LivingLegend wrote:jbk1234 wrote:LivingLegend wrote:
We need to talk about what really matters. How many years is dumping KPJ for nothing going to set this Cavs team back? 3 years? 5 years?
Kid just had 20/9/8 the other night and game winning block on defense last night.
I know I know I know its over and he threw soup and had some weed on him. I know. It is just HORRIBLE that he is not on this team as apart of this core.
Can you imagine if KPJ and Drummond were still on this team and Kevin Love was healthy for the entire year? GRRRR
If the Cavs just did nothing, simply nothing with their roster the entire year we would have a helluva team right now. All they had to do was nothing. Make zero moves. Let the roster be, and the Cavs would most likely be in a playoff spot right now with a bright bright future.
I'd much rather have Allen than Drummond in the long run. Hartenstein looks like a real steal. Those are at least two moves I'm happy the Cavs made. I'm really sick of talking about KPJ as the Cavs gave that young man plenty of chances and his issues were far more serious than his apologists want to admit. That said, maybe everyone should sit back and wait to see how successful the Rockets are building around him as the main guy. He's had some good games. So have Sexton and Garland. It takes a lot more than that to become the main guy on a winning team.
The players get a say in how things go down. You want to blame the Cavs for it, have at it, but understand the rest of us are going to need to see Drummond and KPJ do a lot more than just have a few good games.
I would prefer Drummond not get all upset and realize having a frontcourt of Nance, Love, Allen and Drummond for the next few years would have been lethal. Especially with all of the young guard talent to pair with them.
Sure that sounds good, but Andre still has it in his head that he's a max contract player. Once we acquired Allen, it was clear he wasn't getting $28M+ from us and his focused change to trying to prove he was worth it to some other team by filling up the box score at the expense of team play.
He just doesn't grasp that his next contract has been more on the path of being a reckoning than a re-affirmation, and he's getting bad advice or something, because he hasn't tried to adapt to the reality that most GM's don't care how many times he taps his missed shots to himself; but whether he can keep his focus, set effective screens, be a factor on D, and avoid being a black-hole on offense.
My thought is even our low-risk moves need to still be pointed in the right direction for the team. Or why bother taking risks at all? Young/hungry/team-oriented players like Dean Wade and Isaiah Hartenstein cost us next to nothing, fit our time line better, fit our budget better, and cause a whole lot less friction for the team, GM, and coach.
Sure, they lack the ceiling of a Drummond or a KPJ; but we can pursue that by more conventional means by developing the players we have, by whom we draft in the future, and who we bring in via trade/signings. For instance, if we didn't get clever and draft Windler and Porter Jr, maybe we just would have taken Keldon Johnson (whom we were reportedly interested in).