It's a Tragedy to see the Deadline's Over Post Trade Thread

[JediMasterRevan]

You can't use TPE to sign players and no productive vet wing will sign for the tax payer's MLE.
Lauri is horrible. Also, forgetting about all the other complications of a SnT, the very idea of signing Lauri to a big enough contract to match salaries with Kemba is just awful.
I honestly don't think you have ever seen these people play basketball.

Lauri is in a bad situation can could be a buy low candidate and is an upgrade to Grant Williams.

Dont have to match salaries because Chicago has capspace that allows them to take more salary in than out. so Lauri would not get anywhere near what Kemba does.

You can do sign and trades into the tpe for players. We have discussed this on this forum ad nauseam. It should be common knowledge that when someone stats that you can sign a player into the TPE that it is just a short form way of saying complete a "complete a sign and trade with a team for a player by using our TPE and a 2nd or 2 so that the team losing the player gets something to trade down in the road as opposed to losing the free agent for nothing"

Get it?
Good.

[BK_2020]

You can't use TPE to sign players and no productive vet wing will sign for the tax payer's MLE.
Lauri is horrible. Also, forgetting about all the other complications of a SnT, the very idea of signing Lauri to a big enough contract to match salaries with Kemba is just awful.
I honestly don't think you have ever seen these people play basketball.

Lauri is in a bad situation can could be a buy low candidate and is an upgrade to Grant Williams.

Dont have to match salaries because Chicago has capspace that allows them to take more salary in than out. so Lauri would not get anywhere near what Kemba does.

You can do sign and trades into the tpe for players. We have discussed this on this forum ad nauseam. It should be common knowledge that when someone stats that you can sign a player into the TPE that it is just a short form way of saying complete a "complete a sign and trade with a team for a player by using our TPE and a 2nd or 2 so that the team losing the player gets something to trade down in the road as opposed to losing the free agent for nothing"

Get it?
Good.

I couldn't disagree more.
Grant Williams can stay with his man and switch 3-5. Lauri cannot stay in front of centers. By block % Lauri is a significantly worse rim defender than Grant Williams. Lauri is also a terrible rebounder for his size. He's a downgrade over Grant in every way possible.
We are looking at $112 mil or so for 2021-2022 cap space. Even if the Bulls waive Arci, Sato and Thad, they have like $90 mil. committed. They can't absorb Kemba into cap space.

[JediMasterRevan]

You can't use TPE to sign players and no productive vet wing will sign for the tax payer's MLE.
Lauri is horrible. Also, forgetting about all the other complications of a SnT, the very idea of signing Lauri to a big enough contract to match salaries with Kemba is just awful.
I honestly don't think you have ever seen these people play basketball.

Lauri is in a bad situation can could be a buy low candidate and is an upgrade to Grant Williams.

Dont have to match salaries because Chicago has capspace that allows them to take more salary in than out. so Lauri would not get anywhere near what Kemba does.

You can do sign and trades into the tpe for players. We have discussed this on this forum ad nauseam. It should be common knowledge that when someone stats that you can sign a player into the TPE that it is just a short form way of saying complete a "complete a sign and trade with a team for a player by using our TPE and a 2nd or 2 so that the team losing the player gets something to trade down in the road as opposed to losing the free agent for nothing"

Get it?
Good.

I couldn't disagree more.
Grant Williams can stay with his man and switch 3-5. Lauri cannot stay in front of centers. By block % Lauri is a significantly worse rim defender than Grant Williams. Lauri is also a terrible rebounder for his size. He's a downgrade over Grant in every way possible.
We are looking at $112 mil or so for 2021-2022 cap space. Even if the Bulls waive Arci, Sato and Thad, they have like $90 mil. committed. They can't absorb Kemba into cap space.

Go talk to anyone in the world and try to get them to agree that Lauri Markannen is a downgrade to Grant WIlliams in every possible way and try to get them to agree with you. Go post it on the general board and see how many people agree with you on that.

What a terrible, awful take.

And I never stated that Chicago would take all of kemba into their capspace. Do you even read posts before responding? I said that Boston would not have to recieve back equal amounts of salary in a deal with Chicago as they can take on more salary than send out.


24 VOoch
19.5 LAvine
10.1 Aminu
7.4 Williams
5.8 White
5.1 Brown Jr
71.9 mill
All the guaranteed contracts.

14.1 Young
10 Sato
24.1

Javonte and Makoka are gone
Lets assume they keep Arcidiacono (3 mill)
Total salary 99 mill

Expected cap is 115.7 million

Available room (outside of Lauries Caphold) is ~17 million
Capspace available to sign a new player or to take on more salary than send out.


And I also said Lauri +.

Lauri and Brown Jr (Lauri at 14 mill per season) would be ~20 million outgoing and incoming of ~36 million.
Works

[BK_2020]

I don't think Kemba should be jettisoned for nothing but if he is, NYK is most likely the best destination for Kemba, given that:
1. They have the most cap space.
2. They start Elfrid Payton at PG.
3. They want to compete.
Lauri SnT is bad and impractical on so many levels.

[BK_2020]

Lauri is in a bad situation can could be a buy low candidate and is an upgrade to Grant Williams.

Dont have to match salaries because Chicago has capspace that allows them to take more salary in than out. so Lauri would not get anywhere near what Kemba does.

You can do sign and trades into the tpe for players. We have discussed this on this forum ad nauseam. It should be common knowledge that when someone stats that you can sign a player into the TPE that it is just a short form way of saying complete a "complete a sign and trade with a team for a player by using our TPE and a 2nd or 2 so that the team losing the player gets something to trade down in the road as opposed to losing the free agent for nothing"

Get it?
Good.

I couldn't disagree more.
Grant Williams can stay with his man and switch 3-5. Lauri cannot stay in front of centers. By block % Lauri is a significantly worse rim defender than Grant Williams. Lauri is also a terrible rebounder for his size. He's a downgrade over Grant in every way possible.
We are looking at $112 mil or so for 2021-2022 cap space. Even if the Bulls waive Arci, Sato and Thad, they have like $90 mil. committed. They can't absorb Kemba into cap space.

Go talk to anyone in the world and try to get them to agree that Lauri Markannen is a downgrade to Grant WIlliams in every possible way and try to get them to agree with you. Go post it on the general board and see how many people agree with you on that.

What a terrible, awful take.

And I never stated that Chicago would take all of kemba into their capspace. Do you even read posts before responding? I said that Boston would not have to recieve back equal amounts of salary in a deal with Chicago as they can take on more salary than send out.


24 VOoch
19.5 LAvine
10.1 Aminu
7.4 Williams
5.8 White
5.1 Brown Jr
71.9 mill
All the guaranteed contracts.

14.1 Young
10 Sato
24.1

Javonte and Makoka are gone
Lets assume they keep Arcidiacono (3 mill)
Total salary 99 mill

Expected cap is 115.7 million

Available room (outside of Lauries Caphold) is ~17 million
Capspace available to sign a new player or to take on more salary than send out.


And I also said Lauri +.

Lauri and Brown Jr (Lauri at 14 mill per season) would be ~20 million outgoing and incoming of ~36 million.
Works

At $99 mil., the Bulls give away $5 mil and add $36 mil. to get to $130 mil in salary. This is not allowed under the CBA.

[gocelts]

Simmons for Jaylen

Says the Sixers fan.

Simmons = Lamar Odom. He's decent but has some warts.

Simmons is 6'10 Jason Kidd. He's a HoFer.

Corrected:
Simmons is 6'10.
Jason Kidd, he is a hall of HoFer.

[Ernest]

Who is Stadium5?

[djFan71]

Who is Stadium5?

A poster on this site. What do I win?

[steefP2]

For what it’s worth I 100% agree grant is a more valuable player then markanen and I say this as an almost Fin who really wants him to be good. Laurie can shoot and that’s all. He’s slow, not physical, low motor and poor bbiq

[GoGreen]

Call me crazy, but Lauri is going to get paid. Still really young, has size, and puts up good numbers. Teams pay for potential.

[Hal14]

We need to get DeAaron Fox on this team, he'd fit perfectly. His playstyle reminds me of a modern John Wall

He's the Kings franchise player. Literally the 2 guys they said are untouchable are him and Haliburton.

[Bleeding Green]

Lauri is better than Grant, but who cares? Lauri an RFA who is going to get 20m offers probably. Grant makes 2.5 million, is younger and is under team control for two more full seasons after this at peanuts. I don't think it takes a lot of improvement from Williams for him to be a good player and better than Markkanen; just cut down on the fouling and the sloppy passing mostly.

[Hal14]

I don't think Kemba should be jettisoned for nothing but if he is, NYK is most likely the best destination for Kemba, given that:
1. They have the most cap space.
2. They start Elfrid Payton at PG.
3. They want to compete.
Lauri SnT is bad and impractical on so many levels.

But who do we get in return?

I'd like to get Randle but obviously no way in hell they trade Randle for Kemba, not even if we give them multiple 1st round picks.

The deal would probably have involve a 3rd team:

Knicks get: Kemba
Team 2 gets: Assets from Knicks
Celtics get: A good established player (either a PG, SG, SF or PF) from team 2

[robdog_5]

Simmons for Jaylen

Says the Sixers fan.

Simmons = Lamar Odom. He's decent but has some warts.

Simmons is 6'10 Jason Kidd. He's a HoFer.

Jason Kidd also is a top 12 all time in 3pt attempts and makes. Simmons hasn't taken 12 3pt in his career

[Asian Celtic]

Stadium5 guaranteed his insider rep now lol

[CeltsFlow]

Read on Twitter

[MagicBagley18]

Stadium5 posted this hours ago and got it right kudos to him

[zoyathedestroya]

#2 overall pick. He's better than Embiid then. The league is ****.

[Hal14]

Read on Twitter

Woah.

This could be a good move.

I'm hoping that either Ojeleye or Edwards gets cut.

I like Wagner. He has been shaky for us but the dude is 6'11", moves very quick for a guy that size, he can shoot from the outside, plays good D and is only 23. I see him and Nesmith as both guys who are too raw and under-developed to play meaningful minutes right now, but both have good potential for the future. I'd like to see us keep both and keep developing them. While I feel more comfortable with Grant on the court right now than Wagner, Wagner's ceiling is much higher.

Ojeleye and Edwards can both be gone and I won't care. Ojeleye is an unrestricted free agent this offseason. Edwards is signed through 2023, so only way we could get rid of Edwards is if we trade him or buy him out - obviously trade deadline has passed.,.and I believe it's too late in the season to buy anyone out of their contract, right? So we literally can't get rid of Edwards, correct? If that's the case, I say we drop Ojeleye. I've got a bad feeling they're gonna drop Wagner instead though..

[Bleeding Green]

#2 overall pick. He's better than Embiid then. The league is ****.

He's actually played more minutes in his career than Embiid. Somehow.