Miami Heat Regular Season/Speculation Thread 2021 Part 3

[twix2500]

I don't know how reliable this person is...

Read on Twitter

I think he is reliable, but this is not an official announcement. Dipo is trying to eat lol.

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[SA37]

Interesting article about Nunn off the court:

https://theundefeated.com/features/miami-heat-guard-kendrick-nunn-helping-single-fathers/

[Dr_Heat]

Bish’s boy Julius Randle is something else. Guy has really become an double double machine. Oof, wish we had gone for him when he was available.

[Bishop45]

1. I wouldn't trade Bam for Harden because no team offered anything close to Bam and because Harden is a lot older.

I was willing to give up everyone besides Bam and Jimmy despite really disliking Harden's game and personality, and that's because I appreciated his skillset as very valuable.

2. I preferred Giannis mainly due to health/age and the character fit with Heat Org, but in hindsight you're right - Harden was the better fit here. His skillset is exactly what we need here next to Jimmy and Bam.

I think a "carful rebuild" is overstating what we need - we just need Oladipo to get back to 90% of his prime or make 1 good trade for a Beal/Lavine type player.

If you add that kind of player to this mix we'll be very good. That's basically what Dragic gave us last playoffs.

I can respect the admission on number 2

But curious, you wouldn't trade Bam straight up for either one of Harden/Steph? And if you would, adding Herro makes it a hard no?

How is that relevant? we know that's a fantasy trade.

You're asking if we should trade a young developing star that hasn't entered his prime yet for a superstar that is exiting his. I guess that depends on the context - what are the following moves? you better win big in the next 2 years if you're making that trade.

If we add Curry and lose Bam and Herro - are we winning the East? we'll have no front court at all.

It's relevant to my curiosity, just testing for sanity

You wouldn't trade Bam for Curry or Harden because we would lack a front court player? Or/and lose borderline/possible All-stars?

Does that sound sane? I don't know if it does but I'm biased cause I really like those players and I put a lot of value on Superstar talent.

I don't think our possibility of winning a championship with Bam/Herro are anywhere near the same or would be anywhere near as high than with Harden or Curry-- but maybe you're not judging this trade on the ability to win one championship?

[MettaWorldPanda]

Oladipo MRI did not show any new injury. Probably dealing with tendonitis. Maybe could get him back in a few weeks.

[AirP.]

Woj update on Oladipo...

[twix2500]

Woj update on Oladipo...

He said absolutely nothing

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[carnageta]

We need to buckle the fk down and win the next 5 games in a row.

[Kobewade11]

Bish’s boy Julius Randle is something else. Guy has really become an double double machine. Oof, wish we had gone for him when he was available.

Does anybody here honestly believe Spo would play Bam with Julius Randle? He prefers the type of four he can box into a “3 and D” role.

[wadenation305]

Bish’s boy Julius Randle is something else. Guy has really become an double double machine. Oof, wish we had gone for him when he was available.

Does anybody here honestly believe Spo would play Bam with Julius Randle? He prefers the type of four he can box into a “3 and D” role.

Randle too tall for spo

[MettaWorldPanda]

Tomorrow Moe Wagner should clear waivers. Hope it’s a quick signing.

[RexBoyWonder]

I can respect the admission on number 2

But curious, you wouldn't trade Bam straight up for either one of Harden/Steph? And if you would, adding Herro makes it a hard no?

How is that relevant? we know that's a fantasy trade.

You're asking if we should trade a young developing star that hasn't entered his prime yet for a superstar that is exiting his. I guess that depends on the context - what are the following moves? you better win big in the next 2 years if you're making that trade.

If we add Curry and lose Bam and Herro - are we winning the East? we'll have no front court at all.

It's relevant to my curiosity, just testing for sanity

You wouldn't trade Bam for Curry or Harden because we would lack a front court player? Or/and lose borderline/possible All-stars?

Does that sound sane? I don't know if it does but I'm biased cause I really like those players and I put a lot of value on Superstar talent.

I don't think our possibility of winning a championship with Bam/Herro are anywhere near the same or would be anywhere near as high than with Harden or Curry-- but maybe you're not judging this trade on the ability to win one championship?

What I'm saying is that context matters.

If We lose Bam and Herro and add Curry, what kind of a chance would you give us to win the East? 5%? 10%?

Is that chance high enough for us to give up 10 years of future Bam for 2 years of Curry?

If you're selling your future, you better make sure your present is golden.

Curry
Duncan
Jimmy
Ariza
Precious

I don't think this team is good enough for us to mortgage our future for. If you think we can make following moves to strengthen the team and truly contend, then it could be more appealing.

You can't look at a huge "Win now" move and not examine the overall context - are you really giving yourself a high chance to win.

To me the move to make is not to trade Bam or Jimmy but to trade everyone else and add a true 3'rd star, even if that star isn't on Curry's level.

[twix2500]

I think from here on out the following rotations should be:

PG: Nunn, Dragic/Oladipo
SG: Butler - Herro
SF: Robinson - Iggy - Strus
PF: Ariza - Okpala/Jelly
Ce: Adebayo - Dedmon/Achiuwa

Dragic and Dipo should rotate games. One player plays other takes day off. Okpala/Dedmon combo and Achiuwa/Jelly combo should rotate games

[contract]

If We lose Bam and Herro and add Curry, what kind of a chance would you give us to win the East? 5%? 10%?

Is that chance high enough for us to give up 10 years of future Bam for 2 years of Curry?

10 years is a bad number to work with. Bam is under contract for 5 more years with no guarantees beyond that. In fact 5 years aren't guaranteed. Bam could become unhappy and force a trade before his contract is up.

[RexBoyWonder]

I just pray Dipo can come back strong soon. It can make everything click. Dipo even if not very efficient has the type of game and mentality to be a first offensive option, even if not a great first option. Then Jimmy and Bam are golden as second and third options, and everyone else feeds off that and don't force.

Dipo
Duncan
Jimmy
Bam

Then the fifth starter/finisher is either Ariza for small ball or Dedmon for regular ball.

If those 6 + Goran are healthy, we can become dangerous by playoffs time.

[contract]

I just pray Dipo can come back strong soon. It can make everything click. Dipo even if not very efficient has the type of game and mentality to be a first offensive option, even if not a great first option. Then Jimmy and Bam are golden as second and third options, and everyone else feeds off that and don't force.

Dipo
Duncan
Jimmy
Bam

Then the fifth starter/finisher is either Ariza for small ball or Dedmon for regular ball.

If those 6 + Goran are healthy, we can become dangerous by playoffs time.

At this point even Philly Cheese is starting to sound good.

[Bhut Jolokia]

I only want these 10 players to play. The rest can play if there is an emergency (injury / foul trouble)

Oladipo / Dragic
Duncan / Herro / Nunn
Butler
Ariza / Iggy
Bam / Dedmon

[BenoUdrihFTL]

I just want Herro's mins capped at 20 until he can hit at least 38% of his 3s for a decent stretch of games. Because if he isn't shooting efficiently then he's absolutely murdering us on both sides of the ball. I get that Herro's development is an important objective for Spo but it's shouldn't take priority over the team itself

[Atm365]

Tomorrow Moe Wagner should clear waivers. Hope it’s a quick signing.

He’s not playoff eligible.

[twix2500]

I just pray Dipo can come back strong soon. It can make everything click. Dipo even if not very efficient has the type of game and mentality to be a first offensive option, even if not a great first option. Then Jimmy and Bam are golden as second and third options, and everyone else feeds off that and don't force.

Dipo
Duncan
Jimmy
Bam

Then the fifth starter/finisher is either Ariza for small ball or Dedmon for regular ball.

If those 6 + Goran are healthy, we can become dangerous by playoffs time.

I am not expecting much from him when or if he returns. He was playing tentative because of his knee. As soon he he faced his fears and tried to push himself, he injuries his knee again. I cant expect him to be confident when he returns.