Stillwater wrote:JonFromVA wrote:Stillwater wrote:The likes of Green Kuminga and also Isaiah Todd and Nix were all 5 star prospects that have been highly recruited.There is really no question every one of them is high upside by NBA standards. ust how long a franchise wants to wait is another story
Of course, not every player is ready to drop 20ppg with efficiency as an 18yr old playing against bigger/stronger players, but those who do are typically going to include the basketball prodigies who are expected to be far ahead of their peers at any level.
The players going straight to the G-League is something new, but I would expect a high-level 18 year old to do very well against that level of competition *if* they're physically far enough along and their skills/abilities are highly advanced.
There are also ton of reasons why a GM/organization would prefer to draft a 19 year old that's not going to take a few years just to show they belong in the league. The Cavs are at a point in their rebuild where they would benefit from drafting a more NBA ready prospect themselves, so, this may be a factor even if they fall somewhere in the draft where they might have the opportunity to take a raw prospect like Kuminga.
I completely disagree that they should be fast forwarding anything . but you are probably right that is their mindset.
Kuminga is not "raw" at all though unless you want a knock down outside shooter that will average 30 a night or close to it like Sexton who wasnt a good shooter either pre draft.But I guess his outside shot struggles dont have anything to do with injuries...Kuminga has been nursing a wrist injury all season too. I really think it is funny how bad of a rep a prospect like Kuminga gets when they have excellent shooting tape mixed with tape of them chucking bad shots. This is a PF we are talking about and one that has elite Wiggins level athleticism along with Miles Bridges possibly Zion level explosiveness. He has shown a decent first step and a dribble drive that is advanced for a forward that allows him to initiate offensive sets or just attack the paint with multiple effective and basically unstoppable moves in iso.
He has the highest upside if you value physicality over shooting.
Again, I haven even started wasting my time watching these guys, but I can't help but wonder why a player with a wrist injury that's shooting 24% from 3pt is attempting 5 per game? If he has the level of athleticism, explosiveness, first step, and drive ability you suggest why is he shooting 38%? He should be yamming on everyone. Something is not translating, and it's not exactly all that hard to translate to the Gleague.
Upside and ceiling are great but if they aren't realized or only happens after the player is no longer with your team ... the cost is very high. If you want Kuminga, you should probably be hoping we (and he) fall far enough back in the lottery where those risks can be ignored.