WTF can figure out our rotations???

Hello Brooklyn · Post #21 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Fri Apr 9, 2021 1:56 am

Basileus777 wrote:Playing KD all of his minutes at the 3 would be such a tactical misuse of him, doing it to accommodate some role players in our front court would be a crime. I don't get the obsession with benching our 4th best player either. People are overthinking it, our four best players are going to start, close, and play heavy minutes.

How on Earth is it a misuse of KD to play the 3? Its the position he played his whole career.

These positions are largely arbitrary in Nash's system anywah.

Durant is clearly capable of playing alongside Griffin and Claxton.

ecuhus1981 · Post #22 » by **ecuhus1981** » Fri Apr 9, 2021 5:22 am

The health, rest, form and fitness of the players will remain fluid, and therefore so will the "regular" rotation. This is one area in which I agree wholeheartedly with Nash's approach. I used to think that the Big Three Joe and DJ were the only guarantees night to night, and everyone else was situational. Now we know that even DJ's role was not carved in stone.

Hypothetically, if everyone is 100%, here's my thought on playoff minutes. You'll notice that not every position adds up to 48, so you can infer that those players moonlight at other positions. I do think that Spencer will be healthy and playing by mid-May, and will lead our 2nd unit in the postseason, BTW:

Harden (34) - Dinwiddie (18)
Irving (32) - Shamet (16)
Harris (28) - Green (20)
Durant (30) - Griffin (14)
Aldridge (26) - Claxton (22)

Brown leads the Stay Ready group, a ridiculous luxury. In close games, Blake and/or Landry get squeezed out as we shift to a more traditional, tighter and more defensively sound rotation.

andrewww · Post #23 » by **andrewww** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:22 am

ecuhus1981 wrote:The health, rest, form and fitness of the players will remain fluid, and therefore so will the "regular" rotation. This is one area in which I agree wholeheartedly with Nash's approach. I used to think that the Big Three Joe and DJ were the only guarantees night to night, and everyone else was situational. Now we know that even DJ's role was not carved in stone.

Hypothetically, if everyone is 100%, here's my thought on playoff minutes. You'll notice that not every position adds up to 48, so you can infer that those players moonlight at other positions. I do think that Spencer will be healthy and playing by mid-May, and will lead our 2nd unit in the postseason, BTW:

Harden (34) - Dinwiddie (18)
Irving (32) - Shamet (16)
Harris (28) - Green (20)
Durant (30) - Griffin (14)
Aldridge (26) - Claxton (22)

Brown leads the Stay Ready group, a ridiculous luxury. In close games, Blake and/or Landry get squeezed out as we shift to a more traditional, tighter and more defensively sound rotation.

Personally Im not sold on Shamet being part of the top 10 rotation. I see him as part of the stay ready group and consider Brown ahead of him in the rotation, and TJ would be my first choice back up to Harden at PG with Dinwiddie out.

Harden - Dinwiddie - TJ
Kyrie - Brown - Shamet
Harris - Green
Durant - Griffin
LMA - Claxton - Jordan

In the event of a shortened 7 or 8 man rotation, I project Dinwiddie (if he returns) along with Green/Claxton in addition to the starting 5.

Green is a superb role player because he can hit 3s at a consistent clip now while being flexible enough to defend any frontcourt position.

Claxton’s defensive versatility will mean he plays meaningful minutes depending on lineups.

LOUiS-D · Post #24 » by **LOUiS-D** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:01 am

All 5 Positions - Claxton (240)

Prokorov · Post #25 » by **Prokorov** » Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:25 am

I dont care what else happens with the rotations but if anyone but Claxton leads us in center minutes the rest of the year im going to effing lose it

Kiddlovesnets · Post #26 » by **Kiddlovesnets** » Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:42 am

Need to have DJ back into the lineup, at least play against physical big men who cant shoot. DJ played well against Giannis and Harrell, he could've been the difference to stop Drummond too. We have Aldridge now but doesnt mean we have to play him 25-30 mins every game, DJ should see some playing time on the floor depending on the teams we play. But anyway, Nash has a long way to go figuring out how coaching problem, he has only this year's playoffs to learn.

Shark · Post #27 » by **Shark** » Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:43 am

It ridiculous that Claxton's minutes are down to the 15-17 minute range after we traded for LMA after he was playing 23-26 minutes for a good stretch. I don't care if LMA starts, but when we need stops Claxton should be out there. He should be getting minutes with Kyrie and KD. He's also played well with Blake, but Nash isn't exploiting that pairing as much as he should.

Prokorov · Post #28 » by **Prokorov** » Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:54 am

Shark wrote:It ridiculous that Claxton's minutes are down to the 15-17 minute range after we traded for LMA after he was playing 23-26 minutes for a good stretch. I don't care if LMA starts, but when we need stops Claxton should be out there. He should be getting minutes with Kyrie and KD. He's also played well with Blake, but Nash isn't exploiting that pairing as much as he should.

I'm shocked no one else is really upset Claxton isnt starting/playing a ton more. I was one of the biggest guys who wasnt on the Claxton bandwagon and even i want to see him play more with how good he has played

TLC has been getting more minutes then him lately. TLC!??!!

Did people not like claxton and just really hate DJ and now that he is sitting then dont care if he plays?

Hello Brooklyn · Post #29 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:10 am

Prokorov wrote:
Shark wrote:It ridiculous that Claxton's minutes are down to the 15-17 minute range after we traded for LMA after he was playing 23-26 minutes for a good stretch. I don't care if LMA starts, but when we need stops Claxton should be out there. He should be getting minutes with Kyrie and KD. He's also played well with Blake, but Nash isn't exploiting that pairing as much as he should.

I'm shocked no one else is really upset Claxton isnt starting/playing a ton more. I was one of the biggest guys who wasnt on the Claxton bandwagon and even i want to see him play more with how good he has played

TLC has been getting more minutes then him lately. TLC!??!!

Did people not like claxton and just really hate DJ and now that he is sitting then dont care if he plays?

Claxton needs to play 25-30 minutes a night. Anything else is inexcusable.

mycorrizae · Post #30 » by **mycorrizae** » Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:43 am

Shark wrote:It ridiculous that Claxton's minutes are down to the 15-17 minute range after we traded for LMA after he was playing 23-26 minutes for a good stretch. I don't care if LMA starts, but when we need stops Claxton should be out there. He should be getting minutes with Kyrie and KD. He's also played well with Blake, but Nash isn't exploiting that pairing as much as he should.

I'm pretty pissed about it. I'm trying to give Nash the benefit of the doubt and say that he's just trying to get a feel for if LMA can hang or not, but its been pretty awful to see him playing less minutes than Griffin or LMA.

Claxton needs the minutes to develop AND he's the best option, it doesn't make much sense to me unless Nash's hands are tied as far as giving LMA minutes.

MrDollarBills · Post #31 » by **MrDollarBills** » Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:40 pm

Last night would have been a good time to play DeAndre Jordan. Aldridge was getting bodied by Drummond. If the Nets think we are getting out of the east without having to utilize Jordan's big frame they are delusional.

Also, Claxton playing only 15 mins these past few games is appalling.

Tha King · Post #32 » by **Tha King** » Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:58 pm

The way your roster is constructed I think you'll have to go bigger to play your best players. Most of your depth is in the frontcourt that features Green and Claxton who might actually be your two most important role players with their versatility. Also think DJ will be needed come playoff time.

I think what can help with minutes distribution for the bigs is having Claxton get some of his time at PF (likely next to Aldridge where spacing wouldn't be that much of an issue).

Harden (35) - Kyrie (13)
Kyrie (20) - Harris (28)
KD (33) - Green (11) - Harris (4)
Green (15) - Griffin (21) - Claxton (12)
Aldridge (25) - Claxton (13) - DJ (10)

Hello Brooklyn · Post #33 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:19 am

Spencer is all but saying he will be back for the playoffs. At this point I think its more likely than not that he plays.

Hello Brooklyn · Post #34 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:23 am

If Dinwiddie comes back do we have to cut someone?

I don't get how these things work.

Stone · Post #35 » by **Stone** » Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:23 am

I'm don't think taking DeAndre completely out of the rotation is a good idea. We could have used him against Drummond last night.

Whiskey Slick · Post #36 » by **Whiskey Slick** » Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:02 am

Stone wrote:I'm don't think taking DeAndre completely out of the rotation is a good idea. We could have used him against Drummond last night.

As a person and a professional I have nothing but admiration for DAJ. He's even a better player than most Nets fans give him credit for being in my view, though not as good as LMA and Claxton, offensively or defensively. So if they couldn't guard or out-rebound Drummond in the post, there's no way DAJ could have either. Probably the biggest part of the reason he lost his job to Claxton and LMA is because he's such a liability on defense.

That said, IMO it will be DAJ or TLC who is cut if Dinwiddie is activated.

Tough decision because TLC is insurance for Dinwiddie and DAJ is insurance for both Centers.

If we're keeping Alize then he can replace TLC as wing insurance, so it's probably TLC who gets cut.

It's a tough decision and there is no RIGHT ANSWER, depends on who gets hurt?

I'm glad I don't have to make it.

Whiskey Slick · Post #37 » by **Whiskey Slick** » Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:07 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:If Dinwiddie comes back do we have to cut someone?

I don't get how these things work.

I'm assuming the answer is YES, but I'm the worst person to ask about the rules.

I still don't understand how two-way contracts work? :noway:

Whiskey Slick · Post #38 » by **Whiskey Slick** » Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:27 am

First tell me if Kyrie is showing up for all the post season games, then I can project a rotation.

Right now Kyrie has a job like my Uncle used to have. Not gonna lie, he was connected to the mob, long time ago, but he had what they used to call a no-show job just to appease his parole officer. So basically he showed up when he felt like it, because it wouldn't look good to never show-up, but only when he felt like it.

When you think about it, his job wasn't a hell of a lot different than Kyrie's.

Hey, it's a great gig if you can get it.

Hello Brooklyn · Post #39 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:28 am

Whiskey Slick wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:If Dinwiddie comes back do we have to cut someone?

I don't get how these things work.

I'm assuming the answer is YES, but I'm the worst person to ask about the rules.

I still don't understand how two-way contracts work?

If we have to cut someone I think Chiozza.

Kyrie/Harden/Dinwiddie can handle the ball handling duties.

TLC can still be a big body to use for defense sometimes. Jordan we could need for the right matchup like a Drummond.

Whiskey Slick · Post #40 » by **Whiskey Slick** » Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:33 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Whiskey Slick wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:If Dinwiddie comes back do we have to cut someone?

I don't get how these things work.

I'm assuming the answer is YES, but I'm the worst person to ask about the rules.

I still don't understand how two-way contracts work?

If we have to cut someone I think Chiozza.

Kyrie/Harden/Dinwiddie can handle the ball handling duties.

TLC can still be a big body to use for defense sometimes. Jordan we could need for the right matchup like a Drummond.

I'm not sure if cutting a two-way is suffice for activating Dinwiddie to the 15?

I could be wrong, but I think you have to cut someone from the 15 to activate Dinwiddie?