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Re: GT: Nets @ Wolves 4/12/2021 8:00pm EST (No Kyrie or KAT) 

Post#21 » by Rich Rane » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:17 pm

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Papi_swav wrote:It is sad what happened to Mr Wright. and that cop should be held responsible. But why would u run in that situation? I know some of you guys are going to have your panties in a bunch for this but why give them any reason to use a weapon on u or any type of force? just comply, you're already with your hands on your back and 2 cops behind u.


A black man complying with officers in America doesn't automatically mean the black man will come away unscathed. Sad to say, but every black person has more than a right to be afraid in that situation.

Police need to be held more accountable and to a much higher standard. A suspect not in compliance should not mean execution. Officers should be able to tell the difference between a taser and a loaded firearm, no matter the situation.

that is understandable and I get it. But dude was already checkmated . He had his hands behind his back with 2-3 officers behind him, how far does he think he was going to get? Why put them and yourself in that type of situation ? why give them a more of a reason? Need to be 2 times smarter and careful dealing with police in America.


IT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE ON THE SUSPECT IF THE COP DECIDES TO EXECUTE HIM OR NOT. What's the worst thing that happens if a panicked Wright runs and gets away? Police had his information and would've caught up to him sooner or later anyway.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Wolves 4/12/2021 8:00pm EST (No Kyrie or KAT) 

Post#22 » by mycorrizae » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:25 pm

It's biological, people in situations of extreme stress (like an arrest) an go into fight or flight. It's not a moral failing or a lack of intelligence to react that way, it's hardwired into our brains. He had every reason to be scared. The cop had no reason to be afraid, is supposed to have extensive training to mitigate this response, and still freaked out and killed someone over a traffic stop.
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Post#23 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:31 pm

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Papi_swav wrote:It is sad what happened to Mr Wright. and that cop should be held responsible. But why would u run in that situation? I know some of you guys are going to have your panties in a bunch for this but why give them any reason to use a weapon on u or any type of force? just comply, you're already with your hands on your back and 2 cops behind u.


Why are you ok for the penalty for resisting arrest being death?

Yes he should not have been resisting arrest.

That doesn't mean they should kill him. You're blaming the victim here for something that should have never happened.


He's okay with it because he's a racist prick who already outed himself as one in the thread about Kevin Durant and Michael Rapaport. I'm not remotely surprised he's ok with Black man resisting arrest = death.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Wolves 4/12/2021 8:00pm EST (No Kyrie or KAT) 

Post#24 » by Papi_swav » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:57 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:It is sad what happened to Mr Wright. and that cop should be held responsible. But why would u run in that situation? I know some of you guys are going to have your panties in a bunch for this but why give them any reason to use a weapon on u or any type of force? just comply, you're already with your hands on your back and 2 cops behind u.


Why are you ok for the penalty for resisting arrest being death?

Yes he should not have been resisting arrest.

That doesn't mean they should kill him. You're blaming the victim here for something that should have never happened.

why are u twisting my words to where I said that the penalty for resisting arrest is death? point to me where i said that please.
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Post#25 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:59 pm

mycorrizae wrote:It's biological, people in situations of extreme stress (like an arrest) an go into fight or flight. It's not a moral failing or a lack of intelligence to react that way, it's hardwired into our brains. He had every reason to be scared. The cop had no reason to be afraid, is supposed to have extensive training to mitigate this response, and still freaked out and killed someone over a traffic stop.


In America, we ask for people who have guns pointed at them to act with more restraint and self control than the cops.

The worst that should have happened to this kid is maybe getting dragged out of the car and physically restrained until he could be cuffed. Instead he's dead because a cop who absolutely had no business being out on the street panics and shoots him.

It's insane that the threshold for lethal force against civilians is lower than what US troops in a theater of war have to endure before they can open fire. Policing in this country needs serious federal reform and 100% civilian oversight. The unions needs to be broken up or severely restricted by law. Something has to give.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Wolves 4/12/2021 8:00pm EST (No Kyrie or KAT) 

Post#26 » by Papi_swav » Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:02 am

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A black man complying with officers in America doesn't automatically mean the black man will come away unscathed. Sad to say, but every black person has more than a right to be afraid in that situation.

Police need to be held more accountable and to a much higher standard. A suspect not in compliance should not mean execution. Officers should be able to tell the difference between a taser and a loaded firearm, no matter the situation.

that is understandable and I get it. But dude was already checkmated . He had his hands behind his back with 2-3 officers behind him, how far does he think he was going to get? Why put them and yourself in that type of situation ? why give them a more of a reason? Need to be 2 times smarter and careful dealing with police in America.


IT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE ON THE SUSPECT IF THE COP DECIDES TO EXECUTE HIM OR NOT. What's the worst thing that happens if a panicked Wright runs and gets away? Police had his information and would've caught up to him sooner or later anyway.

exactly, so why run if you're going to get caught anyway. Running just gives them a reason to react. All these years of police brutality and we know how nervous and quick these cops are to pull out so why would you even try it. the cop deserves the blame but you have to be smarter in these situations with dealing with these nervous cops.
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Post#27 » by Hello Brooklyn » Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:07 am

Papi_swav wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:It is sad what happened to Mr Wright. and that cop should be held responsible. But why would u run in that situation? I know some of you guys are going to have your panties in a bunch for this but why give them any reason to use a weapon on u or any type of force? just comply, you're already with your hands on your back and 2 cops behind u.


Why are you ok for the penalty for resisting arrest being death?

Yes he should not have been resisting arrest.

That doesn't mean they should kill him. You're blaming the victim here for something that should have never happened.

why are u twisting my words to where I said that the penalty for resisting arrest is death? point to me where i said that please.


Youre blaming him for resisting arrest as if he "gave them a reason" to kill him.
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Post#28 » by Papi_swav » Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:08 am

mycorrizae wrote:It's biological, people in situations of extreme stress (like an arrest) an go into fight or flight. It's not a moral failing or a lack of intelligence to react that way, it's hardwired into our brains. He had every reason to be scared. The cop had no reason to be afraid, is supposed to have extensive training to mitigate this response, and still freaked out and killed someone over a traffic stop.

was it fight or flight before or after he got out of the car? if it was fight or flight he would of fled while he was still in the car, not after he was being detained with his hands on his back and 3 cops trigger happy cops behind him. He does have every right to be scared because of the times we're in but he made a bad decision. But ofcourse you guys would never agree with that.

And cops have every reason to be scared too. You guys act like nothing ever happens to cops and they just walk around freely with no care in the world. They do get attacked and shot at. Almost every week there is an incident with cops being attacked in nyc. A cop got his leg ran over just 2 weeks ago in Brownsville in a similar situation just like this AND it's on video. But that doesn't fit you "woke guys" narrative or the media so I'm sure you never even heard about it.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Wolves 4/12/2021 8:00pm EST (No Kyrie or KAT) 

Post#29 » by Papi_swav » Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:09 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Why are you ok for the penalty for resisting arrest being death?

Yes he should not have been resisting arrest.

That doesn't mean they should kill him. You're blaming the victim here for something that should have never happened.

why are u twisting my words to where I said that the penalty for resisting arrest is death? point to me where i said that please.


Youre blaming him for resisting arrest as if he "gave them a reason" to kill him.

so i guess u skipped past my whole first sentence didn't u? you can go back and read it again, read it 10 times if u have to.
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Post#30 » by Prokorov » Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:44 am

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Prokorov wrote:This is so effing stupid

Read on Twitter


The police chief is calling it an "Accidental discharge" and that the cop thought they were pulling a taser.

WTF is this nonsense. if you are a cop how can you not know if you where your gun is and where your tazer is. also, once you draw it, how do you not know the difference?

Also.

traffic stop. 3 cops. why is a weapon of any kind being drawn here? why is the car even on here? How come we can bring white terrorist mass school shooters in without a scratch but cant issue a traffic violation ticket without killing a 20 year old black father?

Minnesota needs to fire the entire force and have the feds police the state until new chiefs and officers can be vetted and staffed.



What in the hell????

First time I am seeing this. How do you not know the difference between a taser and a handgun?

I'm not going to speculate but this seems like utter incompetence and that officer who discharged her weapon should be fired.


She is being placed on "paid administrative leave"

The police chief and city council were asked why she wasnt fired on the spot and they said she deserve due process. the mayor said she should be fired on the spot, but i guess he has no real say in it
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Post#31 » by Prokorov » Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:45 am

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Prokorov wrote:People are saying on twitter that both Kyrie and KAT were missing this to "personal reasons" because of the shooting. The NBA/MLB cancelling the games and KAT also sitting our 'personal reasons' for this one kind of makes it silly to beat on kyrie for it

That's cap. Kyrie called out since yesterday because he simply "just felt like not playing" like always. And KAT is doing a memorial for his mom.


"like always"?

like when he was having baby?

I see nothing wrong with not wanting to play in this game. the timberwolves, nets, and NBA also dont seem to think it should be played
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Post#32 » by Prokorov » Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:47 am

Papi_swav wrote:It is sad what happened to Mr Wright. and that cop should be held responsible. But why would u run in that situation? I know some of you guys are going to have your panties in a bunch for this but why give them any reason to use a weapon on u or any type of force? just comply, you're already with your hands on your back and 2 cops behind u.


You run because you fear for your life.

When the police in this country constantly shoot and kill black people at routine traffic stops and kill unarmed black men you get nervous the second you see those high beams that your life is in danger... its human isntinct. fight or flight. them running is literally "flight". they are running for their lives. the idea that if they just comply they wont still be shot and killed is simply false, since we have seen compliance and still the guns come out.

Why are we asking "why didnt he comply" instead of "why they shooting unarmed people during traffic stops?
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Post#33 » by Prokorov » Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:49 am

Papi_swav wrote:
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Papi_swav wrote:It is sad what happened to Mr Wright. and that cop should be held responsible. But why would u run in that situation? I know some of you guys are going to have your panties in a bunch for this but why give them any reason to use a weapon on u or any type of force? just comply, you're already with your hands on your back and 2 cops behind u.


A black man complying with officers in America doesn't automatically mean the black man will come away unscathed. Sad to say, but every black person has more than a right to be afraid in that situation.

Police need to be held more accountable and to a much higher standard. A suspect not in compliance should not mean execution. Officers should be able to tell the difference between a taser and a loaded firearm, no matter the situation.

that is understandable and I get it. But dude was already checkmated . He had his hands behind his back with 2-3 officers behind him, how far does he think he was going to get? Why put them and yourself in that type of situation ? why give them a more of a reason? Need to be 2 times smarter and careful dealing with police in America.


He was "in that situation" as soon as the cops pulled him over. his life was in danger the second the cops decided to pull him over.

George floyd was "cuffed with nowhere to go" and then complied and ended up murdered too. in the same state.
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Post#34 » by Prokorov » Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:52 am

Papi_swav wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:It is sad what happened to Mr Wright. and that cop should be held responsible. But why would u run in that situation? I know some of you guys are going to have your panties in a bunch for this but why give them any reason to use a weapon on u or any type of force? just comply, you're already with your hands on your back and 2 cops behind u.


Why are you ok for the penalty for resisting arrest being death?

Yes he should not have been resisting arrest.

That doesn't mean they should kill him. You're blaming the victim here for something that should have never happened.

why are u twisting my words to where I said that the penalty for resisting arrest is death? point to me where i said that please.


no one has to twist your words. we have heard this argument in defense of cops a million times and we know where it leads. if you are asking "why did he run" you are already justifying the cops behavior.
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Post#35 » by Prokorov » Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:54 am

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mycorrizae wrote:It's biological, people in situations of extreme stress (like an arrest) an go into fight or flight. It's not a moral failing or a lack of intelligence to react that way, it's hardwired into our brains. He had every reason to be scared. The cop had no reason to be afraid, is supposed to have extensive training to mitigate this response, and still freaked out and killed someone over a traffic stop.


In America, we ask for people who have guns pointed at them to act with more restraint and self control than the cops.

The worst that should have happened to this kid is maybe getting dragged out of the car and physically restrained until he could be cuffed. Instead he's dead because a cop who absolutely had no business being out on the street panics and shoots him.

It's insane that the threshold for lethal force against civilians is lower than what US troops in a theater of war have to endure before they can open fire. Policing in this country needs serious federal reform and 100% civilian oversight. The unions needs to be broken up or severely restricted by law. Something has to give.


ammend that to include the entire justice system. Body cams are awesome (when they dont "malfunction" right before a cop kills someone) but we have HD footage of cops killing unarmaed black men and its still not enough to get a conviction.

Cops arent going to stop murdering young black men until their are actual consequences.
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Post#36 » by Hello Brooklyn » Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:55 am

Papi_swav wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:why are u twisting my words to where I said that the penalty for resisting arrest is death? point to me where i said that please.


Youre blaming him for resisting arrest as if he "gave them a reason" to kill him.

so i guess u skipped past my whole first sentence didn't u? you can go back and read it again, read it 10 times if u have to.


Your first line was invalidated by the preceding ones. Get a clue bro.

You're out here justifying police brutality.
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Post#37 » by Prokorov » Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:57 am

Papi_swav wrote:
Rich Rane wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:that is understandable and I get it. But dude was already checkmated . He had his hands behind his back with 2-3 officers behind him, how far does he think he was going to get? Why put them and yourself in that type of situation ? why give them a more of a reason? Need to be 2 times smarter and careful dealing with police in America.


IT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE ON THE SUSPECT IF THE COP DECIDES TO EXECUTE HIM OR NOT. What's the worst thing that happens if a panicked Wright runs and gets away? Police had his information and would've caught up to him sooner or later anyway.

exactly, so why run if you're going to get caught anyway. Running just gives them a reason to react. All these years of police brutality and we know how nervous and quick these cops are to pull out so why would you even try it. the cop deserves the blame but you have to be smarter in these situations with dealing with these nervous cops.


You are in danger whether you run or not. so may as well run and at least have a chance of getting away without being murdered. the cops dont need a reason to kill black men, we have seen that time and time again.

If someone is running AWAY from you and is UNARMED there is no threat. in which case there is 0 justification to unholster any weapon. The penatly for cops who murder black men should be the death penalty. maybe then they will think twice
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Post#38 » by Prokorov » Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:59 am

Papi_swav wrote:And cops have every reason to be scared too. You guys act like nothing ever happens to cops and they just walk around freely with no care in the world. They do get attacked and shot at. Almost every week there is an incident with cops being attacked in nyc. A cop got his leg ran over just 2 weeks ago in Brownsville in a similar situation just like this AND it's on video. But that doesn't fit you "woke guys" narrative or the media so I'm sure you never even heard about it.


This is complete BS.

THREE cops were there for this traffic stop. he was already patted down and known to be unarmed. there was no threat here for the cops to be scared at all. they had him outnumbered 3 to 1 and out gunned 3 to 0. If you are too scared to handle a routine traffic stop you should not be a cop.

Cops just cant go around shooting civilians cause "sometimes they get scared".
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Post#39 » by Whiskey Slick » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:05 am

andrewww wrote:Looks like this game is being moved to tomorrow night since both teams have an off day.

Going to be real unfortunate timing because of the big showdown at PHI Wed night which would now be the second half of a b2b.

So unfair to the Nets. They should move this game to later in the season when both teams have another off day.

The Nets and Philly have been battling all year for the #1 seed. This would put the Nets at a big disadvantage.
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Post#40 » by Papi_swav » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:58 am

Prokorov wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:And cops have every reason to be scared too. You guys act like nothing ever happens to cops and they just walk around freely with no care in the world. They do get attacked and shot at. Almost every week there is an incident with cops being attacked in nyc. A cop got his leg ran over just 2 weeks ago in Brownsville in a similar situation just like this AND it's on video. But that doesn't fit you "woke guys" narrative or the media so I'm sure you never even heard about it.


This is complete BS.

THREE cops were there for this traffic stop. he was already patted down and known to be unarmed. there was no threat here for the cops to be scared at all. they had him outnumbered 3 to 1 and out gunned 3 to 0. If you are too scared to handle a routine traffic stop you should not be a cop.

Cops just cant go around shooting civilians cause "sometimes they get scared".

did they check the car thoroughly? did they know for sure there wasn't a gun under the seat or anywhere else?

but yea I agree, you shouldn't be a cop if you can't handle this. Which is about 80% of cops in America. So I have a great question for u, If you know they are as scared as u or even more scared than u are, would you run on them? would u run on them when you're outnumbered 3-1? would you run on them when you're outgunned 3-0 KNOWING how scared they might be? Exactly, this is my point. You have to be smarter in these situations.

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