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Game 60 : Cleveland Cavaliers (21-38) @ Washington Wizards (26-33) - 7:00PM

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Game 60 : Cleveland Cavaliers (21-38) @ Washington Wizards (26-33) - 7:00PM 

Post#1 » by ducler » Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:00 pm

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Re: Game 60 : Cleveland Cavaliers (21-38) @ Washington Wizards (26-33) - 7:00PM 

Post#2 » by JonFromVA » Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:19 pm

Collin is out for this game, apparently he started showing signs of a concussion at some point after the last game ... or <insert conspiracy theory here>.
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Re: Game 60 : Cleveland Cavaliers (21-38) @ Washington Wizards (26-33) - 7:00PM 

Post#3 » by Stillwater » Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:41 pm

JonFromVA wrote:Collin is out for this game, apparently he started showing signs of a concussion at some point after the last game ... or <insert conspiracy theory here>.

The last part is directed at me probably right? I guess you are one of those people that just believes everything they are told by their employer too right lol
Of course he has a concussion because they say so...the reality is he would not sit out if he didnt
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Re: Game 60 : Cleveland Cavaliers (21-38) @ Washington Wizards (26-33) - 7:00PM 

Post#4 » by tundraknight » Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:17 pm

Only 12 games left after tonight..

Let’s just get this garbage season over with and pray for lottery luck.

And have a fresh start next season.
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Re: Game 60 : Cleveland Cavaliers (21-38) @ Washington Wizards (26-33) - 7:00PM 

Post#5 » by jbk1234 » Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:06 am

Did Okoro get tossed.

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Re: Game 60 : Cleveland Cavaliers (21-38) @ Washington Wizards (26-33) - 7:00PM 

Post#6 » by jbk1234 » Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:57 am

I'll say this, the rookie label is off Okoro with NBA crews and he's giving opposing players fits.

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Re: Game 60 : Cleveland Cavaliers (21-38) @ Washington Wizards (26-33) - 7:00PM 

Post#7 » by jbk1234 » Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:58 am

Bickerstaff has figured out that taking the challenge is just as important as winning it.

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Re: Game 60 : Cleveland Cavaliers (21-38) @ Washington Wizards (26-33) - 7:00PM 

Post#8 » by jbk1234 » Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:05 am

Not to go all Stillwater, but are people watching how the last 4 minutes have been officiated?

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Post#9 » by Stillwater » Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:44 pm

Lol like the officiating had anything to do with DG choking ar the end of the game. Allen and Okoro played a role in it too down the stretch.
He has become a really effective guard compared to his rookie season but he obviously still cant finish through contact enough to draw fouls in those moments and cannot be a gamer as is.
I want to believe in him but his ceiling is capped too low to start on a contender regardless of who is in the court with him.
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Post#10 » by JonFromVA » Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:44 pm

It's the little things ... the Cavs coming close to winning this game missing a 25ppg scorer and still breaking 100, Jarrett Allen looking like himself, Cedi showing up, Garland continuing to string together a series of impressive games even if he failed to close it.

Garland got up 8 3pters in this game, which is close to what the Cavs want from him; but I thought he still played mostly his usual game looking to get teammates involved, not forcing many shots, and not dominating the ball.

If Kevin is starting to find range on his 3pters again, we need to start running more plays to get him shots. Spamming the high pick & roll was effective, but we need to work harder to get our best shooters open looks (which includes Garland).

All part of that transition from combo to point guard.
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Re: Game 60 : Cleveland Cavaliers (21-38) @ Washington Wizards (26-33) - 7:00PM 

Post#11 » by JonFromVA » Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:45 pm

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JonFromVA wrote:Collin is out for this game, apparently he started showing signs of a concussion at some point after the last game ... or <insert conspiracy theory here>.

The last part is directed at me probably right? I guess you are one of those people that just believes everything they are told by their employer too right lol
Of course he has a concussion because they say so...the reality is he would not sit out if he didnt


Nah, you're not the only person who loves a good tanking related conspiracy theory.
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Re: Game 60 : Cleveland Cavaliers (21-38) @ Washington Wizards (26-33) - 7:00PM 

Post#12 » by jbk1234 » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:19 pm

Stillwater wrote:Lol like the officiating had anything to do with DG choking ar the end of the game. Allen and Okoro played a role in it too down the stretch.
He has become a really effective guard compared to his rookie season but he obviously still cant finish through contact enough to draw fouls in those moments and cannot be a gamer as is.
I want to believe in him but his ceiling is capped too low to start on a contender regardless of who is in the court with him.



10:08 team logo +2 Darius Garland makes two point driving layup (Isaiah Hartenstein assists) 97-90
9:46 team logo Ish Smith misses three point jump shot
9:43 team logo Wizards offensive rebound
9:43 team logo Isaac Okoro personal foul (Loose ball) (Russell Westbrook draws the foul)
9:36 team logo Russell Westbrook misses two point jump shot
9:33 team logo Larry Nance Jr. defensive rebound
9:26 team logo Cedi Osman turnover (bad pass) (Garrison Mathews steals)
9:21 team logo +3 Garrison Mathews makes three point jump shot (Russell Westbrook assists) 97-93
9:01 team logo Matthew Dellavedova misses two point floating jump shot
8:59 team logo Robin Lopez defensive rebound
8:47 team logo Davis Bertans misses three point jump shot
8:45 team logo Cavaliers defensive rebound
8:45 team logo Russell Westbrook personal foul (Loose ball) (Cedi Osman draws the foul)
8:25 team logo Cedi Osman misses two point floating jump shot
8:22 team logo Robin Lopez defensive rebound
8:14 team logo Isaiah Hartenstein shooting foul (Robin Lopez draws the foul)
8:14 team logo +1 Robin Lopez makes regular free throw 1 of 2 97-94
8:14 team logo +1 Robin Lopez makes regular free throw 2 of 2 97-95
8:01 team logo Larry Nance Jr. misses three point jump shot
7:57 team logo Bradley Beal defensive rebound
7:58 team logo Isaiah Hartenstein personal foul (Bradley Beal draws the foul)
7:48 team logo Bradley Beal misses two point driving layup
7:46 team logo Wizards offensive rebound
7:46 team logo Isaac Okoro personal foul (Loose ball) (Robin Lopez draws the foul)
7:46 team logo +1 Robin Lopez makes regular free throw 1 of 2 97-96
7:46 team logo +1 Robin Lopez makes regular free throw 2 of 2 97-97
7:34 team logo Bradley Beal shooting foul (Darius Garland draws the foul)
7:34 team logo +1 Darius Garland makes regular free throw 1 of 2 98-97
7:34 team logo +1 Darius Garland makes regular free throw 2 of 2 99-97
7:19 team logo Davis Bertans misses three point jump shot
7:17 team logo Cedi Osman defensive rebound
7:02 team logo Matthew Dellavedova misses three point jump shot
6:59 team logo Garrison Mathews defensive rebound
6:56 team logo Russell Westbrook turnover (traveling)
6:41 team logo +2 Jarrett Allen makes two point floating jump shot (Darius Garland assists) 101-97
6:33 team logo Matthew Dellavedova personal foul (Russell Westbrook draws the foul)
6:33 team logo +1 Russell Westbrook makes regular free throw 1 of 2 101-98
6:33 team logo Russell Westbrook misses regular free throw 2 of 2

From the play by play. The Cavs were up by seven points and were whistled for six defensive fouls in three and half minutes? If wasn't every possession it was six out of seven or eight. When it was over, it was a one point game. Also, Hartenstein was ejected, for as far as I can tell, bumping heads with Bradley Beal when they both dove for a lose ball.
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Re: Game 60 : Cleveland Cavaliers (21-38) @ Washington Wizards (26-33) - 7:00PM 

Post#13 » by JonFromVA » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:50 pm

I don't think Hartenstein was ejected, but if you've been wanting to see a Cavalier throwing his weight around, IH was that guy in this game nearly taking out Beal and Russ.
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Post#14 » by jbk1234 » Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:25 pm

JonFromVA wrote:I don't think Hartenstein was ejected, but if you've been wanting to see a Cavalier throwing his weight around, IH was that guy in this game nearly taking out Beal and Russ.


He was taken to the locker room and while being physically restrained by the staff at the time.
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Re: Game 60 : Cleveland Cavaliers (21-38) @ Washington Wizards (26-33) - 7:00PM 

Post#15 » by JonFromVA » Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:19 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:I don't think Hartenstein was ejected, but if you've been wanting to see a Cavalier throwing his weight around, IH was that guy in this game nearly taking out Beal and Russ.


He was taken to the locker room and while being physically restrained by the staff at the time.


Interesting. I didn't catch that (I was watching the Wizards feed and tend to FF'd timeouts and reviews), but pay attention when they eventually decide the outcome ... and didn't hear any flagrant calls or ejections, and see no mention on the web.

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