Joel Embiid

mithrandir17 · Post #801 » by **mithrandir17** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:01 pm

How many games did Joel miss because of health and safety protocol? Because I am seeing many arguments of Joel missed 18 games so he should not be the MVP when he only really missed 10 games because of injury. Maybe it is fair to include his missed games due to rest on back to backs but to include games missed because of health and safety protocol is not fair IMO.

eyeatoma · Post #802 » by **eyeatoma** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:01 pm

mithrandir17 wrote:How many games did Joel miss because of health and safety protocol? Because I am seeing many arguments of Joel missed 18 games so he should not be the MVP when he only really missed 10 games because of injury. Maybe it is fair to include his missed games due to rest on back to backs but to include games missed because of health and safety protocol is not fair IMO.

I believe 1 after all-star break, and 1 early in the season, but I'm not sure if that game was made up.

Post #803 » by **Sixerscan** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:01 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
mithrandir17 wrote:How many games did Joel miss because of health and safety protocol? Because I am seeing many arguments of Joel missed 18 games so he should not be the MVP when he only really missed 10 games because of injury. Maybe it is fair to include his missed games due to rest on back to backs but to include games missed because of health and safety protocol is not fair IMO.

I believe 1 after all-star break, and 1 early in the season, but I'm not sure if that game was made up.

Just the Chicago game. Others were injury.

syntax · Post #804 » by **syntax** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:08 pm

Jojo is odds on favourite to win it.

Joel Embiid +240
Giannis Antetokounmpo +1200
James Harden +1200
LeBron James +1600

eyeatoma · Post #805 » by **eyeatoma** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:13 pm

syntax wrote:Jojo is odds on favourite to win it.

Joel Embiid +240
Giannis Antetokounmpo +1200
James Harden +1200
LeBron James +1600

Source? Where's Jokic lol.

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syntax · Post #806 » by **syntax** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:17 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
syntax wrote:Jojo is odds on favourite to win it.

Joel Embiid +240
Giannis Antetokounmpo +1200
James Harden +1200
LeBron James +1600
Source? Where's Jokic lol.

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I just copied it from google, if you visit the site:

Nikola Jokic -225
Joel Embiid +240
Giannis Antetokounmpo +1200
James Harden +1200
LeBron James +1600

Post #807 » by **Stanford** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:18 pm

syntax wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
syntax wrote:Jojo is odds on favourite to win it.

Joel Embiid +240
Giannis Antetokounmpo +1200
James Harden +1200
LeBron James +1600
Source? Where's Jokic lol.

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I just copied it from google, if you visit the site:

Nikola Jokic -225
Joel Embiid +240
Giannis Antetokounmpo +1200
James Harden +1200
LeBron James +1600

So he's not the favorite

syntax · Post #808 » by **syntax** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:20 pm

Stanford wrote:
syntax wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Source? Where's Jokic lol.

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I just copied it from google, if you visit the site:

Nikola Jokic -225
Joel Embiid +240
Giannis Antetokounmpo +1200
James Harden +1200
LeBron James +1600

So he's not the favorite

He's close

eyeatoma · Post #809 » by **eyeatoma** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:50 pm

syntax wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
syntax wrote:Jojo is odds on favourite to win it.

Joel Embiid +240
Giannis Antetokounmpo +1200
James Harden +1200
LeBron James +1600
Source? Where's Jokic lol.

Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk

I just copied it from google, if you visit the site:

Nikola Jokic -225
Joel Embiid +240
Giannis Antetokounmpo +1200
James Harden +1200
LeBron James +1600

Then Embiid isn't the favorite.

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mithrandir17 · Post #810 » by **mithrandir17** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:22 am

Sixerscan wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
mithrandir17 wrote:How many games did Joel miss because of health and safety protocol? Because I am seeing many arguments of Joel missed 18 games so he should not be the MVP when he only really missed 10 games because of injury. Maybe it is fair to include his missed games due to rest on back to backs but to include games missed because of health and safety protocol is not fair IMO.

I believe 1 after all-star break, and 1 early in the season, but I'm not sure if that game was made up.

Just the Chicago game. Others were injury.

How about the nuggets game where we only played 7 players? I think that was the first game after Curry got the covid. Did they just rest him knowing we wont win the game anyway or is he part of the protocol?

Post #811 » by **Sixerscan** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:24 am

mithrandir17 wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
I believe 1 after all-star break, and 1 early in the season, but I'm not sure if that game was made up.

Just the Chicago game. Others were injury.

How about the nuggets game where we only played 7 players? I think that was the first game after Curry got the covid. Did they just rest him knowing we wont win the game anyway or is he part of the protocol?

Probably the former but he was officially listed out with an injury.

76ciology · Post #812 » by **76ciology** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:33 am

Jokic is playing well and I dont really care about these awards. But it wouldnt be nice to win the MVP just because you played more games than the other guys who played better.

elchengue20 · Post #813 » by **elchengue20** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:15 pm

It will be between him and Jokic.Both are having fantastic numbers and impact. It would be refreshing to see a C winning the MVP, so the narrative part is also in their favour.

Jokic has an advantage because he's played 50% more games than him. That's a lot.

I think the only way for Biid to win is to not miss anymore games and to finish the season strong securing at least the 1st seed in the East(and a top 3 seed in the league), while Denver struggles a bit with Murray out.

thenbaman · Post #814 » by **thenbaman** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:25 pm

Embiid is the better player on both ends of the floor hands down.
They can give the award to who ever they want.

TTP · Post #815 » by **TTP** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:17 pm

syntax wrote:
Stanford wrote:
syntax wrote:
I just copied it from google, if you visit the site:

Nikola Jokic -225
Joel Embiid +240
Giannis Antetokounmpo +1200
James Harden +1200
LeBron James +1600

So he's not the favorite

He's close

FWIW these numbers (without accounting for vig) mean Jokic is ~69% to win and Embiid is ~29%. In reality, the % of the time they think Embiid will win will be slightly less.

the_process · Post #816 » by **the_process** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:10 pm

What’s going to be annoying is how Embiid will be 2nd team All-NBA again even with other worldly production.

Post #817 » by **Sixerscan** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:10 pm

the_process wrote:What’s going to be annoying is how Embiid will be 2nd team All-NBA again even with other worldly production.

Because the nba insists on going with positions still, which is ironically because people thought if you didn’t keep positions then centers would never make the first team.

mithrandir17 · Post #818 » by **mithrandir17** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:19 pm

With regards to the argument that Jokic should be the MVP because he hasn't missed games, then the Nuggets should have won more if Jokic played more games than Embiid. Is availability more important than winning games?

Sixers are 30-10 with Embiid playing and the Nuggets are 38-20 with Jokic playing. The Nuggets just won 8 more games when Jokic played. If the season ended where the difference in their wins is significantly more than just 8 games, then Jokic should be the MVP because of the wins he helped generating, not just because he played more games than Embiid.

snoopdogg88 · Post #819 » by **snoopdogg88** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:45 pm

Finals MVP is the only one I care about.

AI winning in 2001 was great, but I would’ve swapped that for 3 more wins against the Lakers in a second.

Negrodamus · Post #820 » by **Negrodamus** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:52 pm

snoopdogg88 wrote:Finals MVP is the only one I care about.

AI winning in 2001 was great, but I would’ve swapped that for 3 more wins against the Lakers in a second.

Well, as you might have noted, we have a history of building stupid teams around one great player.