RS 20/21 - Mavs vs Bucks (9PM EST)

[dirkforpres]

Frustrating 3.5 quarters, but Porzingis was incredible and they really needed him to be.

[Pinkyring]

Dorian and kp were fantastic, if we can replace Richardson with lowry this summer we're a contender next year

[ejs78]

Big win over the 2019 Pelicans

Frustrating 3.5 quarters, but Porzingis was incredible and they really needed him to be.

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[agentofatlas]

Solid bounce back win.

[Bluelabel24]

first off about this game... love the energy and fact that KP and luka played on the 2nd night of a b2b. this is what i expect more from KP. holding him accountable only helps him. He set pretty solid screens that opened that pnr and pnp with luka giving him atleast 2-3 3s. Im not expecting him to set screens like hes Adams or Embiid out there but im expecting him to be better than his former self, the KP today should be constantly improving compared to the KP months ago.

[Pinkyring]

I was wrong about Dorian he's an excellent glue guy and im not opposed to extending him this summer on 3/30 deal, he deserves a raise. He should switch checks with powell

[Archx]

Impressive 4th Q and specially last 5 mins. KP made some big shots and even Jrich did something. Good way to bounce back. Plus at least 3 high fives between Luka and KP.

[leolozon]

My main wish right now is that Luka just works on his FTs until the end of the season. I can't see an end to his FT problem. I wonder if it could make him less aggressive too or try to avoid contact too much.

Richardson is still a good defender. I don't think the situation is that dramatic. They just need to give him less responsibility on offense and make him work on his catch and shoot some more. If he can hit around .350 from 3, he should be a positive out there.

[Archx]

I was wrong about Dorian he's an excellent glue guy and im not opposed to extending him this summer on 3/30 deal, he deserves a raise. He should switch checks with powell

Was that ever even a question??? He probably has one of the best current contracts for a role player in the entire NBA.

[ejs78]

Mavs are now 2.5GB from the Lakers

Could be 1 GB of Portland in about an hour (anyone else like these green Jazz uniforms?)

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[Pinkyring]

I was wrong about Dorian he's an excellent glue guy and im not opposed to extending him this summer on 3/30 deal, he deserves a raise. He should switch checks with powell

Was that ever even a question??? He probably has one of the best current contracts for a role player in the entire NBA.

His contract, no, i always felt he was a guy given too many minutes but he's proven his value

[Pinkyring]

Its obvious porzingis doesn't enjoy playing with luka and i can see why and why no supporting star would, he's selfish and doesn't take good shots a lot, forces **** and tries to make the spectacular play instead of the simple one, there are multiple pnrs a game between the two where kp is wide open and luka will either keep dribbling or wait til the double team leaves to go one on one instead of just feeding kp asap

[Bluelabel24]

Its obvious porzingis doesn't enjoy playing with luka and i can see why and why no supporting star would, he's selfish and doesn't take good shots a lot, forces **** and tries to make the spectacular play instead of the simple one, there are multiple pnrs a game between the two where kp is wide open and luka will either keep dribbling or wait til the double team leaves to go one on one instead of just feeding kp asap

to me it sure looks like it... what do you think the reason is for both of them?
From KPs perspective.. he might hate those stepbacks more than us fans?
From Luka's.. what can it be? i highly doubt he doesnt wanna pass, maybe its because he got used to having teammates setting solid and debilitating screens for him. in madrid games, him at trey thompkins or reyes would pnr/pnp their opponents all day.
im trying to think of it from lukas standpoint.. in his mind does he go "come on guys i need to rely on screens to maneuver and be highly effective" meanwhile heres KP and his body language of "avoid contact might get injured". or could it be that luka is also somewhat pissed that KP wont take advantage of mismatches. i remember him getting conley/George hill on a mismatch and instead of backing them down he shoots over and misses. He wont even draw contact when he manages to get his defender in the air, all those are quite the opposite of Luka's mindset out there, hes gonna draw contact everytime you give him the opportunity.

[Speadge]

Its obvious porzingis doesn't enjoy playing with luka and i can see why and why no supporting star would, he's selfish and doesn't take good shots a lot, forces **** and tries to make the spectacular play instead of the simple one, there are multiple pnrs a game between the two where kp is wide open and luka will either keep dribbling or wait til the double team leaves to go one on one instead of just feeding kp asap

Ah, nonsense.

Those opinions vary from game to a game.
And then there will be games, plenty of them, where everyone apart from Luka will sucks badly and we will win or come close to win only because of he will take matters into his own hands.
Sure, he's not perfect, no one is, and he will have some bad games, some great games, but acting like he's a problem because of some bad (or not even really bad) game every now and then is just, like said ... nonsense.
How many great games KP had this season?
Those guys need to learn to trust to each other however trust don't come out of nowhere, it needs to be earned on the court.

[arkuo]

You guys are forgetting that the team is just figuring it out and having fun. They're not expecting to win it all this year, so Cuban is not putting any pressure on them too. Just let them figure it out, punt a few seasons then compete for real in like 3 years. Luka and KP are very young. You have time.

[jpengland]

You guys are forgetting that the team is just figuring it out and having fun. They're not expecting to win it all this year, so Cuban is not putting any pressure on them too. Just let them figure it out, punt a few seasons then compete for real in like 3 years. Luka and KP are very young. You have time.

I agree, to an extent.

People get hung up on Dallas immediately winning a title. Noone has led a team to a title at such a young age. Most of the greats had to wait until their mid/late 20s.

That doesn't mean you 'punt' seasons. But people getting too hung up on being instant contenders.

[Apz]

I was so mad. Not at powell. Not at Kp. I was so mad at luka when he had them turnovers i shut down the tv, in rage went to the computer to play some, just to notice that i streamed from it so had it on one screen. It was so sloppy.

In the end, I feel we can thank our glue guys for last 2 wins. DFS, Kleber even THJ brings a lot of energy. Those guys work around the stars, playing hard and playing their role makes us win games. Spurs next, then philly iirc. Its tough but doable

[Pinkyring]

Its obvious porzingis doesn't enjoy playing with luka and i can see why and why no supporting star would, he's selfish and doesn't take good shots a lot, forces **** and tries to make the spectacular play instead of the simple one, there are multiple pnrs a game between the two where kp is wide open and luka will either keep dribbling or wait til the double team leaves to go one on one instead of just feeding kp asap

Ah, nonsense.

Those opinions vary from game to a game.
And then there will be games, plenty of them, where everyone apart from Luka will sucks badly and we will win or come close to win only because of he will take matters into his own hands.
Sure, he's not perfect, no one is, and he will have some bad games, some great games, but acting like he's a problem because of some bad (or not even really bad) game every now and then is just, like said ... nonsense.
How many great games KP had this season?
Those guys need to learn to trust to each other however trust don't come out of nowhere, it needs to be earned on the court.

Who said anything about bad games for luka, yes the rockets gsme was a an example but im speaking in general. Every night its all luka all the time and guys have to just sit and wait for him to pass to them, that works for role players, stars will have a problem with it. Main reason ive stressed adding another high level playmaker, this team won't win **** with luka going Houston harden mode.

[Mr B]

Its obvious porzingis doesn't enjoy playing with luka and i can see why and why no supporting star would, he's selfish and doesn't take good shots a lot, forces **** and tries to make the spectacular play instead of the simple one, there are multiple pnrs a game between the two where kp is wide open and luka will either keep dribbling or wait til the double team leaves to go one on one instead of just feeding kp asap

That’s a bit far. There are obviously some chemistry issues between Luka and KP but I wouldn’t say that will lead to no ever wanting to play with Luka. Luka is young and still going through the growing pains of being a Super Star in the NBA. He may need to learn to reign back his game for the betterment of the team. He’s already reigned back his game some this season. He no longer is hunting for the triple-double. He’s allowing the game to flow naturally for the most part now.

And let’s not act like KP is totally without fault. Part of the reason he’s not getting the ball is because he’s not posting up. He needs to post up and demand the ball. He needs to be more aggressive on the offensive end, and not just from 3.

Luka is one of the top 3 players in the game and without doubt the best player under 25 in the NBA. To say no one would want to play with him is asinine.


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[Pinkyring]

Its obvious porzingis doesn't enjoy playing with luka and i can see why and why no supporting star would, he's selfish and doesn't take good shots a lot, forces **** and tries to make the spectacular play instead of the simple one, there are multiple pnrs a game between the two where kp is wide open and luka will either keep dribbling or wait til the double team leaves to go one on one instead of just feeding kp asap

That’s a bit far. There are obviously some chemistry issues between Luka and KP but I wouldn’t say that will lead to no ever wanting to play with Luka. Luka is young and still going through the growing pains of being a Super Star in the NBA. He may need to learn to reign back his game for the betterment of the team. He’s already reigned back his game some this season. He no longer is hunting for the triple-double. He’s allowing the game to flow naturally for the most part now.

And let’s not act like KP is totally without fault. Part of the reason he’s not getting the ball is because he’s not posting up. He needs to post up and demand the ball. He needs to be more aggressive on the offensive end, and not just from 3.

Luka is one of the top 3 players in the game and without doubt the best player under 25 in the NBA. To say no one would want to play with him is asinine.


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Agreed 100% kp absolutely isn't blameless and there are a lot of flaws in his game that said, again luka forces 6-8 shots/passes a game when making the simple play is better and most of those are at the expense of porzingis. As for stars coming here, if you're an on ball guard, would you want to play with him? I would not. Maybe he plays this style because we don't have another high level playmaker and I can understand, nonetheless, we need one fast before this becomes the norm. Idk how he played in Europe but this style won't get it done. The shot selection and erratic turnovers are a problem. Tonight for example we're up 8 in the third he comes in, 3 straight dumb turnovers and a tech, a quick 14-0 run and it was his fault.