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Game Thread: Bulls (23-33) @ Celtics (31-26) – 7:30PM, Mon. 04-19-21

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Game Thread: Bulls (23-33) @ Celtics (31-26) – 7:30PM, Mon. 04-19-21 

Post#1 » by Parliament10 » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:17 pm

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Victory Cigar
(11) Jayson Tatum
(9) Jaylen Brown
(3) Robert Williams
(2) Payton Pritchard
(2) Kemba Walker
(1) Marcus Smart
(1) Semi Ojeleye
(1) Luke Kornet
(1) Evan Fournier




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(6) Jayson Tatum
(4) Robert Williams
(4) Stevens/Team
(3) Jaylen Brown
(2) Tacko Fall
(2) Payton Pritchard
(2) Grant Williams
(2) Marcus Smart
(1) Carsen Edwards
(1) Aaron Nesmith
(1) Daniel Theis
(1) Kemba Walker
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Re: Game Thread: Bulls (23-33) @ Celtics (31-26) – 7:30PM, Mon. 04-19-21 

Post#2 » by zoyathedestroya » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:42 pm

We're having steak for dinner. Don't play with your food, Cs!

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Re: Game Thread: Bulls (23-33) @ Celtics (31-26) – 7:30PM, Mon. 04-19-21 

Post#3 » by radcot » Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:55 pm

Let the good times keep rollin'!!!! Nice to have fun watching the C's again.
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Re: Game Thread: Bulls (23-33) @ Celtics (31-26) – 7:30PM, Mon. 04-19-21 

Post#4 » by max powers » Sun Apr 18, 2021 3:20 pm

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Re: Game Thread: Bulls (23-33) @ Celtics (31-26) – 7:30PM, Mon. 04-19-21 

Post#5 » by Curmudgeon » Sun Apr 18, 2021 4:06 pm

max powers wrote:Rolex should give Timelord a contract and design a line of watches named for him


Meh, a Rolex costs as much as a car. Waste of money for a status symbol that doesn't keep time much better than a cheap quartz watch. I keep a $25 quartz watch set to Greenwich mean time on my boat, as a chronometer, and it is more accurate than the finest chronometer ever made.

Now if Timex gave Timelord a contract I might buy one.
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Re: Game Thread: Bulls (23-33) @ Celtics (31-26) – 7:30PM, Mon. 04-19-21 

Post#6 » by Parliament10 » Sun Apr 18, 2021 4:34 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:
max powers wrote:Rolex should give Timelord a contract and design a line of watches named for him


Meh, a Rolex costs as much as a car. Waste of money for a status symbol that doesn't keep time much better than a cheap quartz watch. I keep a $25 quartz watch set to Greenwich mean time on my boat, as a chronometer, and it is more accurate than the finest chronometer ever made.

Now if Timex gave Timelord a contract I might buy one.

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Timex did reach out to "TimeLord" aka Rob Williams, wih this picture in their tweet.
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Re: Game Thread: Bulls (23-33) @ Celtics (31-26) – 7:30PM, Mon. 04-19-21 

Post#7 » by bisme37 » Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:18 pm

I hadn't saved a game on my DVR all season and now I have 3 that I can't make myself delete from just the last week. So something tells me our team is fun again. And good! Let's keep it going!
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Re: Game Thread: Bulls (23-33) @ Celtics (31-26) – 7:30PM, Mon. 04-19-21 

Post#8 » by zoyathedestroya » Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:38 pm

After the win vs. the Warriors, the Celtics recorded their 1st six-game win streak this season. If they win vs. the Bulls, it will be the first time they will be six games above .500 this season. KEEP MAKING HISTORY!!

No Zach LaVine for the Bulls in this one. Hopefully we get Jaylen back for this game.
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Re: Game Thread: Bulls (23-33) @ Celtics (31-26) – 7:30PM, Mon. 04-19-21 

Post#9 » by CelticsPride18 » Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:45 pm

Kornet revenge game
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Post#10 » by playa-hater » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:07 pm

In one hand I consider every game a playoff game here on out. Winning matters. But the other hand I am thinking Big picture. Maybe we should give J Brown and Timelord this game off and have them both fresh as hell for Thursday and Friday for the Suns + Nets.

*with the hope that Fournier can play Monday, since he needs the reps.

I am very confident that TT and Kornet can hold down the center spot, Tatum + Kemba can pick up the scoring slack minus Brown. Founier plays is a plus. and our new toy JP can grown some more. Lavine being out helps this cause as well.
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Re: Game Thread: Bulls (23-33) @ Celtics (31-26) – 7:30PM, Mon. 04-19-21 

Post#11 » by 31to6 » Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:22 pm

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Re: Game Thread: Bulls (23-33) @ Celtics (31-26) – 7:30PM, Mon. 04-19-21 

Post#12 » by Gomes3PC » Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:00 am

On the one side, we are assembling an injury report that looks to rival the Hospital Celtics.

On the other, the Bulls minus LaVine should be a layup. Feed Jayson and play tough D.

After this one, we have an extra day off and hopefully that helps guys a bit.
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Re: Game Thread: Bulls (23-33) @ Celtics (31-26) – 7:30PM, Mon. 04-19-21 

Post#13 » by Saint Lazarus » Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:18 am

Curmudgeon wrote:
max powers wrote:Rolex should give Timelord a contract and design a line of watches named for him


Meh, a Rolex costs as much as a car. Waste of money for a status symbol that doesn't keep time much better than a cheap quartz watch. I keep a $25 quartz watch set to Greenwich mean time on my boat, as a chronometer, and it is more accurate than the finest chronometer ever made.

Now if Timex gave Timelord a contract I might buy one.


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Post#15 » by Hal14 » Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:04 am

CelticsPride18 wrote:Kornet revenge game

I know you're joking, but I actually think Kornet could really be a key player this game.

Time Lord is out. Bulls have Vucevic at 6'11" at center so I don't see us playing Parker or Grant much at all as a small ball 5.

I see lots of mins for Thompson and Kornet. Thing is, Vucevic spends a lot of time on the perimeter and shoots lots of 3's. Thompson has struggled to cover opposing bigs out on the perimeter (Towns, Gasol, etc.) cause he's too slow. TT has been good since he returned for us, but there's 2 things he simply can't do - defend out on the perimeter and shoot from the perimeter.

Kornet is quicker and better at defending the perimeter than TT. Kornet matches up well defensively against Vucevic, not only because Kornet has the quickness to defend out on the perimeter (at least better than TT) but Kornet at 7'2 also has the size to defend and rebound against Vucevic when Vucevic goes inside.

I want to see lots of Kornet this game, at least 15..maybe even 20+ mins. Put Kornet on Vucevic when he's out there.

Looks like Time Lord and Fournier have been ruled out and Brown, Tatum and Kemba are all on injury report as either questionable or probably. So knock on wood, hopefully everyone else plays except Time Lord and Fournier. If Walker/Brown/Tatum all play, I can see us blowing the Bulls out and then that way, our starters can rest up in the 4th quarter. Then hopefully we have a full team for the first time with EVERYBODY healthy and ready to play on Thursday..
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Post#16 » by playa-hater » Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:13 am

What is all this NON Covid related illnesses. I can't remember being sick more than twice since I was a kid. take your vitamins, eat vegetables or something dang it. and so much for getting Fournier back for at least a game before our tough matchups coming..
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Post#17 » by AKFO » Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:33 am

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CelticsPride18 wrote:Kornet revenge game

I know you're joking, but I actually think Kornet could really be a key player this game.

Time Lord is out. Bulls have Vucevic at 6'11" at center so I don't see us playing Parker or Grant much at all as a small ball 5.

I see lots of mins for Thompson and Kornet. Thing is, Vucevic spends a lot of time on the perimeter and shoots lots of 3's. Thompson has struggled to cover opposing bigs out on the perimeter (Towns, Gasol, etc.) cause he's too slow. TT has been good since he returned for us, but there's 2 things he simply can't do - defend out on the perimeter and shoot from the perimeter.

Kornet is quicker and better at defending the perimeter than TT. Kornet matches up well defensively against Vucevic, not only because Kornet has the quickness to defend out on the perimeter (at least better than TT) but Kornet at 7'2 also has the size to defend and rebound against Vucevic when Vucevic goes inside.

I want to see lots of Kornet this game, at least 15..maybe even 20+ mins. Put Kornet on Vucevic when he's out there.

Looks like Time Lord and Fournier have been ruled out and Brown, Tatum and Kemba are all on injury report as either questionable or probably. So knock on wood, hopefully everyone else plays except Time Lord and Fournier. If Walker/Brown/Tatum all play, I can see us blowing the Bulls out and then that way, our starters can rest up in the 4th quarter. Then hopefully we have a full team for the first time with EVERYBODY healthy and ready to play on Thursday..

The boldface is just wrong. Thompson is the best perimeter-defending big on this team outside of Grant and frankly one of the better perimeter defending bigs in the league. It's his biggest strength outside of rebounding.

Gasol got those open threes the other night because we were icing screen and rolls to the sideline and the guard was making no effort to contain their man. Thompson has to contain the ballhandler in time for the guard to recover before he can get out to the perimeter. Our problem is we were icing pick-and-rolls before Gasol even decided he was going to set a pick. That and there was no weakside rotation to contain Gasol (not that there should be). Take a look for yourself.



Towns made one three in a Thompson pick and roll because Thompson called switch and Smart stayed with his man. Thompson's real weakness on defense is protecting the rim. Stevens or Ainge would tell you he's great on the perimeter.
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Re: Game Thread: Bulls (23-33) @ Celtics (31-26) – 7:30PM, Mon. 04-19-21 

Post#18 » by Hal14 » Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:28 am

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CelticsPride18 wrote:Kornet revenge game

I know you're joking, but I actually think Kornet could really be a key player this game.

Time Lord is out. Bulls have Vucevic at 6'11" at center so I don't see us playing Parker or Grant much at all as a small ball 5.

I see lots of mins for Thompson and Kornet. Thing is, Vucevic spends a lot of time on the perimeter and shoots lots of 3's. Thompson has struggled to cover opposing bigs out on the perimeter (Towns, Gasol, etc.) cause he's too slow. TT has been good since he returned for us, but there's 2 things he simply can't do - defend out on the perimeter and shoot from the perimeter.

Kornet is quicker and better at defending the perimeter than TT. Kornet matches up well defensively against Vucevic, not only because Kornet has the quickness to defend out on the perimeter (at least better than TT) but Kornet at 7'2 also has the size to defend and rebound against Vucevic when Vucevic goes inside.

I want to see lots of Kornet this game, at least 15..maybe even 20+ mins. Put Kornet on Vucevic when he's out there.

Looks like Time Lord and Fournier have been ruled out and Brown, Tatum and Kemba are all on injury report as either questionable or probably. So knock on wood, hopefully everyone else plays except Time Lord and Fournier. If Walker/Brown/Tatum all play, I can see us blowing the Bulls out and then that way, our starters can rest up in the 4th quarter. Then hopefully we have a full team for the first time with EVERYBODY healthy and ready to play on Thursday..

The boldface is just wrong. Thompson is the best perimeter-defending big on this team outside of Grant and frankly one of the better perimeter defending bigs in the league. It's his biggest strength outside of rebounding.

Gasol got those open threes the other night because we were icing screen and rolls to the sideline and the guard was making no effort to contain their man. Thompson has to contain the ballhandler in time for the guard to recover before he can get out to the perimeter. Our problem is we were icing pick-and-rolls before Gasol even decided he was going to set a pick. That and there was no weakside rotation to contain Gasol (not that there should be). Take a look for yourself.



Towns made one three in a Thompson pick and roll because Thompson called switch and Smart stayed with his man. Thompson's real weakness on defense is protecting the rim. Stevens or Ainge would tell you he's great on the perimeter.

What I see when I watch the games is Thompson and Tacko staying home in the paint even when the opposing big floats out to the perimeter, whereas Time Lord and Kornet actually get out there and defend opposing bigs when they float out to the perimeter.

In the Gasol video you posted:
:19 wide open shot by Gasol from just inside the foul line, Thompson nowhere near him
:30 Gasol with a wide open 3. Thompson defending Gasol on the play but not anywhere near close enough to disrupt the shot in any way
1:01 Gasol at top of key with the ball, Thompson stays home inside, giving Gasol way too much space to comfortably get the shot off (even though Gasol is not a threat to put the ball on the floor and drive)
1:09 Same thing again..Gasol at top of key with the ball, Thompson stays home inside, giving Gasol way too much space to comfortably get the shot off
1:30 TT too slow closing out on Gasol, Gasol has tons of space as he catches the ball on the perimeter, left wide open for another 3

I've gotta admit, though. I'm impressed. You sound like you have some crazy insider info. You somehow heard Thompson call for a switch on that play vs Minnesota (maybe you were there in the front row?) and you actively speak with both Ainge and Stevens to know specifically what they think about TT's perimeter defense (unless you saw some interviews but chose not to link them here for some reason?)

Also, Time Lord defends Towns very closely out on the perimeter at the 3:45 mark of this video, and also at the 3:21 mark of that vid the C's had some confusion defending that screen, which left Towns open from top of the key, but still Time Lord was able to at least get close enough to Towns as he released the shot to disrupt it a little bit, he closed out on the shot quicker than what we saw from TT when defending Gasol in those clips from the Lakers game.



You see it one way, and I see it another. We can have different opinions. It doesn't mean one of us is wrong.

Also, at the :28 mark of this video, Gasol has the ball top of the key but Kornet closes out on him better and defends him closer so Gasol doesn't even think about shooting it:

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Post#19 » by AKFO » Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:52 am

3 of those threes against the Lakers were exactly as I said; the guard ices the non-existent "pick" and Thompson has to drop down to prevent a wide open layup. Even at 1:09, plenty of capable-shooting bigs get left open early in the shot clock under the assumption they'll move the ball. I understand he may have been hot but he wasn't open because Thompson's "too slow."

Same on the Towns 3; it was a miscommunication, not that Thompson is too slow.

Teams score hundreds of points a game and use the pick and roll as their main weapon to do so. You can nitpick possessions like that for anyone, and I'm sure you could find plenty of possessions where TT is standing in front of Gasol on the perimeter too :lol:

I don't know how to explain to y'all that perimeter defense and switchability is one of TT's greatest assets on the court and he wouldn't be close to as useful or worth signing if that weren't the case.

Regardless, I'm not tryna derail this thread so go ahead and go for the last laugh if you want.
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