As a Scoring Point Guard, Steph Has No Serious Rival

[clyde21]

I don't think there's a big drop off between Steph and Dame at this point.

Dame's best season (and this is just RS) would ranked as Steph's 5th best in terms of TS%, and you can go on and on...Dame is a great player, but every time you guys try to make this argument ya'll lose...stop it

this nonsense should have stopped after the 19 WCF finals after Dame got 4-0'd by Steph.

[taufblazers33]

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[taufblazers33]

I don't think there's a big drop off between Steph and Dame at this point.

Dame's best season (and this is just RS) would ranked as Steph's 5th best in terms of TS%, and you can go on and on...Dame is a great player, but every time you guys try to make this argument ya'll lose...stop it

this nonsense should have stopped after the 19 WCF finals after Dame got 4-0'd by Steph.

that's because Curry has played with the likes of Durant/Thompson/Draymond

[phanman]

I don't think there's a big drop off between Steph and Dame at this point.

Dame's best season (and this is just RS) would ranked as Steph's 5th best in terms of TS%, and you can go on and on...Dame is a great player, but every time you guys try to make this argument ya'll lose...stop it

this nonsense should have stopped after the 19 WCF finals after Dame got 4-0'd by Steph.

that's because Curry has played with the likes of Durant/Thompson/Draymond

KD didn't play

[NY 567]

If you consider Harden a PG, he's a rival for sure. Dude has averaged 30+ ppg on 60+TS% multiple times, including one year where he averaged 36 with a .616 TS%.

[druggas]

If you consider Harden a PG, he's a rival for sure. Dude has averaged 30+ ppg on 60+TS% multiple times, including one year where he averaged 36 with a .616 TS%.

Harden led his team to multiple playoffs. Curry has led his team to the lottery. Now let's talk about "No serious rival".

[Marrrcuss]

Can we just call him the shooting guard he is, even if it means he isnt top 3 all time at his position?

And i still have him leading Dame and Kyrie who, just like him, are more shooting guard than point. Id still rather have those two in the final 2 mins of a playoff game thought.

why would we call him something he's not? he's not a shooting guard. he's a PG that plays off ball half the time because he's also happens to be an elite off-ball player...if anything he's a combo guard, but he's not a SG

and he would actually be ranked as just as high on the SG list as he would on the PG list...so, yea.

Jordan, Kobe, Wade......ummmmmm, no

[Wallace_Wallace]

I don't think there's a big drop off between Steph and Dame at this point.

Dame's best season (and this is just RS) would ranked as Steph's 5th best in terms of TS%, and you can go on and on...Dame is a great player, but every time you guys try to make this argument ya'll lose...stop it

this nonsense should have stopped after the 19 WCF finals after Dame got 4-0'd by Steph.

that's because Curry has played with the likes of Durant/Thompson/Draymond

Funny thing Durant didn't actually play due the calf/Achilles injury. The Warriors only ask KD to come back after they were down 3-1 to the Raptors.

Draymond Green did turned it on that series though. Game 3 and 4 he was a demon.

[Cavsfansince84]

Threads such as this one are how and why certain players get overrated. Not saying by a lot but overrated all the same. I don't feel like a lot of people who make these threads or say a bunch of hyperbolic things about the player they are about have been following the nba for more than 10-20 years either. For instance, no Steph isn't the goat screen runner and his release while quick I'm not sold on the quickest but also he has very little lift and a somewhat low release point on top of being sort of smallish which means he can't get his shot off quite as easily as other guys such as Reggie or Luka. You can appreciate a player without them needing to be the greatest ever at x, y, z and x1, y2, z2. I say this as someone who's been making complimentary posts about Steph almost all season long including when people were busy making the threads about him being so exposed early on and when the Warriors record started to sink a month or so ago.

[Duke4life831]

I don't think there's a big drop off between Steph and Dame at this point.

Dame’s career best eFG% is 56%
Curry’s career average eFG% is 58%

Dame’s career best TS% is 62%
Curry’s career average TS% is 62%

So peak Dame is essentially equal to average Curry when it comes to scoring efficiency.

[Fencer reregistered]

Can we just call him the shooting guard he is, even if it means he isnt top 3 all time at his position?

And i still have him leading Dame and Kyrie who, just like him, are more shooting guard than point. Id still rather have those two in the final 2 mins of a playoff game thought.

I say Curry is a scoring PG, as Jerry West was before him.

[1993Playoffs]

I agree. People take his insane efficiency and shot making abilities for granted.

The guy is by far the best shooter ever

[Jazz9]

I like Dame
He's great

But Steph is sitting up there all by his lonesome

[dygaction]

Can we just call him the shooting guard he is, even if it means he isnt top 3 all time at his position?

And i still have him leading Dame and Kyrie who, just like him, are more shooting guard than point. Id still rather have those two in the final 2 mins of a playoff game thought.

why would we call him something he's not? he's not a shooting guard. he's a PG that plays off ball half the time because he's also happens to be an elite off-ball player...if anything he's a combo guard, but he's not a SG

and he would actually be ranked as just as high on the SG list as he would on the PG list...so, yea.

Jordan, Kobe, Wade......ummmmmm, no

Kobe is debatable, but time is on Curry's side. Curry is ahead of Wade already..

[Peregrine01]

For the record, these are the only players with +6% rTS and >40 pts per 100 in the modern era:

rTS% Pts per 100
Curry 16 12.8% 42.5
Durant 14 9.4% 41.8
Curry 21 9.0% 42.5
Malone 90 8.9% 40.6
Jordan 89 7.7% 40.0
Thomas 17 7.3% 42.4
Jordan 91 7.1% 42.7
Jordan 90 6.9% 42.7
Jordan 88 6.5% 43.6
Malone 97 6.4% 40.0
Shaq 98 6.3% 40.1
Harden 18 6.3% 42.3
Harden 20 6.1% 43.5
Lebron 10 6.1% 40.0

Looking at this list it's kind of crazy the year Isaiah Thomas had in 17 and how he subsequently disappeared.

[taufblazers33]

I don't think there's a big drop off between Steph and Dame at this point.

Dame’s career best eFG% is 56%
Curry’s career average eFG% is 58%

Dame’s career best TS% is 62%
Curry’s career average TS% is 62%

So peak Dame is essentially equal to average Curry when it comes to scoring efficiency.

Curry has had a better supporting cast most of his career, compared to Dame.

in a vacuum, looking at pure talent, Dame is right up there with Curry.

[Marrrcuss]

No mention of the comparison of "clutch" ???

[Duke4life831]

I don't think there's a big drop off between Steph and Dame at this point.

Dame’s career best eFG% is 56%
Curry’s career average eFG% is 58%

Dame’s career best TS% is 62%
Curry’s career average TS% is 62%

So peak Dame is essentially equal to average Curry when it comes to scoring efficiency.

Curry has had a better supporting cast most of his career, compared to Dame.

in a vacuum, looking at pure talent, Dame is right up there with Curry.

Curry this year would be career highs for Dame in

PPG
FG%
3pt%
2pt%
eFG%
TS%

You can’t make the argument that Steph is playing with the superior cast this year.

[Pelly24]

I don't think there's a big drop off between Steph and Dame at this point.

Dame’s career best eFG% is 56%
Curry’s career average eFG% is 58%

Dame’s career best TS% is 62%
Curry’s career average TS% is 62%

So peak Dame is essentially equal to average Curry when it comes to scoring efficiency.

Curry has had a better supporting cast most of his career, compared to Dame.

in a vacuum, looking at pure talent, Dame is right up there with Curry.

I think you could argue that Dame is a more varied and more dynamic shot-maker than Steph and is generally less reliant on his three-ball because he's a superior athlete. But this season is showing that it really doesn't matter who's on Steph's team; he'll always pair volume with elite efficiency. Really, even being at 30 ppg at +2 or +3 TS% is pretty amazing given the circumstances. Steph is at +9 TS% with a worse supporting cast than Dame's ever had.

[WarriorGM]

Jordan is Steph's only serious rival in this category. That others are even being mentioned shows Curry is still being underrated. Anyone saying Curry is being overrated is ignorant at best or else a provocateur.

Curry eliminated his two biggest rivals of the era at his position in Harden and Chris Paul playing at the same time against him despite giving them a scoreless half and a lead to work with. That answered any open question in relation to Harden with finality.

If anyone here is impressed by what Harden or CP3 can do just remember Curry is on a higher level.