Official 2021 NBA Draft Thread Part 2

cedric76 · Post #41 » by **cedric76** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:40 am

If we land a top 3 pick, could we see Cade refuse to work out with other teams to force his way to Otown?
Why would he want to play for Detroit, min or houston, we offer him the best chance to play the playoff next season

i really hope we get cade

so many sexy lineup

Fultz-harris-cade-JI-WCJ
cade-harris-chuma-JI-WCJ
Fultz-harris-cade-chuma-JI

our guys r so versatile and 2 way players that we could be a nightmare to play against

RookieStar · Post #42 » by **RookieStar** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:50 am

MoMM wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
MoMM wrote:What?!?

Which one do you have a question with? I mean I read that when they interviewed Dwight, they used that cleaning the room/making the bed thing to prove that Dwight was mature enough and convinced them to draft him over Emeka.

If you are talking about Wiggins... cmon even Wiggins rookie year there were games when he was the next coming of Tmac. Sure the next 2-3 games he might stunk it up but he will show flashes again after that. lol

D12.

Seriously? You havent read that article or new piece? I think I read it before from the orlando sentinel. not reallt sure. any other old timers remember that?

RookieStar · Post #43 » by **RookieStar** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:55 am

cedric76 wrote:If we land a top 3 pick, could we see Cade refuse to work out with other teams to force his way to Otown?
Why would he want to play for Detroit, min or houston, we offer him the best chance to play the playoff next season

i really hope we get cade

so many sexy lineup

Fultz-harris-cade-JI-WCJ
cade-harris-chuma-JI-WCJ
Fultz-harris-cade-chuma-JI

our guys r so versatile and 2 way players that we could be a nightmare to play against

Unless we get the #1 pick I dont think theres any chance we get Cade. Unless something happens during workout/interview/medical. Thats why in the back of my mind im gearing up for a

Fultz - Suggs - Chuma - JI - WCJ
Fultz - Harris - Green - JI - WCJ

JBSouthpaw · Post #44 » by **JBSouthpaw** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:08 am

cedric76 wrote:If we land a top 3 pick, could we see Cade refuse to work out with other teams to force his way to Otown?
Why would he want to play for Detroit, min or houston, we offer him the best chance to play the playoff next season

i really hope we get cade

so many sexy lineup

Fultz-harris-cade-JI-WCJ
cade-harris-chuma-JI-WCJ
Fultz-harris-cade-chuma-JI

our guys r so versatile and 2 way players that we could be a nightmare to play against

0% chance this happens.
1st, every player wants to go #1 overall.
2nd, there is about 2M per season difference in salary from 1st to 3rd

basketballRob · Post #45 » by **basketballRob** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:16 am

cedric76 wrote:If we land a top 3 pick, could we see Cade refuse to work out with other teams to force his way to Otown?
Why would he want to play for Detroit, min or houston, we offer him the best chance to play the playoff next season

i really hope we get cade

so many sexy lineup

Fultz-harris-cade-JI-WCJ
cade-harris-chuma-JI-WCJ
Fultz-harris-cade-chuma-JI

our guys r so versatile and 2 way players that we could be a nightmare to play against

I like the one where Cade would play PG along side of Harris. Harris looks like our best PG defender.

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basketballRob · Post #46 » by **basketballRob** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:22 am

JBSouthpaw wrote:
cedric76 wrote:If we land a top 3 pick, could we see Cade refuse to work out with other teams to force his way to Otown?
Why would he want to play for Detroit, min or houston, we offer him the best chance to play the playoff next season

i really hope we get cade

so many sexy lineup

Fultz-harris-cade-JI-WCJ
cade-harris-chuma-JI-WCJ
Fultz-harris-cade-chuma-JI

our guys r so versatile and 2 way players that we could be a nightmare to play against

0% chance this happens.
1st, every player wants to go #1 overall.
2nd, there is about 2M per season difference in salary from 1st to 3rd

If we had the 3rd pick it would be possible to trade up, if Cade desired to play in Orlando. It would probably cost our Chicago pick and the 3rd. Would it be worth trading like Mobley and Kispert for Cade? Trades happen like this all the time, when a player desires to play in a certain city. I believe Kobe wanted to play in LA when he was drafted, so Charlotte traded him for Vlade. At the time it looked like Charlotte got a steal.

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JBSouthpaw · Post #47 » by **JBSouthpaw** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:52 am

basketballRob wrote:
JBSouthpaw wrote:
cedric76 wrote:If we land a top 3 pick, could we see Cade refuse to work out with other teams to force his way to Otown?
Why would he want to play for Detroit, min or houston, we offer him the best chance to play the playoff next season

i really hope we get cade

so many sexy lineup

Fultz-harris-cade-JI-WCJ
cade-harris-chuma-JI-WCJ
Fultz-harris-cade-chuma-JI

our guys r so versatile and 2 way players that we could be a nightmare to play against

0% chance this happens.
1st, every player wants to go #1 overall.
2nd, there is about 2M per season difference in salary from 1st to 3rd
If we had the 3rd pick it would be possible to trade up, if Cade desired to play in Orlando. It would probably cost our Chicago pick and the 3rd. Would it be worth trading like Mobley and Kispert for Cade? Trades happen like this all the time, when a player desires to play in a certain city. I believe Kobe wanted to play in LA when he was drafted, so Charlotte traded him for Vlade. At the time it looked like Charlotte got a steal.

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IF the front office thinks he is the cornerstone of the franchise, then yes, I'd trade the Chicago pick to move up, no question.

tiderulz · Post #48 » by **tiderulz** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:37 pm

cedric76 wrote:If we land a top 3 pick, could we see Cade refuse to work out with other teams to force his way to Otown?
Why would he want to play for Detroit, min or houston, we offer him the best chance to play the playoff next season

i really hope we get cade

so many sexy lineup

Fultz-harris-cade-JI-WCJ
cade-harris-chuma-JI-WCJ
Fultz-harris-cade-chuma-JI

our guys r so versatile and 2 way players that we could be a nightmare to play against

speaking objectively, how does Orlando offer the best chance for playoff? The 3 key players that took us to playoffs were all traded away. and then he has to rely on a PG that cant shoot from the outside and a PF that cant stay healthy.

basketballRob · Post #49 » by **basketballRob** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:43 pm

tiderulz wrote:
cedric76 wrote:If we land a top 3 pick, could we see Cade refuse to work out with other teams to force his way to Otown?
Why would he want to play for Detroit, min or houston, we offer him the best chance to play the playoff next season

i really hope we get cade

so many sexy lineup

Fultz-harris-cade-JI-WCJ
cade-harris-chuma-JI-WCJ
Fultz-harris-cade-chuma-JI

our guys r so versatile and 2 way players that we could be a nightmare to play against

speaking objectively, how does Orlando offer the best chance for playoff? The 3 key players that took us to playoffs were all traded away. and then he has to rely on a PG that cant shoot from the outside and a PF that cant stay healthy.

I think if we played everyone and added the TPE salary, we'd be able to win as much as the old group. Harris, Porter, WCJ aren't much worse than the 3 we traded.

Plus we got Hampton and likely a top 10 pick. We also have a 15m TPE.

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tiderulz · Post #50 » by **tiderulz** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:08 pm

basketballRob wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
cedric76 wrote:If we land a top 3 pick, could we see Cade refuse to work out with other teams to force his way to Otown?
Why would he want to play for Detroit, min or houston, we offer him the best chance to play the playoff next season

i really hope we get cade

so many sexy lineup

Fultz-harris-cade-JI-WCJ
cade-harris-chuma-JI-WCJ
Fultz-harris-cade-chuma-JI

our guys r so versatile and 2 way players that we could be a nightmare to play against

speaking objectively, how does Orlando offer the best chance for playoff? The 3 key players that took us to playoffs were all traded away. and then he has to rely on a PG that cant shoot from the outside and a PF that cant stay healthy.
I think if we played everyone and added the TPE salary, we'd be able to win as much as the old group. Harris, Porter, WCJ aren't much worse than the 3 we traded.

Plus we got Hampton and likely a top 10 pick. We also have a 15m TPE.

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well, again objectively, Otto still cant stay healthy, and may not even re-sign with us. WCJ isnt bad, but not on Vuc's level yet. Harris still isnt there yet and may not recover, especially offensively. And Harris is years away from anything.

basketballRob · Post #51 » by **basketballRob** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:21 pm

tiderulz wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
tiderulz wrote:speaking objectively, how does Orlando offer the best chance for playoff? The 3 key players that took us to playoffs were all traded away. and then he has to rely on a PG that cant shoot from the outside and a PF that cant stay healthy.
I think if we played everyone and added the TPE salary, we'd be able to win as much as the old group. Harris, Porter, WCJ aren't much worse than the 3 we traded.

Plus we got Hampton and likely a top 10 pick. We also have a 15m TPE.

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well, again objectively, Otto still cant stay healthy, and may not even re-sign with us. WCJ isnt bad, but not on Vuc's level yet. Harris still isnt there yet and may not recover, especially offensively. And Harris is years away from anything.

If Otto doesn't sign we could add a different mid level player. We do have his Birds rights.

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cedric76 · Post #52 » by **cedric76** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:36 pm

JBSouthpaw wrote:
cedric76 wrote:If we land a top 3 pick, could we see Cade refuse to work out with other teams to force his way to Otown?
Why would he want to play for Detroit, min or houston, we offer him the best chance to play the playoff next season

i really hope we get cade

so many sexy lineup

Fultz-harris-cade-JI-WCJ
cade-harris-chuma-JI-WCJ
Fultz-harris-cade-chuma-JI

our guys r so versatile and 2 way players that we could be a nightmare to play against

0% chance this happens.
1st, every player wants to go #1 overall.
2nd, there is about 2M per season difference in salary from 1st to 3rd

3rd nonsense, players make the money with their 2nd and 3rd contract, by picking the right place get you more money in the long run. Agents and players know that very well

KillMonger · Post #53 » by **KillMonger** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:44 pm

Cade is going to be a nightmare in the pick and roll....whoever lands him will have so many ways to use him and play off him.....even clifford couldn't mess that up, it's like a cheat code

JBSouthpaw · Post #54 » by **JBSouthpaw** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:57 pm

cedric76 wrote:
JBSouthpaw wrote:
cedric76 wrote:If we land a top 3 pick, could we see Cade refuse to work out with other teams to force his way to Otown?
Why would he want to play for Detroit, min or houston, we offer him the best chance to play the playoff next season

i really hope we get cade

so many sexy lineup

Fultz-harris-cade-JI-WCJ
cade-harris-chuma-JI-WCJ
Fultz-harris-cade-chuma-JI

our guys r so versatile and 2 way players that we could be a nightmare to play against

0% chance this happens.
1st, every player wants to go #1 overall.
2nd, there is about 2M per season difference in salary from 1st to 3rd

3rd nonsense, players make the money with their 2nd and 3rd contract, by picking the right place get you more money in the long run. Agents and players know that very well

Your right & wrong, but it is based on what you make. The player draft #1 overall, his max 2nd contract is going to be better than the person drafted 3rd.

ucfmay2000 · Post #55 » by **ucfmay2000** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:38 pm

basketballRob wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
cedric76 wrote:If we land a top 3 pick, could we see Cade refuse to work out with other teams to force his way to Otown?
Why would he want to play for Detroit, min or houston, we offer him the best chance to play the playoff next season

i really hope we get cade

so many sexy lineup

Fultz-harris-cade-JI-WCJ
cade-harris-chuma-JI-WCJ
Fultz-harris-cade-chuma-JI

our guys r so versatile and 2 way players that we could be a nightmare to play against

speaking objectively, how does Orlando offer the best chance for playoff? The 3 key players that took us to playoffs were all traded away. and then he has to rely on a PG that cant shoot from the outside and a PF that cant stay healthy.
I think if we played everyone and added the TPE salary, we'd be able to win as much as the old group. Harris, Porter, WCJ aren't much worse than the 3 we traded.

Plus we got Hampton and likely a top 10 pick. We also have a 15m TPE.

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Haha... not sure how long have you been watching Magic. Harris, Porter, WCJ are not the same level of Evan, AG and Vuc... that was the reason other teams had to give up some young unproven players.

tiderulz · Post #56 » by **tiderulz** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:49 pm

ucfmay2000 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
tiderulz wrote:speaking objectively, how does Orlando offer the best chance for playoff? The 3 key players that took us to playoffs were all traded away. and then he has to rely on a PG that cant shoot from the outside and a PF that cant stay healthy.
I think if we played everyone and added the TPE salary, we'd be able to win as much as the old group. Harris, Porter, WCJ aren't much worse than the 3 we traded.

Plus we got Hampton and likely a top 10 pick. We also have a 15m TPE.

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Haha... not sure how long have you been watching Magic. Harris, Porter, WCJ are not the same level of Evan, AG and Vuc... that was the reason other teams had to give up some young unproven players.

a healthy Harris, returning to form, is better than Evan as he also plays really good defense. that healthy and return to form is the question. similar with Otto, a healthy Otto impacts the game just as much as Evan, with his length and shooting, but dude just cannot stay healthy. WCJ looks decent, but not the offensive player that Vuc is. That said, he plays better defense and he could close the gap

MoMM · Post #57 » by **MoMM** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:11 pm

RookieStar wrote:
MoMM wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
Which one do you have a question with? I mean I read that when they interviewed Dwight, they used that cleaning the room/making the bed thing to prove that Dwight was mature enough and convinced them to draft him over Emeka.

If you are talking about Wiggins... cmon even Wiggins rookie year there were games when he was the next coming of Tmac. Sure the next 2-3 games he might stunk it up but he will show flashes again after that. lol

D12.

Seriously? You havent read that article or new piece? I think I read it before from the orlando sentinel. not reallt sure. any other old timers remember that?

Never heard about this and I am a fan for a long long time. Almost 20 years only in this Forum (man, I feel so old writing this haha).

RookieStar · Post #58 » by **RookieStar** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:35 pm

JBSouthpaw wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
JBSouthpaw wrote:
0% chance this happens.
1st, every player wants to go #1 overall.
2nd, there is about 2M per season difference in salary from 1st to 3rd

3rd nonsense, players make the money with their 2nd and 3rd contract, by picking the right place get you more money in the long run. Agents and players know that very well

Your right & wrong, but it is based on what you make. The player draft #1 overall, his max 2nd contract is going to be better than the person drafted 3rd.

Agree.. but also remember than saying " a bird in the hand " or " a dollar today"

I can't speak for everyone but the point is players must think that I prefer to get ( example only ) get the 15m in 4 year contract when I enter the league rather than the 10m/4yr contract NOW. I mean sure in the 5th year I might be eligible for a 20/yr but 5 years is so far away. Career-injuries, CBA talks, lower CAP and etc is uncertain.

RookieStar · Post #59 » by **RookieStar** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:07 am

Wow.. Terence Clark from UK just died...and BJ Boston might get traume from witnessing his friend die...

F$&$&$ it and to.think only a few months before a lifechanging event for them ( nba draft)

Blue_and_Whte · Post #60 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:32 am

Suggs and Green are my guys.