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Lauri Markkanen Discussion Thread: PT 2

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Re: Lauri Markkanen Discussion Thread: PT 2 

Post#181 » by Pentele » Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:49 am

CobyWhite0 wrote:
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Louri wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Even worse than AK snubbing him is the fact that the Bulls PR team seemingly intentionally brought attention to it. He's as good as gone, if it wasn't obvious before.

Regardless of the FO's feelings toward him as a future piece, that's pretty damn classless to do that, and even more classless to post it to social media in such an obvious fashion. I thought we're trying to create a more inviting, player friendly culture? Free agents will see that.

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:rofl:

Y'all are joking, right? Vuc didn't get an AK fist bump either, how come nobody is offended by that?


Regardless of who gets an fist bump and who not, I would not interpret anything based on that encounter.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Discussion Thread: PT 2 

Post#182 » by Robin Jones » Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:24 pm

CobyWhite0 wrote:
GoBlue72391 wrote:
Louri wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=21
Even worse than AK snubbing him is the fact that the Bulls PR team seemingly intentionally brought attention to it. He's as good as gone, if it wasn't obvious before.

Regardless of the FO's feelings toward him as a future piece, that's pretty damn classless to do that, and even more classless to post it to social media in such an obvious fashion. I thought we're trying to create a more inviting, player friendly culture? Free agents will see that.

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:rofl:

Y'all are joking, right? Vuc didn't get an AK fist bump either, how come nobody is offended by that?


For me it looks like that Vuc got more than a fist pump. AK started to walk with Vuc and started a discussion with him, which probably was the reason he ignored Lauri. So AK was focusing on Vuc, but not ignoring Lauri intentionally, rather doing that at the unconscious level and reacting as things happened. This shows that Lauri is definitely not in AKs future plans, but it does not necessary show a classless action or an intentional snub.

But what GoBlue wrote is the key point here. The Bulls PR department decided to edit the video like this and post it, even after having time to reflect and look at how all this looks like. This feels a bit classless.

If you look at the comments in the tweet, you can see that about half of them focus on the AKs snub (unintentional or not) of Lauri. So this is not something that just a few Lauri fans here in the forum saw.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Discussion Thread: PT 2 

Post#183 » by Louri » Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:05 pm

At least Lauri will look good in a black shirt next season.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Discussion Thread: PT 2 

Post#184 » by DuckIII » Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:37 pm

You guys have lost your damn minds.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Discussion Thread: PT 2 

Post#185 » by Ice Man » Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:56 pm

On another board, somebody suggested that Billy should vary Lauri's minutes depending upon how his shot is falling. That is what a good coach would do. Hmmm. Yesterday Lauri started 2-3, then went 2-8 after that. The day before he started 0-1, for the entire first half, and then went 5-6 in the second half.

Such tactics can never be done successfully, not for Lauri, not for anybody.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Discussion Thread: PT 2 

Post#186 » by madvillian » Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:15 pm

Ice Man wrote:On another board, somebody suggested that Billy should vary Lauri's minutes depending upon how his shot is falling. That is what a good coach would do. Hmmm. Yesterday Lauri started 2-3, then went 2-8 after that. The day before he started 0-1, for the entire first half, and then went 5-6 in the second half.

Such tactics can never be done successfully, not for Lauri, not for anybody.


Your post and Ducks are a nice bookend. There really isn't much more to say.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Discussion Thread: PT 2 

Post#187 » by BullChit » Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:16 pm

I still have to wonder what we can get in a sign and trade for Lauri fans with the forum for whatever team Lauri goes to next season.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Discussion Thread: PT 2 

Post#188 » by sco » Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:38 pm

BullChit wrote:I still have to wonder what we can get in a sign and trade for Lauri fans with the forum for whatever team Lauri goes to next season.

All we'll get is a PTE and a conditional 2nd, if that. Best case is some other team's middling contract that they don't want.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Discussion Thread: PT 2 

Post#189 » by mack2354 » Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:51 pm

How about a shift from fist bumps to basketball? I've seen lineups now of Lauri-Theis-Vuc and Lauri-Thad-Vuc. Defensive has been pretty good lately and I haven't seen him being treating like a turnstile. It also doesn't seem to be a problem with the offense since we have been running plays through Vuc and Thad. Can Lauri at the 3 continue to work long term?
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Discussion Thread: PT 2 

Post#190 » by Pentele » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:54 pm

mack2354 wrote:How about a shift from fist bumps to basketball? I've seen lineups now of Lauri-Theis-Vuc and Lauri-Thad-Vuc. Defensive has been pretty good lately and I haven't seen him being treating like a turnstile. It also doesn't seem to be a problem with the offense since we have been running plays through Vuc and Thad. Can Lauri at the 3 continue to work long term?


I am skeptical of using Lauri at the 3 long term. I see it more as a situational tinkering that may pay dividends in certain matchups.

The more important thing is that Lauri certainly has not been a turnstile, far from it. I do not think he is ever going to be a really impactful defensive player in the sense that he would be making great defensive plays that turn the game around. But it seems that he is capable of being a good defender in a team that is capable of bringing at least some defensive intensity to the game, as we have witnessed happening in some of the recent games. That is enough, and it bodes well in terms of his career projection.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Discussion Thread: PT 2 

Post#191 » by LateNight » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:23 pm

DuckIII wrote:You guys have lost your damn minds.


If you watch AK's press conferences he's clearly blinking out a message in morse code
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Discussion Thread: PT 2 

Post#192 » by FriedRise » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:24 pm

DuckIII wrote:You guys have lost your damn minds.


He's been playing better now so they've switched to analyzing fist bumps!! :lol:
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Discussion Thread: PT 2 

Post#193 » by FranchisePlayer » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:20 pm

Neonblazer wrote:
Louri wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=21

So I guess Lauri said "no" to all of those S&T suggestions.


Woah, that was classless! :crazy:
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Discussion Thread: PT 2 

Post#194 » by FranchisePlayer » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:26 pm

Robin Jones wrote:
CobyWhite0 wrote:
GoBlue72391 wrote:Even worse than AK snubbing him is the fact that the Bulls PR team seemingly intentionally brought attention to it. He's as good as gone, if it wasn't obvious before.

Regardless of the FO's feelings toward him as a future piece, that's pretty damn classless to do that, and even more classless to post it to social media in such an obvious fashion. I thought we're trying to create a more inviting, player friendly culture? Free agents will see that.

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:rofl:

Y'all are joking, right? Vuc didn't get an AK fist bump either, how come nobody is offended by that?


For me it looks like that Vuc got more than a fist pump. AK started to walk with Vuc and started a discussion with him, which probably was the reason he ignored Lauri. So AK was focusing on Vuc, but not ignoring Lauri intentionally, rather doing that at the unconscious level and reacting as things happened. This shows that Lauri is definitely not in AKs future plans, but it does not necessary show a classless action or an intentional snub.

But what GoBlue wrote is the key point here. The Bulls PR department decided to edit the video like this and post it, even after having time to reflect and look at how all this looks like. This feels a bit classless.

If you look at the comments in the tweet, you can see that about half of them focus on the AKs snub (unintentional or not) of Lauri. So this is not something that just a few Lauri fans here in the forum saw.


Very well said! The Bulls PR department needs to get a clue since they obviously stink in social selling.
MrSparkle wrote:I don't see a scenario here or there where Lauri becomes the "7-pick we thought he could be." If you remove his 3P ability, he's worse than Felicio by a mile.

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Re: Lauri Markkanen Discussion Thread: PT 2 

Post#195 » by MrSparkle » Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:16 pm

Ice Man wrote:On another board, somebody suggested that Billy should vary Lauri's minutes depending upon how his shot is falling. That is what a good coach would do. Hmmm. Yesterday Lauri started 2-3, then went 2-8 after that. The day before he started 0-1, for the entire first half, and then went 5-6 in the second half.

Such tactics can never be done successfully, not for Lauri, not for anybody.


Yep. The more you shoot, the more comfortable you are shooting. Shooting does not have straight-line odds, just a large-sample average. Ray Allen could go 1/15 one game and still end the season #1 in 3P shooting.

The real deal with Lauri, is he needs to plug into a team where he can fit their defensive concept without dumping his energy on intense schemes. If that happens, then he's a reliable starter without the defensive headaches. Wasn't happening with Coby/Zach/Wendell, and it sure as hell isn't happening with Vucevic. Like Korver, McDermott and JJ, these guys are really no benefit to you if you're playing them 20 mpg. Their best seasons were full-time starting roles, with good 4-man defensive combinations. You need them on the floor for 30+ minutes to let them catch their hot streaks. They're not going to be all-stars (well I guess Korver snuck 1 appearance in), but they'll open up the floor.

Same thing with Coby. His 1-dimensionality poses problems. But he's clearly not suited for that irrational confidence microwave role.

Some guys like JR, Crawford and Lou were more automatic with that 20 mpg bench shooting role. But fans also appreciated their late-career versions much more than younger years. If I recall, Jamal, JR and Lou were passed around a dozen teams, if even untradeable after their big contracts. It's obviously easier for 32yo vets to play short minutes off the bench with no nerves.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Discussion Thread: PT 2 

Post#196 » by Louri » Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:28 pm

Louri wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=21


Plot thickens: "Arturas gives everyone knucks and then his Euros double knucks and a hug and walks with them."
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Discussion Thread: PT 2 

Post#197 » by Wingy » Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:31 pm

FranchisePlayer wrote:
Neonblazer wrote:
Louri wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=21

So I guess Lauri said "no" to all of those S&T suggestions.


Woah, that was classless! :crazy:


This thread has become even more awesomer!!!

I mean, the video stops. AK probably finishes his talk w/Vuc, then finds Lauri for the dab after...or while they're further in the tunnel while chatting w/Vuc...he multi-tasks.

Like Duck said...Lauri isn't good enough, nor bad enough to warrant all this attention. It's great. I'm having fun being a part of it.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Discussion Thread: PT 2 

Post#198 » by MrSparkle » Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:38 pm

One of the more interesting storylines in the Lauri saga is how Mr.Sparkle-brand hyperboles have made it to many of Lauri's family members' RealGM signatures... :reporter:

I've spent a good half of the time defending him!
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Discussion Thread: PT 2 

Post#199 » by ZOMG » Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:40 pm

As everyone is probably waiting for me to chime in on "Bumpgate"... sorry, gonna sit this one out. :wink:
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Discussion Thread: PT 2 

Post#200 » by FranchisePlayer » Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:43 pm

Wingy wrote:
FranchisePlayer wrote:
Neonblazer wrote:So I guess Lauri said "no" to all of those S&T suggestions.


Woah, that was classless! :crazy:


This thread has become even more awesomer!!!

I mean, the video stops. AK probably finishes his talk w/Vuc, then finds Lauri for the dab after...or while they're further in the tunnel while chatting w/Vuc...he multi-tasks.

Like Duck said...Lauri isn't good enough, nor bad enough to warrant all this attention. It's great. I'm having fun being a part of it.


I'll have to say; I've been pondering too what is it in him that causes people to post so much about him? No other Bulls player comes even close. Already two locked threads for this season, for a length of idk 150 pages, and posts just keep on piling up in this one too. And quite frankly, it's not his supporters who keep this poignant juxtaposition alive.
MrSparkle wrote:I don't see a scenario here or there where Lauri becomes the "7-pick we thought he could be." If you remove his 3P ability, he's worse than Felicio by a mile.

12/2/2022
I like the quote- it makes me chuckle. And it was/is pretty much true.

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