2021 4:38 pm

tfribs45 wrote:
JediMasterRevan wrote:I feel like its a loss.
Hate to say it but I have zero faith in the team right now.

Feel like Brown and Tatum has zero faith in it too.


This is the type of game that JT and JB need to take over.... Ever since the Allstar break, they have been below their average all around. They wouldn't have made the Allstar game if you only focused on the second half of the season?! Not sure what's going on, maybe JB is upset because JT wants Beal in his place? hmmmmm either way they need to grow a pair and start carrying this team like the proclaimed duo stars that they are..... This is a playoff game tonight, hoping they all bring it!



I do not think JB feel like Tatum wants Beal instead of Brown.

If Tatum wants beal it would be to pair WITH him and Brown.

I think they are just down on losing, irrational rotations, injuries, covid, etc.
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Post#22 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Apr 7, 2021 4:45 pm

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tfribs45 wrote:
JediMasterRevan wrote:I feel like its a loss.
Hate to say it but I have zero faith in the team right now.

Feel like Brown and Tatum has zero faith in it too.


This is the type of game that JT and JB need to take over.... Ever since the Allstar break, they have been below their average all around. They wouldn't have made the Allstar game if you only focused on the second half of the season?! Not sure what's going on, maybe JB is upset because JT wants Beal in his place? hmmmmm either way they need to grow a pair and start carrying this team like the proclaimed duo stars that they are..... This is a playoff game tonight, hoping they all bring it!



I do not think JB feel like Tatum wants Beal instead of Brown.

If Tatum wants beal it would be to pair WITH him and Brown.

I think they are just down on losing, irrational rotations, injuries, covid, etc.


Celtics front court consists of 1 young stud (RW3), 6'6" PF (G Williams), 3 G League centers (Fall, Kornet, Wagner) and one guy coming back from a long layoff (Thompson).

Celtics could very well get pummeled tonight.
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Re: Game Thread: Knicks (25-26) @ Celtics (25-26) – 7:30PM, Wed. 04-07-21 

Post#23 » by 31to6 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 4:46 pm

JediMasterRevan wrote:
tfribs45 wrote:
JediMasterRevan wrote:I feel like its a loss.
Hate to say it but I have zero faith in the team right now.

Feel like Brown and Tatum has zero faith in it too.


This is the type of game that JT and JB need to take over.... Ever since the Allstar break, they have been below their average all around. They wouldn't have made the Allstar game if you only focused on the second half of the season?! Not sure what's going on, maybe JB is upset because JT wants Beal in his place? hmmmmm either way they need to grow a pair and start carrying this team like the proclaimed duo stars that they are..... This is a playoff game tonight, hoping they all bring it!



I do not think JB feel like Tatum wants Beal instead of Brown.

If Tatum wants beal it would be to pair WITH him and Brown.

I think they are just down on losing, irrational rotations, injuries, covid, etc.


They need to step up and impose their will on games.
They are playing like maybe/wannabe all stars instead of truly minted STARS.

Get into the paint and finish.
Find your teammates; move the ball.
If you don’t get a call MOVE THE **** ON!
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Post#24 » by JediMasterRevan » Wed Apr 7, 2021 4:51 pm

31to6 wrote:
JediMasterRevan wrote:
tfribs45 wrote:
This is the type of game that JT and JB need to take over.... Ever since the Allstar break, they have been below their average all around. They wouldn't have made the Allstar game if you only focused on the second half of the season?! Not sure what's going on, maybe JB is upset because JT wants Beal in his place? hmmmmm either way they need to grow a pair and start carrying this team like the proclaimed duo stars that they are..... This is a playoff game tonight, hoping they all bring it!



I do not think JB feel like Tatum wants Beal instead of Brown.

If Tatum wants beal it would be to pair WITH him and Brown.

I think they are just down on losing, irrational rotations, injuries, covid, etc.


They need to step up and impose their will on games.
They are playing like maybe/wannabe all stars instead of truly minted STARS.

Get into the paint and finish.
Find your teammates; move the ball.
If you don’t get a call MOVE THE **** ON!


IU dont disagree, they are immature to a certain extent, but danny and brad have sure NOT put them in place to excel and win.
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Re: Game Thread: Knicks (25-26) @ Celtics (25-26) – 7:30PM, Wed. 04-07-21 

Post#25 » by bisme37 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 4:54 pm

I'm thinking if we don't alternate between throwing the ball out of bounds and committing fouls on every possession we will have a decent chance to win. But who knows, really?
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Re: Game Thread: Knicks (25-26) @ Celtics (25-26) – 7:30PM, Wed. 04-07-21 

Post#26 » by Bleeding Green » Wed Apr 7, 2021 5:05 pm

I wonder at which point in this game I will have the most disdain for myself for actually looking forward to, and watching, a Celtics game. Probably midway through the third quarter?
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Re: Game Thread: Knicks (25-26) @ Celtics (25-26) – 7:30PM, Wed. 04-07-21 

Post#27 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Wed Apr 7, 2021 5:50 pm

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CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:This might get ugly tonight.

It could. Going up against the no. 1 defense in the league (according to opponent FG%, opponent 3 point % and opponent points per game) without 2 of our top 4 scorers.

Let's hope they really focus on coming out with more energy, more intensity, more togetherness and focus on ball movement.

Against a long/athletic/aggressive defense like Philly or NY, you need to hit the guy in the middle at the high post, look opposite, make skip passes, make backdoor cuts and most importantly ball fakes..


Yeah. Thibs’ defensive schemes specialize in shutting down 1-2 guys. ISO ball is not going to cut it tonight.
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Re: Game Thread: Knicks (25-26) @ Celtics (25-26) – 7:30PM, Wed. 04-07-21 

Post#28 » by GoCeltics123 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 5:54 pm

Knicks are the antithesis of this team. They play way above their talent level mainly because they play hard and play defense. They struggle to close games like us, that's the only similarity.
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Post#31 » by 31to6 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 7:23 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:I wonder at which point in this game I will have the most disdain for myself for actually looking forward to, and watching, a Celtics game. Probably midway through the third quarter?


Maybe whenever Grant Williams and Semi check in?
That usually does it for me.
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Post#32 » by SRM82 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 7:58 pm

Flip a coin 2 so so teams
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Post#33 » by zoyathedestroya » Wed Apr 7, 2021 8:01 pm

3.5 hours til tipoff.

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Re: Game Thread: Knicks (25-26) @ Celtics (25-26) – 7:30PM, Wed. 04-07-21 

Post#34 » by Bad-Thoma » Wed Apr 7, 2021 8:10 pm

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Post#35 » by zoyathedestroya » Wed Apr 7, 2021 8:19 pm

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Re: Game Thread: Knicks (25-26) @ Celtics (25-26) – 7:30PM, Wed. 04-07-21 

Post#37 » by JimmyFromNz » Wed Apr 7, 2021 9:26 pm

Thompson gives me headaches, but having him back to help cover Randle is underrated. We have our well documented offensive woes, yet the Knicks also have some real execution issues down the stretch. It is essentially put Randle on an island, surrounded by a group of poor shooters.

To me winning this game begins with pressure on their ball handlers, Payton, Barrett, Rose all have a lot of warts and their offense is entirely predictable, if Marcus and Jaylen are active defensively that sets us up well to get out on the break for the easy buckets we need, particularly with our own limited offensive options today. With Randle handling the ball a lot, I think the most effective approach is to keep him settling for mid rangers in that 18-20ft space - easier said than done. I wouldn't mind seeing Tatum given extended time guarding him, sure he gives up some muscle, but he has length to deny, can stay in front of him, and has the defensive awareness needed to push him to those spots on the floor.

On that note, it would be nice to see Jayson get his head in the game, no one on their team can guard him if he putting himself in the right spots, unfortunately its just a given we are going to rely on him and Smart a lot in the half court tonight. That really just comes down to basic execution, and as mentioned by nearly everyone... not turning the ball over.

From the bench, I'd hope to see much more of Pritchard, I think yesterday's game was just overwhelming, the 76ers length and defensive intensity wasn't ideal for a small rookie point guard, and he also got lost a number of times guarding his man (NB: Ben Simmons play in particular where he sent him 5 ft the wrong way with a hesitation). The Knicks thankfully despite being just as aggressive dont present the same physical challenge. Strong cameos from whoever else gets their bingo number gets called all important too!

Feeling this could be a real hunger games scenario tonight, two diametrically opposed teams, each with significant limitations, yet each struggle to put teams away down the stretch...expecting a rough final 5 minutes :D
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Post#38 » by Bleeding Green » Wed Apr 7, 2021 9:27 pm

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Bleeding Green wrote:I wonder at which point in this game I will have the most disdain for myself for actually looking forward to, and watching, a Celtics game. Probably midway through the third quarter?


Maybe whenever Grant Williams and Semi check in?
That usually does it for me.
**** I would’ve traded 17 picks for Aaron Gordon.
(Even though I know he’s not really good)

I like Grant, at least there is something there worth developing. Semi is just a brick wall of nothing and a free agent after the Celtics get swept in the first round, so not really interested in watching him in a wasted season.
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Post#39 » by Curmudgeon » Wed Apr 7, 2021 9:35 pm

Who would have thought, two months ago, that 51 games into the season, the Celtics and Knicks would have identical records.
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