Curry V Magic

[whatisacenter]

Curry himself can be a wet noodle. But his play! His play demands to be appreciated for the iconoclastic performance it is.

Then let his iconic play speak for itself and don’t let the lack of appreciation by others bother you.

That's like saying watch him play and solemnly internalize his greatness.

No! I will exclaim in shock, babble uncontrollably at how awesome what he did was, and heap upon it rapturous praise.

That's half the fun.

Heck, if you stopped there that would be cool but you go all evangelical and want to convert everyone.

[WarriorGM]

Then let his iconic play speak for itself and don’t let the lack of appreciation by others bother you.

That's like saying watch him play and solemnly internalize his greatness.

No! I will exclaim in shock, babble uncontrollably at how awesome what he did was, and heap upon it rapturous praise.

That's half the fun.

Heck, if you stopped there that would be cool but you go all evangelical and want to convert everyone.

For the general board I'm just presenting his case and supporting data and responding to general silliness. I hold the Warriors forum to a slightly higher standard.

[70sFan]

So now having top 15 player ever ahead of Curry is "general silliness"?

[OdomFan]

curry is a scam



ID rather have magic , oscar, kidd, nash, payton Stockton, I THomas ( the real I thomas) to play point for my team.
Probably there are other pgs id take over curry.


BTw magic lead a **** 90-91 roster to the finals, seriously it was an injured and old worhty, a bunch of old corpses like scott, thompson, drew, teagle, and a couple of green youngsters far from ready in divac and campbell.

Having Thomas, Kidd or Payton over Curry is laughable at this point.

Good point with 1991 Lakers though, this team had no business in reaching the finals.

I don't see it as laughable at all. All of those guys are better point guards than Curry. He's just a better scorer/shooter. Yes I will take Payton or Kidd because unlike Curry they brought it on a high level offensively as well as defensively. Isiah Thomas would get more respect than he has gotten if he hadn't been as unlikable as he was but hey. That's on him. As a player though I see nothing wrong with someone preferring him as their teams starting point guard over him. A prime Isiah led team would compete just fine against a Curry team.

[PD28]

Love when posters ride a single players d*** and just keep pushing the narrative. No way Curry will ever be called the GOAT hahahah

WarriorGM believes that you have to be Curry hater to have Magic over Curry. That should tell you all you need to know.

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[OdomFan]

greatest PG of all time.

Curry is #2 on my list now ahead of Oscar.

Is Curry even a better point guard than Chris Paul or Steve Nash?

He sure can't run systems like them.

Don get me wrong, Curry is the greatest shooting point guard or greatest guard to ever shoot (PG or SG), but he is not a better point guard than Chris Paul.

You mean is Curry a better passer? No. He wouldn't even crack the top 10 all time if we're talking about stictly passing. He's a better player than either though. That isn't even for debate.

Curry is the closest thing to Magic Johnson we have today. Different players. But both as iconic and legendary. The point guard community waiting 20+ years for another transcended PG and they finally got it.

How is Curry the better player if he's not nearly as good of a passer or defender? The only thing he has over most is his scoring/shooting, but there's more to the game than just shooting so your post here makes no sense. All you're really saying here is Curry is the more popular mainstream star.

[Raps in 4]

Is Curry even a better point guard than Chris Paul or Steve Nash?

He sure can't run systems like them.

Don get me wrong, Curry is the greatest shooting point guard or greatest guard to ever shoot (PG or SG), but he is not a better point guard than Chris Paul.

You mean is Curry a better passer? No. He wouldn't even crack the top 10 all time if we're talking about stictly passing. He's a better player than either though. That isn't even for debate.

Curry is the closest thing to Magic Johnson we have today. Different players. But both as iconic and legendary. The point guard community waiting 20+ years for another transcended PG and they finally got it.

How is Curry the better player if he's not nearly as good of a passer or defender? The only thing he has over most is his scoring/shooting, but there's more to the game than just shooting so your post here makes no sense. All you're really saying here is Curry is the more popular mainstream star.

A player can be so good at one facet of the game that it puts them ahead of another more well-rounded player in terms of overall impact.

[OdomFan]

You mean is Curry a better passer? No. He wouldn't even crack the top 10 all time if we're talking about stictly passing. He's a better player than either though. That isn't even for debate.

Curry is the closest thing to Magic Johnson we have today. Different players. But both as iconic and legendary. The point guard community waiting 20+ years for another transcended PG and they finally got it.

How is Curry the better player if he's not nearly as good of a passer or defender? The only thing he has over most is his scoring/shooting, but there's more to the game than just shooting so your post here makes no sense. All you're really saying here is Curry is the more popular mainstream star.

A player can be so good at one facet of the game that it puts them ahead of another more well-rounded player in terms of overall impact.

I don't believe in BS like that. If a player is elite at both ends of the floor they're better than someone who focuses on 1 thing primarily. Standing by that. Currys scoring ability makes him a better scorer than others, not overall better player. Overall better player literally is the definition of being great at multiple things.

[Raps in 4]

How is Curry the better player if he's not nearly as good of a passer or defender? The only thing he has over most is his scoring/shooting, but there's more to the game than just shooting so your post here makes no sense. All you're really saying here is Curry is the more popular mainstream star.

A player can be so good at one facet of the game that it puts them ahead of another more well-rounded player in terms of overall impact.

I don't believe in BS like that. If a player is elite at both ends of the floor they're better than someone who focuses on 1 thing primarily. Standing by that. Currys scoring ability makes him a better scorer than others, not overall better player. Overall better player literally is the definition of being great at multiple things.

Do you consider Kawhi or Giannis to be better players than Curry?

[rtiff68]

You mean is Curry a better passer? No. He wouldn't even crack the top 10 all time if we're talking about stictly passing. He's a better player than either though. That isn't even for debate.

Curry is the closest thing to Magic Johnson we have today. Different players. But both as iconic and legendary. The point guard community waiting 20+ years for another transcended PG and they finally got it.

How is Curry the better player if he's not nearly as good of a passer or defender? The only thing he has over most is his scoring/shooting, but there's more to the game than just shooting so your post here makes no sense. All you're really saying here is Curry is the more popular mainstream star.

A player can be so good at one facet of the game that it puts them ahead of another more well-rounded player in terms of overall impact.

...this, and also: when did Magic become some kind of impact defender? Saying that Steph "isn't nearly as good of a defender" is a bit of an overstatement. Both Magic and Curry are/were largely considered average-ish defenders; Magic led the league in steals twice, while Curry did it once.

[OdomFan]

A player can be so good at one facet of the game that it puts them ahead of another more well-rounded player in terms of overall impact.

I don't believe in BS like that. If a player is elite at both ends of the floor they're better than someone who focuses on 1 thing primarily. Standing by that. Currys scoring ability makes him a better scorer than others, not overall better player. Overall better player literally is the definition of being great at multiple things.

Do you consider Kawhi or Giannis to be better players than Curry?

Curry is better at scoring/shooting than them. That's it. They're both 2 way elite players so yes I'm taking them both over Curry. Wake me up when Curry gets good at defense.

[clyde21]

I don't believe in BS like that. If a player is elite at both ends of the floor they're better than someone who focuses on 1 thing primarily. Standing by that. Currys scoring ability makes him a better scorer than others, not overall better player. Overall better player literally is the definition of being great at multiple things.

Do you consider Kawhi or Giannis to be better players than Curry?

Curry is better at scoring/shooting than them. That's it. They're both 2 way elite players so yes I'm taking them both over Curry. Wake me up when Curry gets good at defense.

this is not how basketball works, if it did, you'd be talking about how you'd take Klay over Steph too.

[OdomFan]

How is Curry the better player if he's not nearly as good of a passer or defender? The only thing he has over most is his scoring/shooting, but there's more to the game than just shooting so your post here makes no sense. All you're really saying here is Curry is the more popular mainstream star.

A player can be so good at one facet of the game that it puts them ahead of another more well-rounded player in terms of overall impact.

...this, and also: when did Magic become some kind of impact defender? Saying that Steph "isn't nearly as good of a defender" is a bit of an overstatement. Both Magic and Curry are/were largely considered average-ish defenders; Magic led the league in steals twice, while Curry did it once.

Magic wasn't known for defensive stops but he atleast knew how to use his size and height to contest shots effectively better than Curry ever has.

[drchaos]

Steph just ain't even close to Magic.

Magic Johnson made everyone around him better with his passing but was a threat to score inside or oustide himself.

Forget about fouling him he was automatic at the line.

[OdomFan]

Do you consider Kawhi or Giannis to be better players than Curry?

Curry is better at scoring/shooting than them. That's it. They're both 2 way elite players so yes I'm taking them both over Curry. Wake me up when Curry gets good at defense.

this is not how basketball works, if it did, you'd be talking about how you'd take Klay over Steph too.

I'll take Klays defense over Currys, and if I pair Klay up with someone like CP3 my team will still be in fantastic shape. Klay paired up with Giannis or Leonard would also still be in fantastic shape and could win a basketball game or series against a Stephan Curry led squad. That very much is how the game works.

[Optms]

How is Curry the better player if he's not nearly as good of a passer or defender? The only thing he has over most is his scoring/shooting, but there's more to the game than just shooting so your post here makes no sense. All you're really saying here is Curry is the more popular mainstream star.

For starters, take Nash off the list because he was a worse defender than Curry. And Curry's shooting blows Nash's passing. Its not even up for debate which is worth more to a team.

Chris Paul on the other hand is a more complete player but he didn't revolutionize anything. And he does not put teams over the top. Curry does. He's a 2 time MVP for a reason. His shooting changed the culture of the game, broke records, set records and his production/skill set completey alters the game from the opening tip.

And of course Curry is more popular but he's popular for a reason. And that isn't because we like his personality. The mass popularity is due precislely becauase he changed the game. No one becomes this much of a household name without being an iconic player.

[OdomFan]

How is Curry the better player if he's not nearly as good of a passer or defender? The only thing he has over most is his scoring/shooting, but there's more to the game than just shooting so your post here makes no sense. All you're really saying here is Curry is the more popular mainstream star.

For starters, take Nash off the list because he was a worse defender than Curry. And Curry's shooting blows Nash's passing. Its not even up for debate which is worth more to a team.

Chris Paul on the other hand is a more complete player but he didn't revolutionize anything. And he does not put teams over the top. Curry does. He's a 2 time MVP for a reason. His shooting changed the culture of the game, broke records, set records and his production/skill set completey alters the game from the opening tip.

And of course Curry is more popular but he's popular for a reason. And that isn't because we like his personality. The mass popularity is due precislely becauase he changed the game. No one becomes this much of a household name without being an iconic player.

CHanging the game because of your scoring ability is nice and all, but it doesn't erase the fact that other players throughout history are/were still elite on the offensive side of the court, and also on the defensive side. Btw I never said anything about Nash being a good defender. He is however the better point guard between the two. Curry would be more effective with Nash running point for him.

[WarriorGM]

I don't believe in BS like that. If a player is elite at both ends of the floor they're better than someone who focuses on 1 thing primarily. Standing by that. Currys scoring ability makes him a better scorer than others, not overall better player. Overall better player literally is the definition of being great at multiple things.

Do you consider Kawhi or Giannis to be better players than Curry?

Curry is better at scoring/shooting than them. That's it. They're both 2 way elite players so yes I'm taking them both over Curry. Wake me up when Curry gets good at defense.

Curry is a far better playmaker than those two. Indeed he's a better playmaker than Magic!

Curry's offensive efficiency allows his team to do things other teams cannot. It's no accident that Curry has been on a number one defensive team. Magic hasn't, not even close from the looks of it.

[OdomFan]

Do you consider Kawhi or Giannis to be better players than Curry?

Curry is better at scoring/shooting than them. That's it. They're both 2 way elite players so yes I'm taking them both over Curry. Wake me up when Curry gets good at defense.

Curry is a far better playmaker than those two. Indeed he's a better playmaker than Magic!

Leonard and Giannis are not point Guards so that doesn't matter. As for Curry being better than Magic? Nah.

[clyde21]

Curry is better at scoring/shooting than them. That's it. They're both 2 way elite players so yes I'm taking them both over Curry. Wake me up when Curry gets good at defense.

this is not how basketball works, if it did, you'd be talking about how you'd take Klay over Steph too.

I'll take Klays defense over Currys, and if I pair Klay up with someone like CP3 my team will still be in fantastic shape. Klay paired up with Giannis or Leonard would also still be in fantastic shape and could win a basketball game or series against a Stephan Curry led squad. That very much is how the game works.

so you're taking Klay over Steph to start a team? that's the only logical conclusion here.