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Re: Premier League 2020/2021 

Post#761 » by and1GS » Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:40 pm

HIF wrote:The champion's league ought to go back to being a knockout tournament between league champions. It won't because greedy people run the teams and the sport. It's amazing that Spurs have been a regular in the champion's league when they haven't won a title since 1961.


Why is that 'amazing'? They qualify for CL, they play in CL.

I'm not familiar with the old format, but only admitting the victors of each league sounds quite lame to me. It also discourages the great end of season battles we see for Europe spots (at least in EPL). It sounds much more greedy to only admit the league champion (usually a hugely wealthy club) then shower them with more money rather than spreading it across 32 (or the upcoming 36) entrants in a single competition.
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Re: Premier League 2020/2021 

Post#762 » by Foye » Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:12 pm

Lets appreciate Jose Mourinho a little bit here.

Man obviously quit his job the minute that Tottenham did something that was against his idea of football. Gotta respect him for that.
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Re: Premier League 2020/2021 

Post#763 » by Young Stapler » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:39 am

If Arsenal go through with this I will disown my allegiance with the club.
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Re: Premier League 2020/2021 

Post#764 » by HIF » Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:33 am

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HIF wrote:The champion's league ought to go back to being a knockout tournament between league champions. It won't because greedy people run the teams and the sport. It's amazing that Spurs have been a regular in the champion's league when they haven't won a title since 1961.


Why is that 'amazing'? They qualify for CL, they play in CL.

I'm not familiar with the old format, but only admitting the victors of each league sounds quite lame to me. It also discourages the great end of season battles we see for Europe spots (at least in EPL). It sounds much more greedy to only admit the league champion (usually a hugely wealthy club) then shower them with more money rather than spreading it across 32 (or the upcoming 36) entrants in a single competition.


It's called the "Champion's League" and yet some teams haven't been champions for over 50 years that why it's amazing. We used to have a cup for the league winners and a cup for the cup winners but that was before money started to take over everyone's minds. It wasn't about wealth it was about the title of being the best in Europe.

I understand the move towards money creation with the CL structure but it's not a champion's league it's a European league.
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Re: Premier League 2020/2021 

Post#765 » by HIF » Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:34 am

Foye wrote:Lets appreciate Jose Mourinho a little bit here.

Man obviously quit his job the minute that Tottenham did something that was against his idea of football. Gotta respect him for that.


I like josé but I don't think that's the case.
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Re: Premier League 2020/2021 

Post#766 » by HIF » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:06 am

Did Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal furlough their staff? I hope they'll be paying them double with the 350bn they get.

And maybe Arsenal can afford the dinosaur mascot.
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Re: Premier League 2020/2021 

Post#767 » by queridiculo » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:21 am

HIF wrote:
Foye wrote:Lets appreciate Jose Mourinho a little bit here.

Man obviously quit his job the minute that Tottenham did something that was against his idea of football. Gotta respect him for that.


I like josé but I don't think that's the case.


The game passed Mourinho by a long long time ago, and his insufferable antics make it really hard to have any sympathy for the man.

Good riddance, I am glad his style of football is something that we have to put up with less and less these days.
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Re: Premier League 2020/2021 

Post#768 » by The_Brecht » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:07 pm

HIF wrote:Did Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal furlough their staff? I hope they'll be paying them double with the 350bn they get.

And maybe Arsenal can afford the dinosaur mascot.


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Re: Premier League 2020/2021 

Post#769 » by HIF » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:17 pm

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HIF wrote:Did Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal furlough their staff? I hope they'll be paying them double with the 350bn they get.

And maybe Arsenal can afford the dinosaur mascot.


Kroenke will put it in his pockets.
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I'm pretty sure he will.

Getting billionaires in for football clubs is all fine and good but if they have no respect for the history of the club or the sport then they shouldn't be allowed in.

Leicester were blessed.
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Re: Premier League 2020/2021 

Post#770 » by HIF » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:29 pm

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Re: Premier League 2020/2021 

Post#771 » by wco81 » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:30 pm

HIF wrote:
and1GS wrote:
HIF wrote:The champion's league ought to go back to being a knockout tournament between league champions. It won't because greedy people run the teams and the sport. It's amazing that Spurs have been a regular in the champion's league when they haven't won a title since 1961.


Why is that 'amazing'? They qualify for CL, they play in CL.

I'm not familiar with the old format, but only admitting the victors of each league sounds quite lame to me. It also discourages the great end of season battles we see for Europe spots (at least in EPL). It sounds much more greedy to only admit the league champion (usually a hugely wealthy club) then shower them with more money rather than spreading it across 32 (or the upcoming 36) entrants in a single competition.


It's called the "Champion's League" and yet some teams haven't been champions for over 50 years that why it's amazing. We used to have a cup for the league winners and a cup for the cup winners but that was before money started to take over everyone's minds. It wasn't about wealth it was about the title of being the best in Europe.

I understand the move towards money creation with the CL structure but it's not a champion's league it's a European league.


Mainly a money grab but UEFA revenues from CL and Europa League flow back, at least some of it, to national associations and they're able to fund things like youth programs and such.
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Re: Premier League 2020/2021 

Post#772 » by HIF » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:17 am

I'd just like to make it clear that in all my talk about greed and punishment I'm not referring to the fans (most fans) of these 6 English clubs. I'm talking about their present owners. I have the utmost respect for the fans of these clubs and especially those who post week in and week out on this forum.

I'm sure that you are also ashamed of the owners of your clubs.
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Re: Premier League 2020/2021 

Post#773 » by Baphomet » Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:43 pm

I legitimately hate this team as presently constructed.

Without Kane we're relegation level.
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Re: Premier League 2020/2021 

Post#774 » by Foye » Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:51 pm

Baphomet wrote:I legitimately hate this team as presently constructed.

Without Kane we're relegation level.

At least Super relegation level.
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Re: Premier League 2020/2021 

Post#775 » by Baphomet » Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:58 pm

Foye wrote:
Baphomet wrote:I legitimately hate this team as presently constructed.

Without Kane we're relegation level.

At least Super relegation level.


:lol:

As if we needed any more proof that at the moment Spurs don't even belong in the Europa League, let alone a Super League.
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Re: Premier League 2020/2021 

Post#776 » by Foye » Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:17 pm

Baphomet wrote:
Foye wrote:
Baphomet wrote:I legitimately hate this team as presently constructed.

Without Kane we're relegation level.

At least Super relegation level.


:lol:

As if we needed any more proof that at the moment Spurs don't even belong in the Europa League, let alone a Super League.

Scored 5 seconds after I turned the match on.
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Re: Premier League 2020/2021 

Post#777 » by Baphomet » Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:18 pm

Foye wrote:
Baphomet wrote:
Foye wrote:At least Super relegation level.


:lol:

As if we needed any more proof that at the moment Spurs don't even belong in the Europa League, let alone a Super League.

Scored 5 seconds after I turned the match on.


Mourinho's biggest failing was dropping guys like Bale after one bad performance. He's clearly a class above the rest of this team when Kane isn't playing.
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Re: Premier League 2020/2021 

Post#778 » by Foye » Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:21 pm

Baphomet wrote:
Foye wrote:
Baphomet wrote:
:lol:

As if we needed any more proof that at the moment Spurs don't even belong in the Europa League, let alone a Super League.

Scored 5 seconds after I turned the match on.


Mourinho's biggest failing was dropping guys like Bale after one bad performance. He's clearly a class above the rest of this team when Kane isn't playing.

Havent seen a lot Tottenham lately but based on this past few minutes it seems Tottenham‘s biggest failure is too much dribbling instead of actually playing together as a unit.
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Re: Premier League 2020/2021 

Post#779 » by Baphomet » Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:24 pm

Foye wrote:Havent seen a lot Tottenham lately but based on this past few minutes it seems Tottenham‘s biggest failure is too much dribbling instead of actually playing together as a unit.


On a tactical level yes, there's no real outlet or cohesion in the way that they play. No quality ball player in midfield. This rot started at the end of Poch's tenure, when it became clear that some players weren't up to standard, and the club never replaced the likes of Eriksen in the transfer market. Lo Celso and Ndombele are deeper box-to-box midfielders in a 433 like this, not hole players or number 10s.

Basically, Kane has to drop deep like a false 9 to produce any quality in the final third.
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Re: Premier League 2020/2021 

Post#780 » by Baphomet » Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:36 pm

Lucas has been Southampton's best player

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