PG: Trent Career high

[Jadoogar]

This team is pretty dreadful at tanking properly.

Agreed, but organizations tank not the coaches and the players. Heck the team is decimated with injuries and they still win because the East is really that bad. Cleveland has the worst defense I've seen in a long while. Hard to lose to opponents like that.

The team basically everything they could to tank today. No Kyle, FVV or Siakam. What more do you want them to do?
Cavs are garbage and Trent was out of his might.

Can't lose 'em all

[WeThe2019Champs]

Leaving the tank in the dust.

[Syd-TK3]

Probably gonna give Trent the exact same contract as OG

[Jadoogar]

The egocentric players sit and suddenly the entire team plays free and with energy.

Lets also keep in mind, the majority of those players are playing for their NBA careers - outside of OG, Trent and Flynn.

Let's also keep in mind that this was the freaking Cavs

[Dalek]

44 pts, 17-19 FG, 7-9 3PT, +31

And I'm too lazy to google this, but can someone explain GTJ's contract situation? Is it up at the end of the year? And if so, will he be a RFA?

Yes, his contract is up and he is an RFA. The max we can sign him to is 25% of the cap. Let's hope for a OG type of deal at this stage.

Trent has been such a fun guy to watch as he just brings positive energy -- of course it goes overboard when he is scoring like that. Same with guys like Yuta and Bembry. Those guys just cut and make some smart hustle plays. Gillespie seems in that mold, but he is a rock solid bruiser in the post and on the high screens. I hope my name for him sticks: Sheddie Freddie.

The reason I mention positivity is that despite an odd year with everything against Toronto, this is a really good ending with some hope. Even Malachi looks like he is finally settling in and playing well.

I have no idea what becomes of this team when Kyle, FVV, Siakam and Birch are all playing, but we now know there is depth. Hopefully waiving Baynes comes next.

[Jadoogar]

Not happy about these wins. It's getting too close to the end of the season to be racking up these senseless wins. We gotta decide whether we're commiting to the tank or not.

Raptors sat 3 starters today. How much more are you going to "commit to the tank" before SIlver starts fining re You can't tell the players to go out and shoot from halfcourt every time.

Raptors (the organization) tried their hardest to lose this game, but the Cavs are just really bad

[h4rrison]

GTJ is ballin. Any chance we get outbid?

[WeThe2019Champs]

Baynes is big for nothing, hope he sits out rest of the season.

[Metallikid]

44 pts, 17-19 FG, 7-9 3PT, +31

And I'm too lazy to google this, but can someone explain GTJ's contract situation? Is it up at the end of the year? And if so, will he be a RFA?

Yes, his contract is up and he is an RFA. The max we can sign him to is 25% of the cap. Let's hope for a OG type of deal at this stage.

Trent has been such a fun guy to watch as he just brings positive energy -- of course it goes overboard when he is scoring like that. Same with guys like Yuta and Bembry. Those guys just cut and make some smart hustle plays. Gillespie seems in that mold, but he is a rock solid bruiser in the post and on the high screens. I hope my name for him sticks: Sheddie Freddie.

The reason I mention positivity is that despite an odd year with everything against Toronto, this is a really good ending with some hope. Even Malachi looks like he is finally settling in and playing well.

I have no idea what becomes of this team when Kyle, FVV, Siakam and Birch are all playing, but we now know there is depth. Hopefully waiving Baynes comes next.

Can't give him OGs contract or we may as well have kept Norm.

[dkb9696]

GTJ is ballin. Any chance we get outbid?

Could get the Otto Porter Jr. overpay. GTJ has his stinkers, but I like that he defends and he has shown he can shoot in many different ways.

[C_Money]

44 pts, 17-19 FG, 7-9 3PT, +31

And I'm too lazy to google this, but can someone explain GTJ's contract situation? Is it up at the end of the year? And if so, will he be a RFA?

Yes, his contract is up and he is an RFA. The max we can sign him to is 25% of the cap. Let's hope for a OG type of deal at this stage.

Trent has been such a fun guy to watch as he just brings positive energy -- of course it goes overboard when he is scoring like that. Same with guys like Yuta and Bembry. Those guys just cut and make some smart hustle plays. Gillespie seems in that mold, but he is a rock solid bruiser in the post and on the high screens. I hope my name for him sticks: Sheddie Freddie.

The reason I mention positivity is that despite an odd year with everything against Toronto, this is a really good ending with some hope. Even Malachi looks like he is finally settling in and playing well.

I have no idea what becomes of this team when Kyle, FVV, Siakam and Birch are all playing, but we now know there is depth. Hopefully waiving Baynes comes next.

Can't give him OGs contract or we may as well have kept Norm.

Well you can’t let him walk either or that trade turns into a disaster. We pretty much have to re-sign him and the way Trent talks in interviews its as if he knows he’s going to be here next season.

[Chandan]

trent is our TJ Warren

[pingpongrac]

44 pts, 17-19 FG, 7-9 3PT, +31

And I'm too lazy to google this, but can someone explain GTJ's contract situation? Is it up at the end of the year? And if so, will he be a RFA?

Yes, his contract is up and he is an RFA. The max we can sign him to is 25% of the cap. Let's hope for a OG type of deal at this stage.

Trent has been such a fun guy to watch as he just brings positive energy -- of course it goes overboard when he is scoring like that. Same with guys like Yuta and Bembry. Those guys just cut and make some smart hustle plays. Gillespie seems in that mold, but he is a rock solid bruiser in the post and on the high screens. I hope my name for him sticks: Sheddie Freddie.

The reason I mention positivity is that despite an odd year with everything against Toronto, this is a really good ending with some hope. Even Malachi looks like he is finally settling in and playing well.

I have no idea what becomes of this team when Kyle, FVV, Siakam and Birch are all playing, but we now know there is depth. Hopefully waiving Baynes comes next.

Can't give him OGs contract or we may as well have kept Norm.

Nah. We've already seen almost as many highs from Trent in his 9 games as a Raptor as we did from Powell before the trade this season. ~18M for a 22-year-old Trent is also much better than +20M for a 28-year-old Powell. Not to mention we'd have moves to make before/after signing Trent to that contract while we'd basically be capped with Norm and one more player for the MLE.

Trent's numbers thus far in Toronto have been very similar to Powell this year with a decrease in efficiency but with less turnovers and better defence too.

Trent: 17.9 PPG (57 TS%), 3.4 REB, 1.7 AST, 0.8 TOV
Powell: 19.2 PPG (63 TS%), 3.1 REB, 1.7 AST 1.8 TOV

I like how Trent hasn't been afraid of the moment. He missed the three late against the Suns in his debut, but he also hit the buzzer-beating shot against the Wizards and carried our offence against the Cavs and Thunder. He just seems to have a very calm demeanor where he's rarely off-balance or rushing a shot, and he's always ready.

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[Metallikid]

Yes, his contract is up and he is an RFA. The max we can sign him to is 25% of the cap. Let's hope for a OG type of deal at this stage.

Trent has been such a fun guy to watch as he just brings positive energy -- of course it goes overboard when he is scoring like that. Same with guys like Yuta and Bembry. Those guys just cut and make some smart hustle plays. Gillespie seems in that mold, but he is a rock solid bruiser in the post and on the high screens. I hope my name for him sticks: Sheddie Freddie.

The reason I mention positivity is that despite an odd year with everything against Toronto, this is a really good ending with some hope. Even Malachi looks like he is finally settling in and playing well.

I have no idea what becomes of this team when Kyle, FVV, Siakam and Birch are all playing, but we now know there is depth. Hopefully waiving Baynes comes next.

Can't give him OGs contract or we may as well have kept Norm.

Nah. We've already seen almost as many highs from Trent in his 9 games as a Raptor as we did from Powell before the trade this season. ~18M for a 22-year-old Trent is also much better than +20M for a 28-year-old Powell. Not to mention we'd have moves to make before/after signing Trent to that contract while we'd basically be capped with Norm and one more player for the MLE.

Trent's numbers thus far in Toronto have been very similar to Powell this year with a decrease in efficiency but with less turnovers and better defence too.

Trent: 17.9 PPG (57 TS%), 3.4 REB, 1.7 AST, 0.8 TOV
Powell: 19.2 PPG (63 TS%), 3.1 REB, 1.7 AST 1.8 TOV

I like how Trent hasn't been afraid of the moment. He missed the three late against the Suns in his debut, but he also hit the buzzer-beating shot against the Wizards and carried our offence against the Cavs and Thunder. He just seems to have a very calm demeanor where he's rarely off-balance or rushing a shot, and he's always ready.

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That's skewed by two really high scoring games. Norm's last 30 games for us he was averaging like 25/3/2 on insane shooting.

[Dalek]

Can't give him OGs contract or we may as well have kept Norm.

Nah. We've already seen almost as many highs from Trent in his 9 games as a Raptor as we did from Powell before the trade this season. ~18M for a 22-year-old Trent is also much better than +20M for a 28-year-old Powell. Not to mention we'd have moves to make before/after signing Trent to that contract while we'd basically be capped with Norm and one more player for the MLE.

Trent's numbers thus far in Toronto have been very similar to Powell this year with a decrease in efficiency but with less turnovers and better defence too.

Trent: 17.9 PPG (57 TS%), 3.4 REB, 1.7 AST, 0.8 TOV
Powell: 19.2 PPG (63 TS%), 3.1 REB, 1.7 AST 1.8 TOV

I like how Trent hasn't been afraid of the moment. He missed the three late against the Suns in his debut, but he also hit the buzzer-beating shot against the Wizards and carried our offence against the Cavs and Thunder. He just seems to have a very calm demeanor where he's rarely off-balance or rushing a shot, and he's always ready.

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That's skewed by two really high scoring games. Norm's last 30 games for us he was averaging like 25/3/2 on insane shooting.

Norm is a better player right now and could command more than Trent.

Regardless, I like Trent Jr. more because there is more growth possible and we get him going into his prime years.

Norm will be in his 30s as his next contract ends. For a guy who relies on his athleticism and gets banged up a lot in his career, I think the better value is Trent Jr.

[pingpongrac]

Can't give him OGs contract or we may as well have kept Norm.

Nah. We've already seen almost as many highs from Trent in his 9 games as a Raptor as we did from Powell before the trade this season. ~18M for a 22-year-old Trent is also much better than +20M for a 28-year-old Powell. Not to mention we'd have moves to make before/after signing Trent to that contract while we'd basically be capped with Norm and one more player for the MLE.

Trent's numbers thus far in Toronto have been very similar to Powell this year with a decrease in efficiency but with less turnovers and better defence too.

Trent: 17.9 PPG (57 TS%), 3.4 REB, 1.7 AST, 0.8 TOV
Powell: 19.2 PPG (63 TS%), 3.1 REB, 1.7 AST 1.8 TOV

I like how Trent hasn't been afraid of the moment. He missed the three late against the Suns in his debut, but he also hit the buzzer-beating shot against the Wizards and carried our offence against the Cavs and Thunder. He just seems to have a very calm demeanor where he's rarely off-balance or rushing a shot, and he's always ready.

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That's skewed by two really high scoring games. Norm's last 30 games for us he was averaging like 25/3/2 on insane shooting.

No doubt Powell was playing at an elite scoring level for two months. Powell's high-scoring games felt a lot like empty calories more often than not though (we lost his 4 highest-scoring games, 2 of which were blowouts) and he did very little else, as has been the case his entire career (REB% and AST% have actually been declining since his first few years).

Long term, there should be no doubt this trade was a win even if it results in us paying Trent 18-20M/year. Powell likely commands at least a few M/year more while being 5+ years older and showing absolutely no improvement on the defensive end or in his playmaking thus far. Hard to imagine he suddenly makes the leap to being an even average playmaker at the SG/SF position and his knack for mental errors likely won't dissipate either considering he's a 6-year vet now.

[Scott Hall]

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[TD2FutureStar]

Request for name change to GTJ2FutureStar. Some mod make it happen. Tia

It would just be GT2

I like the ring of it with the J in there

[tecumseh18]

Man, if Trent just has a normal 18-22 point game, Raps lose. Or has a 30 point game and Yuta has his normal 5 point game and Raps lose.

Meanwhile, Wizards, OKC (lol), Kings and Pistons all lose. Bad, bad day for the tank. Masai must be tearing Bobby's hair out. It's clear what the plan is. But WTF ya gonna do?

[KO7]

GTJ is ballin. Any chance we get outbid?

No idea what their cap situation is, but someone mentioned in the General Board that Pelicans should make a run at stealing GTJ. Imagine if they get rid of Bledsoe and GTJ slots in with Lonzo, Ingram, Zion, and Adams/Hayes moving forward? Scary core that’ll be a problem for years to come. GTJ’s perimeter shooting fits in way better for them than what Bledsoe gives them.