Post#53 » by slicedbread2 » Thu Apr 8, 2021 9:32 am
Well I can't say I'm surprised. Personally, they need time to properly gel, but there is a lot of evidence pointing out that Griffin may be out of his depth here. I'll play devil's advocate here:
1) 2019 draft night. The draft is a crap shoot and you really have no idea how someone can truly develop in your system. Some players never get to realize their full potential as sometimes they land in a horrible spot where they don't get the time needed to develop properly or end up on a team where their talent isn't needed or wasted. You really don't know what you'll get until 3-4 years down the line.
In this case, Griffin probably wasn't happy with what was out there. If R.J. Barrett was available, I think he'd have taken him to play with his old Duke teammate Zion. A shame he passed on Hunter, but the deal was made prior to the pick. My issue was that they did this deal to dump Solomon Hill's expiring contract when they were a rebuilding team with no reason to do so all in an effort to sign J.J. Redick. These were the following assets that NOLA could've gotten from Atlanta:
-Atlanta's 19(8th)+20 1st(could put some light pro.)
-Dallas' 1st(10th)
-Cleveland 20 1st(top 10 pro. became 21+22 2nds)
-OKC 1st(lotto pro. until 22 then becomes 24+25 2nds)
-Brooklyn 19 1st(17th)+20 1st(became Poku)
They could've gotten a lot out of this as Travis Schlenk was really high and was prepared to pay a premium price for moving up 4 spots for Hunter who has become a stud and Griffin could've demanded a hefty sum. Instead, the Hawks were able to lower the asking price and in exchange for eating Hill's deal, they got the 8th and 17th picks that became Hayes and NAW along with the Cleveland 1st that became 2 2nds. They could've asked for the OKC 1st plus a pro. Atlanta pick in addition to what they got if they weren't so hellbent on signing Redick. Massively undersold here and could've sent the OKC pick back to the Thunder in exchange for eating Bledsoe's deal.
2) Jrue Holiday trade. I know that they felt that Jrue was probably gonna opt out and leave, but to me if the rumours were true that Myles Turner was available prior to this year, I think they missed the boat and could've used Jrue+Jaxson Hayes and a future 1st to nab Turner. May seem like an overpay, but Turner has 2 more years on his deal after this season. Myles would be the perfect complementary piece to Zion as not only can he be a defensive anchor that swats shots, but he can be a stretch 5 that shoots it at league average.
Instead, they chose to send him to Milwaukee. Now the package at the time was appealing as they got Bledsoe+Hill, 3 1sts and 2 swaps that were valuable. Giannis resigned and their only hope is that the 26 swap and 27 pick amount to something. My bigger qualm with this deal was that they gave away the pick that became R.J. Hampton to DEN who sent their 23 lotto pro. 1st to OKC and then giving up George Hill while keeping Eric Bledsoe and giving Steven Adams an extension before seeing if he fit in the Pelicans system or not. If OKC is getting a 1st, I'd send them a couple of 2nds as well just to eat Bledsoe's deal and keep Hill as Hill's last year is only guaranteed for 1.3M
Bledsoe has been horrid out there and clearly doesn't want to be in NO playing for a rebuilding team. The only good part is he's an exp. next year as his extra year is only guaranteed for 3.9M. They really should've found a way to keep Hill as I think he'd been better for working with and developing the younger guys in instilling good habits as he has a sharp BB IQ and is a good 3+D shooter even at his age. Plus if they had let Adams play out the year and he failed and flipped Hill for more assets, they'd have a lot of cap flexibility to work with and could work on a deal to bring back Lonzo as he's the ideal #3 guy next to BI+Zion.
3) Lack of experience/health/questionable hires. The young dudes are clearly green with Ingram needing to develop more consistency in order to take his game to the next level while Zion needs to develop a good mid range shot in order to save his body from the wear and tear that doomed Blake Griffin and I hope Zion eventually becomes an 80%FT shooter with a solid 13-17ft jump shot. If he develops that and stays in shape, he's gonna be an even bigger problem going forward.
Lonzo has made great strides in improving his FT% and being a more consistent 3PT shooter at 37% these past 2 years. He's battled some nagging injuries throughout his young career, but to me he reminds me of what Shaun Livingston could've been with a 3pt shot minus the career altering injury that ruined him for years. The Pelicans need to stop beating around the bush and pay him.
I like Stan Van Gundy as a HC, but to me they missed a good opportunity to go with a rising star in the coaching ranks. To me, Chris Finch could've been a far better hire or anybody from the coaching trees of Spoelstra, Nurse, Pop, Carlisle, Snyder or Malone. Kenny Atkinson could've been ideal as he did a great job in being a floor raiser on those underdog Brooklyn teams prior to KD arriving. When the team is losing games they should be winning or slipping on defense and digging themselves a hole, it's not good at all.
I think they'll be fine in the long run, but they really they need to move Bledsoe as his bad habits and low BB IQ is frustrating and there's a reason the Bucks were willing to pay a premium to move him.