Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Joe Johnson workout, pg 97

[-Jragon-]

The only SG ranking lists I found were from before the season, they don't count.

Any team that gets DDV would be willing to match 60/4, he is worth that. I wouldn't have much of a problem paying him that from the Bucks.

Why would a contender not want DDV if they can fit him lol? He's not that much worse of a player than Bogdan is right now, and Bogdan gets 18m. If I had to guess I'd say he ends being better in a year or 2.

A losing team would probably give up a pick around 10 overall for him. This is because DDV is a proven good young NBA player - this has value. A draft pick is a mystery box.

Lost in all this is the fact that DDV is still getting better. Any team that trades for him would be trading for him knowing that he is getting better at every part of basketball.

DDV worth 4/60? Lol. No way.

I bet DDV could fetch a 1st rounder between 15-20 at best.

Landry Shamet landed a late first, DDV is 3 times the player. His next contract will be for $80 million or more.

Holy Balls bro you managed to miss the point yet again. Shamet had 2 years on his rookie deal like Donte did last summer and he also could have gotten a first back. This summer a team trading for him has a messy RFA right ahead next year, not much evaluation time so he lost value. That changes if he goes off in the playoffs but as of now it's what it is. My original point was Donte's value was highest last summer.

[ShootingtheJ]

DDV worth 4/60? Lol. No way.

I bet DDV could fetch a 1st rounder between 15-20 at best.

Landry Shamet landed a late first, DDV is 3 times the player. His next contract will be for $80 million or more.

Holy Balls bro you managed to miss the point yet again. Shamet had 2 years on his rookie deal like Donte did last summer and he also could have gotten a first back. This summer a team trading for him has a messy RFA right ahead next year, not much evaluation time so he lost value. That changes if he goes off in the playoffs but as of now it's what it is. My original point was Donte's value was highest last summer.

I didn't miss anything, Shamet isn't nearly the player Donte is, and Donte continues to improve. There's no messy RFA coming up with Donte. He's really good, so you match, or finish his extension before that.

Also, Donte has 2 more years before he's a RFA.

[ShootingtheJ]

I feel bad for any team that pays him that amount of money. Franchise crippling contract.

Getting a playmaking SG that can shoot and defend is franchise crippling? A player who consistently makes his team dramatically better? Where's the bad part?

Paying him $20M per is yes. He’s a fine player, but nothing he does makes our team dramatically better. Put him on a roster where he’s more than the 5th option, without playing next to 3 all-stars - and his advanced numbers will drop significantly. In fact, they already have compared to last year when he was the 6th man.

The Bucks are 9 points better with Donte on the floor, if that's because of who he plays with, why don't others have the same net rating?

Also, his advanced numbers are not dropping.

[Matches Malone]

Cool story on Zora.

So the Bucks are amazing. And I have so many women and men in positions of power that believe in me and have believed in me, even before I believed in myself at times. And kudos to Peter Feigin and Jim Paschke. They know my love of storytelling and my determination just to be great and so they wanted to give me opportunities to continue to grow, and continue to learn. And so I’ve been doing mock games with Steve Novak throughout the season, just to get better at everything. So, yeah, there was a lot of preparation that went into this.

I just really want to highlight what Jim has done. I’m so aware of the village that I have around me. And that obviously includes a lot of family and friends, but what Jim Paschke has been to me in the past few years is the epitome of a male ally, and somebody seeing things for you before you even see them for yourself. Jim is just so amazing as a mentor and as a friend. And yeah, I mean, all those practice sessions? Jim has watched every single one of them and given me feedback, in addition to his own job, which he is amazing at and puts so much time into. So, everyone needs to know how amazing Jim Paschke is because he doesn’t have to be and he is.

[thonnisbeastley]

Getting a playmaking SG that can shoot and defend is franchise crippling? A player who consistently makes his team dramatically better? Where's the bad part?

Paying him $20M per is yes. He’s a fine player, but nothing he does makes our team dramatically better. Put him on a roster where he’s more than the 5th option, without playing next to 3 all-stars - and his advanced numbers will drop significantly. In fact, they already have compared to last year when he was the 6th man.

The Bucks are 9 points better with Donte on the floor, if that's because of who he plays with, why don't others have the same net rating?

Also, his advanced numbers are not dropping.

They certainly are down compared to last year. Especially his VORP.

[Fotis St]

My summer move would be ...
Fire Bud and trade Khris + Brook even if we win a Championship.
Always sell high.
Hire Masai Ujiri , give him the keys of the Franchise.
He knows how to sell, buy and negotiate

[Rstuedes24]

Cool story on Zora.

So the Bucks are amazing. And I have so many women and men in positions of power that believe in me and have believed in me, even before I believed in myself at times. And kudos to Peter Feigin and Jim Paschke. They know my love of storytelling and my determination just to be great and so they wanted to give me opportunities to continue to grow, and continue to learn. And so I’ve been doing mock games with Steve Novak throughout the season, just to get better at everything. So, yeah, there was a lot of preparation that went into this.

I just really want to highlight what Jim has done. I’m so aware of the village that I have around me. And that obviously includes a lot of family and friends, but what Jim Paschke has been to me in the past few years is the epitome of a male ally, and somebody seeing things for you before you even see them for yourself. Jim is just so amazing as a mentor and as a friend. And yeah, I mean, all those practice sessions? Jim has watched every single one of them and given me feedback, in addition to his own job, which he is amazing at and puts so much time into. So, everyone needs to know how amazing Jim Paschke is because he doesn’t have to be and he is.

Jim seems like such a great person all around and I think some people joke too much about his ability to broadcast. I think he does pretty good most of the time.

[FrieAaron]

Anyone who watches other teams on leaguepass or some of the newbies or other play-by-play guys we've brought in should know that Paschke is actually quite good, and he's developed nice chemistry with Marques.

[Baddy Chuck]

Anyone who watches other teams on leaguepass or some of the newbies or other play-by-play guys we've brought in should know that Paschke is actually quite good, and he's developed nice chemistry with Marques.

Once Kohl/Johnny Mac left he was able to drop the musky act and just call basketball.

[raferfenix]

Maybe there’s nothing to worry about PJ Tucker barely playing for us so far.

That move was all about the playoffs of course. And the Bucks resting other guys shows we are taking a long game approach during this part of the season.

Ready to see Tucker out there though if only to assuage nerves we had another underwhelming deadline.

[-Jragon-]

Landry Shamet landed a late first, DDV is 3 times the player. His next contract will be for $80 million or more.

Holy Balls bro you managed to miss the point yet again. Shamet had 2 years on his rookie deal like Donte did last summer and he also could have gotten a first back. This summer a team trading for him has a messy RFA right ahead next year, not much evaluation time so he lost value. That changes if he goes off in the playoffs but as of now it's what it is. My original point was Donte's value was highest last summer.

I didn't miss anything, Shamet isn't nearly the player Donte is, and Donte continues to improve. There's no messy RFA coming up with Donte. He's really good, so you match, or finish his extension before that.

Also, Donte has 2 more years before he's a RFA.

In 22/23 my understanding is we can choose to offer him 6 mill qualifying offer then he can accept offers from other teams . That would be 1 year. So his salary and contract length will be less than optimal.

[Neuromancer56]

Drummond looks like he has something left in the tank after destroying the Nets. Kinda was hoping the Bucks would've gotten him.

[DingleJerry]

Props to the buy low on Bamba camp here, sure seems you were onto something. Can't say that was me, when others brought it up I was in agreeance as a heck why not take a chance. I'd be curious if we talked to them about him at all and how hard they tried.

Also, I know haven't been on much lately but liking the look of Teague so far too. Can definitely see him being a more important piece than he should be in the playoffs. Probably a stretch but I'd be curious about staggering lineups by having him start over DDV. If you can get him going maybe some teams you could go with a small lineup like Giannis/KM/DDV/Teague/Jrue to close. For sure not vs Philly but seems feasible vs everyone else in the east. And I know that's a leap for Teague and he hasn't shown he's that capable yet, just saying I'd give him some burn the next few weeks and really see if you can unlock a George Hill type stretch at the right time.

[giannis and 1]

My summer move would be ...
Fire Bud and trade Khris + Brook even if we win a Championship.
Always sell high.
Hire Masai Ujiri , give him the keys of the Franchise.
He knows how to sell, buy and negotiate

I lol'ed. This would be a good plan if we don't win the championship, but if we win there's no way we make those types of changes.

[ShootingtheJ]

My summer move would be ...
Fire Bud and trade Khris + Brook even if we win a Championship.
Always sell high.
Hire Masai Ujiri , give him the keys of the Franchise.
He knows how to sell, buy and negotiate

I lol'ed. This would be a good plan if we don't win the championship, but if we win there's no way we make those types of changes.

Yeah, if we won it and fired the coach, we'd be the laughing stock of the league, and our players would be lining up to ask out.

[ShootingtheJ]

Props to the buy low on Bamba camp here, sure seems you were onto something. Can't say that was me, when others brought it up I was in agreeance as a heck why not take a chance. I'd be curious if we talked to them about him at all and how hard they tried.

Also, I know haven't been on much lately but liking the look of Teague so far too. Can definitely see him being a more important piece than he should be in the playoffs. Probably a stretch but I'd be curious about staggering lineups by having him start over DDV. If you can get him going maybe some teams you could go with a small lineup like Giannis/KM/DDV/Teague/Jrue to close. For sure not vs Philly but seems feasible vs everyone else in the east. And I know that's a leap for Teague and he hasn't shown he's that capable yet, just saying I'd give him some burn the next few weeks and really see if you can unlock a George Hill type stretch at the right time.

It's amazing that Hammond had to cut Birch just to get Clifford to play Bamba.

I understand the annoying body language stuff, but that's the same thing that lead to the Celtics being able to acquire Robert Parrish back in the day.

If the Bucks were to get Bamba, he'd be the Robert Parrish to our dynasty.

[Jez2983]

Props to the buy low on Bamba camp here, sure seems you were onto something. Can't say that was me, when others brought it up I was in agreeance as a heck why not take a chance. I'd be curious if we talked to them about him at all and how hard they tried.

Also, I know haven't been on much lately but liking the look of Teague so far too. Can definitely see him being a more important piece than he should be in the playoffs. Probably a stretch but I'd be curious about staggering lineups by having him start over DDV. If you can get him going maybe some teams you could go with a small lineup like Giannis/KM/DDV/Teague/Jrue to close. For sure not vs Philly but seems feasible vs everyone else in the east. And I know that's a leap for Teague and he hasn't shown he's that capable yet, just saying I'd give him some burn the next few weeks and really see if you can unlock a George Hill type stretch at the right time.

It's amazing that Hammond had to cut Birch just to get Clifford to play Bamba.

I understand the annoying body language stuff, but that's the same thing that lead to the Celtics being able to acquire Robert Parrish back in the day.

If the Bucks were to get Bamba, he'd be the Robert Parrish to our dynasty.

You compared Bamba to Parish? These are the takes I'm here for

[Neuromancer56]

Props to the buy low on Bamba camp here, sure seems you were onto something. Can't say that was me, when others brought it up I was in agreeance as a heck why not take a chance. I'd be curious if we talked to them about him at all and how hard they tried.

Also, I know haven't been on much lately but liking the look of Teague so far too. Can definitely see him being a more important piece than he should be in the playoffs. Probably a stretch but I'd be curious about staggering lineups by having him start over DDV. If you can get him going maybe some teams you could go with a small lineup like Giannis/KM/DDV/Teague/Jrue to close. For sure not vs Philly but seems feasible vs everyone else in the east. And I know that's a leap for Teague and he hasn't shown he's that capable yet, just saying I'd give him some burn the next few weeks and really see if you can unlock a George Hill type stretch at the right time.

It's amazing that Hammond had to cut Birch just to get Clifford to play Bamba.

I understand the annoying body language stuff, but that's the same thing that lead to the Celtics being able to acquire Robert Parrish back in the day.

If the Bucks were to get Bamba, he'd be the Robert Parrish to our dynasty.

You compared Bamba to Parish? These are the takes I'm here for

Parish was one of the meanest SOB's to set foot on a basketball court.

[Lippo]

DDV worth 4/60? Lol. No way.

I bet DDV could fetch a 1st rounder between 15-20 at best.

Landry Shamet landed a late first, DDV is 3 times the player. His next contract will be for $80 million or more.

I feel bad for any team that pays him that amount of money. Franchise crippling contract.

DDV is a better player than Brogdan, he’s worth 5-90 or so.

[WRau1]

I don't think DDV gets anything less than $15mil/per, especially with Kennard getting 4yrs/$64mil.