OKC is a disgrace

[sashaturiaf]

This is classic tanking and its been going on a long time. Blaming this on analytics or players finally gaining some power is rich. And wrong.

And what is the cause of blatant tanking. It's the advent of superteams that leaves the middle of the pack literally helpless. In that it is worse to be a 8 seed than the worst team in the league.

Hinkies and Prestis didn't exist in the 90s when more than 1-2 teams felt like they had a shot at a title

What are you talking about? The amount of contenders has not changed in the NBA over the past 40 years. What Okc is doing is an affront to the league. Much worse than The Process. The Process was a team collecting picks, having a roster full of young guys and talent with legit injuries. The Thunder had a competitive team and decided to sit everyone.

I do not want to hear one person crying for Okc when SGA forces his way out of there at any time. Imagine if the Mavericks just sat Luka, KP and a couple of other starters all season just so they can draft a star to go with Luka.

There will always be good teams and bad teams. That is nature.

However show me a team in the 90s or even 2000s that tanked as brazenly as the Hinkie Sixers did. They coined it The Process due to how blatant it was

[draftnightsuit]

Welcome to the analytics/teamup era. Embrace it

Titles are won on phones and spreadsheets instead of the court

This has nothing to do with analytics or teaming up.

[Texas Chuck]

Lol at you chuck lecturing me about the history.of the game when you cant even get Robinson/Duncan right

Lots of teams intentionally fielded bad teams to gain high draft picks. But since you just need one, look at the 92-93 Dallas Mavericks intentionally as bad as possible including not working hard to sign Jim Jackson to his rookie deal.

[Dr Aki]

OKC also probably had the gall to complain to Woj about the Nets and Lakers during buyout season

[sportfan6197]

This is classic tanking and its been going on a long time. Blaming this on analytics or players finally gaining some power is rich. And wrong.

And what is the cause of blatant tanking. It's the advent of superteams that leaves the middle of the pack literally helpless. In that it is worse to be a 8 seed than the worst team in the league.

Hinkies and Prestis didn't exist in the 90s when more than 1-2 teams felt like they had a shot at a title

What are you talking about? The amount of contenders has not changed in the NBA over the past 40 years. What Okc is doing is an affront to the league. Much worse than The Process. The Process was a team collecting picks, having a roster full of young guys and talent with legit injuries. The Thunder had a competitive team and decided to sit everyone.

I do not want to hear one person crying for Okc when SGA forces his way out of there at any time. Imagine if the Mavericks just sat Luka, KP and a couple of other starters all season just so they can draft a star to go with Luka.

who are they sitting? Shai is injured. Horford is the only one and that was his choice. Dort? jeez.

[Dupp]

Itt: Hinkie invented tanking.

[draftnightsuit]

And what is the cause of blatant tanking. It's the advent of superteams that leaves the middle of the pack literally helpless. In that it is worse to be a 8 seed than the worst team in the league.

Hinkies and Prestis didn't exist in the 90s when more than 1-2 teams felt like they had a shot at a title

What are you talking about? The amount of contenders has not changed in the NBA over the past 40 years. What Okc is doing is an affront to the league. Much worse than The Process. The Process was a team collecting picks, having a roster full of young guys and talent with legit injuries. The Thunder had a competitive team and decided to sit everyone.

I do not want to hear one person crying for Okc when SGA forces his way out of there at any time. Imagine if the Mavericks just sat Luka, KP and a couple of other starters all season just so they can draft a star to go with Luka.

There will always be good teams and bad teams. That is nature.

However show me a team in the 90s or even 2000s that tanked as brazenly as the Hinkie Sixers did. They coined it The Process due to how blatant it was

The reason why the lottery exists is because of the Houston Rockets who blatantly tanked in 1983 and 1984 to get the #1 pick.

It’s ok that you don’t know that though since you’re probably like 15.

[rand]

There are 6 teams with worse records than OKC. What the hell is this thread?

[Dino353]

lol i was looking at their lineup the other day. In their 8 man rotation they play:
3 undrafted rookies and 1 undrafted player
2 2nd round picks
2 late first round picks who already were dropped by their draft team

has to be one of the rotations in the past 5 years

Pokusevski and Shai are definitely keepers going forward, they've actually overachieved this season.

[basketballRob]

Just noticed Dort has been out 6 games with a concussion. I think it's normally 24 hours. Plus another guy was out with a concussion, didn't catch his name.

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[BenoUdrihFTL]

This is classic tanking and its been going on a long time. Blaming this on analytics or players finally gaining some power is rich. And wrong.

And what is the cause of blatant tanking. It's the advent of superteams that leaves the middle of the pack literally helpless. In that it is worse to be a 8 seed than the worst team in the league.

Hinkies and Prestis didn't exist in the 90s when more than 1-2 teams felt like they had a shot at a title

Guess how San Antonio got David Robinson? It was the tank of all tanks.

It's okay to not be a historian of the game and to have only started following it recently. But please trust me that this didn't start with Hinkie. Not even close.

Lmao the factual inaccuracy + smug condescension makes for a pretty special post

[Chanel Bomber]

I guess it's easier to play a lineup like that when there's no crowd. That's not even an NBA squad.

Which is smart.

I was actually hoping the Knicks would take this opportunity to tank in an empty MSG for a second shot at a superstar talent.

Apparently, hopping on the treadmill was a more appealing option.

[sashaturiaf]

Lol at you chuck lecturing me about the history.of the game when you cant even get Robinson/Duncan right

Lots of teams intentionally fielded bad teams to gain high draft picks. But since you just need one, look at the 92-93 Dallas Mavericks intentionally as bad as possible including not working hard to sign Jim Jackson to his rookie deal.

Would you say your Mavs blatantly fielded bad teams or they were just a bad team.

When you blew up your team with the 3 J's did you trade them all for scrubs and draft picks? or you did actually try and get players of use for them. When you traded Jimmy jacksonn to us for Shawn Bradley I don't think that was done with tanking in mind. When you traded JKidd for Mike Finley I don't think that was done with tanking in mind.

Good teams and bad teams will always exist. But systematic tanking including trading any value for future picks instead of players is very much a 2010s phenomenon. The team up era broke up the competitive pride of the league and this is what we have to live with.

[LivingLegend]

Just noticed Dort has been out 6 games with a concussion. I think it's normally 24 hours. Plus another guy was out with a concussion, didn't catch his name.

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Delly missed the first 3 months of the season with a concussion he suffered in the preseason. Concussions are not a timeline, they effect everybody differently. A concussion is quite literally a injury to your brain.

[Texas Chuck]

Lol at you chuck lecturing me about the history.of the game when you cant even get Robinson/Duncan right

Lots of teams intentionally fielded bad teams to gain high draft picks. But since you just need one, look at the 92-93 Dallas Mavericks intentionally as bad as possible including not working hard to sign Jim Jackson to his rookie deal.

Would you say your Mavs blatantly fielded bad teams or they were just a bad team.

When you blew up your team with the 3 J's did you trade them all for scrubs and draft picks? or you did actually try and get players of use for them. When you traded Jimmy jacksonn to us for Shawn Bradley I don't think that was done with tanking in mind. When you traded JKidd for Mike Finley I don't think that was done with tanking in mind.

Good teams and bad teams will always exist. But systematic tanking including trading any value for future picks instead of players is very much a 2010s phenomenon. The team up era broke up the competitive pride of the league and this is what we have to live with.

I cited that year specifically for a reason. A lot of it was incompetence. They took LA to game 7 in the WCF and then the drug troubles started for Tarpley and then panic set it and a series of just mindboggling bad transactions happened in the immediate aftermath. They finally realized they couldn't patch it together and intentionally fielded a young, bad team with Harper as the one veteran leader.

Nellie's mad scientist trades were all terrible of course right up until the one magical night where he landed Dirk and Nash. But 92-93 predated Nellie's attempts to build a winner once the 3 J's proved they couldn't co-exist.

[Nuntius]

Hinkies and Prestis didn't exist in the 90s when more than 1-2 teams felt like they had a shot at a title

The NBA saw 5 different champions in the 90s. Chicago won 6, Houston won 2 while Detroit, SAS and LAL won 1 each (yes, I know that it adds up to 11 seasons, I'm counting both 89-90 and 99-00).

In the 2010s, the NBA saw 7 different champions. GSW won 3, LAL won 2 (with two different teams, one Kobe, one LeBron), Miami won 2 while Dallas, SAS, Cleveland and Toronto won 1 each.

I don't think that saying that no more than 1-2 teams feel like they have a shot at a title is accurate.

[BlazersBroncos]

They had been overachieving for quite some time. They need to tank to balance that out.

Also, its arguable that a team knowing they have nowhere to go is making a non-tanking, actual long-term developmental move by targeting 10-day youngsters and D-Leaguers. Its arguably worked for them about 1.5 times in the past 18 months with Dort and Brown.

[sashaturiaf]

Hinkies and Prestis didn't exist in the 90s when more than 1-2 teams felt like they had a shot at a title

The NBA saw 5 different champions in the 90s. Chicago won 6, Houston won 2 while Detroit, SAS and LAL won 1 each (yes, I know that it adds up to 11 seasons, I'm counting both 89-90 and 99-00).

In the 2010s, the NBA saw 7 different champions. GSW won 3, LAL won 2 (with two different teams, one Kobe, one LeBron), Miami won 2 while Dallas, SAS, Cleveland and Toronto won 1 each.

I don't think that saying that no more than 1-2 teams feel like they have a shot at a title is accurate.

So in this one decade
- the Kobe and Dirk rings don't count since they were before the team up era became a thing. With Dirk's one being the first year of the team up era. I genuinely think LeBron got shook since he didnt expect any resistance at all.

- 4 was just LeBron creating superteam on different teams
- 2 was KD on a superteam

- 1 was Spurs because they're the Spurs
- 1 (kawhi one) was due to injury. If no injury that was KDs ring
- 1 (Iguodala one). If no injury that was Lebrons ring

So if not for injury. Either a LeBron superteam or a KD superteam would have won every single title after 2011, barring one Spurs ring

[slick_watts]

blame the league. the thunder is incentivized to tank. no FA will sign there. DPE contracts hurt small markets more than they help. the thunder's likeliest path back to contention is accumulate value and cash it in. make the lottery even odds for the teams who miss the playoffs. then good bye tanking.

[Pharmcat]

They are blatantly tanking, I hope NBA doesn't reward them.

It’s a small market team , they will be rewarded since small market owners are up in arms of stars playing together. It’s crazy how they sit horford down with minimal backlash, and now are tanking and everyone gives them a pass. Imagine if the Lakers tried to do this