Knightro wrote:pepe1991 wrote:Versitality level - Deandre Jordan.
Just because he gets ball way more than other centers, doesn't make him anything special. It's virtually impossible to have good team with player that is 6'6 and can't shoot pass 3 feet.
Xat to you, every year you kept repeating same old "you are what you guard" thing, every single game. So what is Zion, who can't defend anybody? Nothing?
He averages 26 ppg because of 30% usage rate, boosted pace and fact nobody plays defense nor anybody is bothered to put their body on the line to stop 280 pounds man during non playoff game in middle of regular season.
His team, however, keeps on sucking and sucking for 2 years, despite having " 2 allstars"
And given his body type, no versitality and no ability to play in any other way or fashion but like fat wracking ball, it's just matter of time until his knees will be Blake- Griffined.
I'm sorry, but this is just such a goofy thing you're saying.
If other big men could do what Zion is doing and score this efficiently on this level of volume, every team in the the league would be allowing them to do it!
The reason why guys who score efficiently, like DeAndre, are typically super low usage is because their efficiency would drop like a rock if their volume increased.
THAT is what makes this so unique.
You say "he doesn't shoot outside of 3 feet" like that's a bad thing. But the reality is that we should be praising Zion for being the only player in basketball able to generate that many shot attempts a night from that distance and convert them at that high of a percentage.
Because most of nba offenses are in business of making team better, not in business of making star look "real good".
There is virtually no reason for any nba player, limited to shots inside 3 feet, to be fed with +25 balls in post a night.
Zion was already put in isolation plays 136 times this year, his points per possession (1,02) ranks him execlly in same spot Carmelo Anthony is ranked now.
Zion actually had more iso actions than Embiid, who is more effective and has 1,13 points per possession.
Let's go further.
Pick&roll action as rolling big.
He isn't even good pick&roll player. His 1,11 points per possesion doesn't even crack top 60 among players who were involved in at least 20 pick a rolls. Matter of fact rookie Wiseman is better pick&roll partner than Zion, hell, Taj Gipson is.
Basic postups, agian, very s***ty numbers. 1,00 ppp , 64,7 percentile, ranked . His postups are as valuable as Paschall and his or Marcus Smart and his.
So how EXECLLY He climbs up to 26 ppg despite not being good at anything? Well very simple. He has special treatment from refs. Almost every time he misses anything around rim, refs blow the wisttle and send him to the line. Hence, that's how guy who isn't really good at any set play , isn't ballhandler and isn't good at driving at set defense - averages 10 free trows a game.
The reason why guys who score efficiently, like DeAndre, are typically super low usage is because their efficiency would drop like a rock if their volume increased.
Bro, you are Orlando Magic fan, right, Dwight averaged 23 ppg on 63% TS and only reason why his TS% wasn't 68% or even 70% was because he shot 59% FTs. So if he could hit FTs at even respecful level, he would have been 28 ppg- 66% TS player and he would still NOT be great offensive player.
If there is anybody who with straight face can tell that Howard was good or great offensive player i don't really know what is there to say to him...
Our offense with Howard 10 shots a game was 4th best in nba ( 18 ppg ) , our offense with Howard averaging 13,5 shots a game dipped to 14#.
I don't find Zion bad, i just find his stats ugly inflated and overrated. Just like Trae averaging 30 never ment he is top 10 player nor Westbrooks triple double season ment he is top 5 in history. Numbers come from usage rate, if there is no winning that follows, they have no real value. Nobody would think Jordan is top 3 if he averaged 37 ppg and never passed first round of playoffs.
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