Pentele wrote:WindyCityBorn wrote:CobyWhite0 wrote:
First of all, we're now 4-4 without LaVine.
Zach: 22-31 with, 4-4 without
Lauri: 15-26 with, 11-9 without. 8-17 when Lauri starts, 7-9 when he comes off the bench.
Coby: 25-33 with, 1-2 without. 20-23 when Coby starts, 5-10 when he comes off the bench.
So Coby has the best record of the 3 as a starter, and we also have a worse record when Coby doesn't play than we have when Zach or Lauri doesn't play.
My point is we can’t draw any real conclusion from this small sample size post trade deadline. Although people definitely try to do so.
The truth is one cannot draw any real conclusions regarding an individual player even based on all the games of the season. But people definitely try do so, I see, as they have tried all season based on even a smaller sample. In that regard, the win/lose record is even worse than on off stat, there are simply too many variables, especially since the win/lose record does not do anything to track the performance of a single player. It would be intellectually honest just to admit that and not keep up the simplistic charade.
Of course one can, if it's blatant.
Like the Lakers are 28-13 when LeBron plays, 8-12 when he doesn't.
And I'm not at all saying that on/off or win/loss are of much use, but even the simplest of box score stats have many variables.
A guy playing Center next to Dennis Rodman is going to have less opportunities to grab rebounds. A Center playing with Steph and Klay is going to get less shots, and obviously less points.
Someone like Lauri, who is dependent on his teammates getting him shots, is going to score more points on higher efficiency with CP3 at PG instead of Coby.
A PG is going to have less assists playing with a bunch of bricklayers than a PG playing with a bunch of offensively talented teammates.
Steals and blocked shots can be greatly affected by the other four defenders and his coach's defensive schemes.