Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Joe Johnson workout, pg 97

[emunney]

You also can't win the NBA Championship without winning the East, but they're not the same.

Alright, I must have misunderstood you. Tell me what you meant when you said it was unfortunate that it was a waive and not a buyout.

Dude, I already said I was wrong about that.

Yeah but what did you mean when you said that? Why would it have been unfortunate if it hadn't been a buyout?

[Ruzious]

Alright, I must have misunderstood you. Tell me what you meant when you said it was unfortunate that it was a waive and not a buyout.

Dude, I already said I was wrong about that.

Yeah but what did you mean when you said that? Why would it have been unfortunate if it hadn't been a buyout?

Omg, I don't care anymore. That expression on your picture is what this conversation has been.

[tski1972]

Khris to Orlando for Bamba/Gary Harris’ $20M expiring/picks

[ShootingtheJ]

Khris to Orlando for Bamba/Gary Harris’ $20M expiring/picks

Then trade Harris and the picks for Jeremi Grant?

[-Jragon-]

We'd need to get the picks from elsewhere, perhaps with Brook and Donte?

Whoever is giving us a 1st for either of them .. I hope they are fans of advanced stats. Just wait a year and sign them instead

Teams would love to deal for Donte now to get his Bird rights. They'd need huge cap space to get him later.

Teams? Who? Houston, Indiana or Detroit love our leftovers but they won't trade their high first rounder for an average player like Donte. Good teams that have weak firsts already have SGs, he would be a backup. They are trading a 1st so they can sign Donte to big money to be their backup? No. A team would rather trade like 3 1sts for KP who still can be an All Star than to send one 1st for a non-needlemover just so they have space to sign him.

[Fotis St]

Itoudis >>>> Bud
Just fire Bud for players to wake the ef up.
**** it fire Bud and order Ham to change everything ... I mean both ends. There is still time

[slos]

Bucks don’t need to trade Middleton. The Big 3 is fine, they just need to figure it out. At the moment you can’t tell who is the PG when they are playing together. My wishful thinking is that this is a result of using the regular season just for experimenting. They all have also tough stretches when they are the guy to go in lineups with the bench players. I guess this will not be an issue in the playoffs if Bud plays them close to 40 minutes.

DDV is also a keeper imo. He can be the perfect glue guy if he becomes a bit better in every little thing he provides in the court. My biggest concern is Lopez, but I blame Bud for that. He doesn’t take full advantage of his offensive skillset and he keeps using him in matchups that it’s impossible for him to be positive.

[-Jragon-]

Bucks don’t need to trade Middleton. The Big 3 is fine, they just need to figure it out. At the moment you can’t tell who is the PG when they are playing together. My wishful thinking is that this is a result of using the regular season just for experimenting. They all have also tough stretches when they are the guy to go in lineups with the bench players. I guess this will not be an issue in the playoffs if Bud plays them close to 40 minutes.

DDV is also a keeper imo. He can be the perfect glue guy if he becomes a bit better in every little thing he provides in the court. My biggest concern is Lopez, but I blame Bud for that. He doesn’t take full advantage of his offensive skillset and he keeps using him in matchups that it’s impossible for him to be positive.

If anyone thinks that the Nets are sitting in dark rooms watching Donte highlights scared that he's going to start for us against them in the playoffs, I don't know how to help you. They will be laughing their a$$es off if we trot him out there as our playoff starter against them. They aren't scared of his offensive or defense at all.

[MKE_Beers]

Khris/Donte/Hou 2nd for Dame could make sense IF he aska out and is interested in MKE. It would leave us impossibly thin at the wing. We'd need to resign PJ and pick up a Wes Matthews type on the cheap (Avery Bradley? bring Wes back?) but I'd jump at that chance. We'd never be lacking for scoring with Dame and Giannis plus our D wouldnt suffer as much with Jrue/PJ/Giannis out there in crunch time.

[emunney]

Dude, I already said I was wrong about that.

Yeah but what did you mean when you said that? Why would it have been unfortunate if it hadn't been a buyout?

Omg, I don't care anymore. That expression on your picture is what this conversation has been.

Yeah makes sense. Conversation adjourned. Feel free to revisit at a later date if you figure out what you were trying to say.

[emunney]

In case anybody else cares, definitely not Ruzious, whether someone is bought out or not has no bearing on whether they're exposed to waivers when released. Would have made zero difference in our ability to get Birch.

[humanrefutation]

If Dame ever became available, I think I'd trade both Jrue and Middleton for him. Truthfully. I'd roll with Dame, Giannis, and fill out the rest of the roster however possible.

I've been stanning for Dame for years now, but I can't think of a player in this league I'd rather pair with Giannis. That's got Kobe-Shaq dynasty written all over it, with the exception that their egos won't ultimately blow it up.

[KidA24]

If Dame ever became available, I think I'd trade both Jrue and Middleton for him. Truthfully. I'd roll with Dame, Giannis, and fill out the rest of the roster however possible.

I've been stanning for Dame for years now, but I can't think of a player in this league I'd rather pair with Giannis. That's got Kobe-Shaq dynasty written all over it, with the exception that their egos won't ultimately blow it up.

Jokic is the one guy I'd want over Dame.

[DingleJerry]

If Dame ever became available, I think I'd trade both Jrue and Middleton for him. Truthfully. I'd roll with Dame, Giannis, and fill out the rest of the roster however possible.

I've been stanning for Dame for years now, but I can't think of a player in this league I'd rather pair with Giannis. That's got Kobe-Shaq dynasty written all over it, with the exception that their egos won't ultimately blow it up.

Yup, I was counting the days until Dame demanded out of Por to give us a chance at him. Granted, I assumed he'd still end up elsewhere but at least we'd have a chance at the perfect pairing. Of course he turns out to be the one guy to make a point of being loyal (before Giannis).

[crkone]

In case anybody else cares, definitely not Ruzious, whether someone is bought out or not has no bearing on whether they're exposed to waivers when released. Would have made zero difference in our ability to get Birch.

Maybe he was trying to make a differentiation between being waived and not caring what team you go to and being waived and already having a gentleman's agreement.

[humanrefutation]

If Dame ever became available, I think I'd trade both Jrue and Middleton for him. Truthfully. I'd roll with Dame, Giannis, and fill out the rest of the roster however possible.

I've been stanning for Dame for years now, but I can't think of a player in this league I'd rather pair with Giannis. That's got Kobe-Shaq dynasty written all over it, with the exception that their egos won't ultimately blow it up.

Jokic is the one guy I'd want over Dame.

Jokic is great, but I think he'd operate too often in the same spaces as Giannis.

[humanrefutation]

In case anybody else cares, definitely not Ruzious, whether someone is bought out or not has no bearing on whether they're exposed to waivers when released. Would have made zero difference in our ability to get Birch.

Maybe he was trying to make a differentiation between being waived and not caring what team you go to and being waived and already having a gentleman's agreement.

Are there financial implications to being bought out prior to waiver versus just being waived? If a team picks up a guy on waivers who was bought out by the waiving team (presumably at a discounted price), would it be cheaper than if they picked up a guy off waivers who was just waived?

[skones]

In case anybody else cares, definitely not Ruzious, whether someone is bought out or not has no bearing on whether they're exposed to waivers when released. Would have made zero difference in our ability to get Birch.

Maybe he was trying to make a differentiation between being waived and not caring what team you go to and being waived and already having a gentleman's agreement.

Are there financial implications to being bought out prior to waiver versus just being waived? If a team picks up a guy on waivers who was bought out by the waiving team (presumably at a discounted price), would it be cheaper than if they picked up a guy off waivers who was just waived?

If a player is picked up off waivers, the team picking him off waivers acquires that player's contract. A player sits on waivers for 48 hours. If no one picks that player up off waivers, they are an UFA.

If a player is bought out, that player is now an unrestricted free agent and is free to sign for any amount with a team of their choosing.

There is no such thing as a guy who was bought out sitting on waivers.

[crowhead76]

Maybe he was trying to make a differentiation between being waived and not caring what team you go to and being waived and already having a gentleman's agreement.

Are there financial implications to being bought out prior to waiver versus just being waived? If a team picks up a guy on waivers who was bought out by the waiving team (presumably at a discounted price), would it be cheaper than if they picked up a guy off waivers who was just waived?

If a player is picked up off waivers, the team picking him off waivers acquires that player's contract. A player sits on waivers for 48 hours. If no one picks that player up off waivers, they are an UFA.

If a player is bought out, that player is now an unrestricted free agent and is free to sign for any amount with a team of their choosing.

There is no such thing as a guy who was bought out sitting on waivers.

This is incorrect.

Blake Griffin was bought out and signed with the Nets after he cleared waivers. He was bought out on March 5th and sat on waivers for 48 hours.

Forward Blake Griffin has cleared free agency waivers and the six-time NBA all-star has signed with the Brooklyn Nets, according to ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.Mar 7, 2021

There is no such thing as a player not sitting on waivers, tampering however seems to be completely allowed during the buyout processs.

[Ruzious]

In case anybody else cares, definitely not Ruzious, whether someone is bought out or not has no bearing on whether they're exposed to waivers when released. Would have made zero difference in our ability to get Birch.

Gotta say - I'm a tax guy, and I have maybe 15 minutes a day when I'm awake and not working at this time o year. I literally pulled an all-nighter last night - which I probably can't do anymore. Coming here is the only time I can relax, and you ruined that - for nothing.