Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go

[Setshot33]

1986: Len Bias, if he lived, would have been a bust (6'8 PF who put up inefficient numbers in college).
You can blame Red Auerbach's crap drafting for the Celtics wasting the Larry Bird-window.

Larry Bird worked out with Len Bias pre-draft and commented: Finally, a guy who could give me a break!

In ACC country, many folks(and alot to this day) believed Bias would've been better than Jordan.

You kids and your penchant to rewrite history. What an imagination you got there.......

[djFan71]

I feel like a lot more people than expected missed the sarcasm of BK_2020's original post.

[Ernest]

I'm genuinely surprised some of you guys know how to operate a computer or phone to post these messages.

[LoquaciousLarry]

I'm genuinely surprised some of you guys know how to operate a computer or phone to post these messages.

Your surprise wouldn't be genuine unless you're as dumb as you're insinuating others to be

[djFan71]

I'm genuinely surprised some of you guys know how to operate a computer or phone to post these messages.

Your surprise wouldn't be genuine unless you're as dumb as you're insinuating others to be

Let's play nice fellas.

[BostonCouchGM]

I feel like there is a high chance that Bias could have just turned out like Jabari Parker. Wasn't he regarded as a poor defender with zero playmaking skills? The first Obi Toppin.

yikes. No. He was dynamic on both ends. He was just slightly behind Jordan as an NBA prospect. Like Jordan he had springs for feet and it allowed him to rise over everyone on jumpshots. He would have been incredible in transition with our passers.

[Ernest]

Well this thread reached it's logical conclusion. Bashing a guy who died 30+ years ago. Well done guys. I came for the Ainge hate but I stayed for the Red hate and Len hate. Log on the FanDuel for tonights bet: How long before this place turns on Tommy? the over under is a month.

[Fencer reregistered]

Well this thread reached it's logical conclusion. Bashing a guy who died 30+ years ago. Well done guys. I came for the Ainge hate but I stayed for the Red hate and Len hate. Log on the FanDuel for tonights bet: How long before this place turns on Tommy? the over under is a month.

I don't recall any Red hate in the thread; quite the contrary, and I'm the guy who first mentioned him.

What did I miss?

[Ernest]

Well this thread reached it's logical conclusion. Bashing a guy who died 30+ years ago. Well done guys. I came for the Ainge hate but I stayed for the Red hate and Len hate. Log on the FanDuel for tonights bet: How long before this place turns on Tommy? the over under is a month.

I don't recall any Red hate in the thread; quite the contrary, and I'm the guy who first mentioned him.

What did I miss?

Oh who knows.

[Bleeding Green]

I feel like there is a high chance that Bias could have just turned out like Jabari Parker. Wasn't he regarded as a poor defender with zero playmaking skills? The first Obi Toppin.

yikes. No. He was dynamic on both ends. He was just slightly behind Jordan as an NBA prospect. Like Jordan he had springs for feet and it allowed him to rise over everyone on jumpshots. He would have been incredible in transition with our passers.

He had a weak handle and 1 assist a game as a senior. Bad rebounding numbers. Poor steal/block rates. Maryland had a sub-.500 record in the ACC with him as their best player. Stat analysis of his college numbers suggests a pretty middling NBA career and certainly well behind Jordan in every key stat indicator every year of his college career at the very least. I guess we'll never know, though. Yikes. Definitely he would have benefited greatly playing for the Celtics on a team of great passers and maybe he'd develop that part of his game, but I don't think it was a given at all.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/indexf7b7.html?p=4011

[LoquaciousLarry]

MVP of the ACC tournament as a sophomore, 2nd in the ACC that year.

He wasn't a playmaking guard like Jordan he was more of a post/mid post threat with a killer turn around jumper with elite elevation that allowed him to get his shot off against anybody, even bigger defenders. When big guys would be on him he could face up and use his quickness. Against smaller players he would use his mismatch of size and strength down on the block. He wasn't asked or expected to handle the ball, he'd give it up off of a rebound and go fill the lane.

Len would have been an amazing fit with the Celtics. Phenomenal finisher to go with the Celtics contagious ball movement.

[JediMasterRevan]

Fire Danny

Romeo - 1 dimensional player at best, terrible pick
Nesmith - jury out but looks BAAAAAAAAD, especially with the guys taken after him looking good
Edwards - seriously?
Grant Williams - Undersized, unathletic, short armed, excels at nothing
Break up TPE to get Fournier (I know he has missed a lot of games, but when has Brad ever been able to incorporate a player with a set of skills that does not fit his system) If Evan doesn't resign just broke up the best opportunity to add a legit player in the offseason.
Traded away pick 30 for nothing, turned out to be a better player than pick 14 (which is what should have been traded), who most people agreed would happen.

Drug his feet on the hayward sign and trade and lost out on having contracts/players that he could have traded at deadline if wanted

Signed Teague just to pay to drop him a few months later.


Then fire the medical staff

[cloverleaf]

Fire Danny

Romeo - 1 dimensional player at best, terrible pick
Nesmith - jury out but looks BAAAAAAAAD, especially with the guys taken after him looking good
Edwards - seriously?
Grant Williams - Undersized, unathletic, short armed, excels at nothing
Break up TPE to get Fournier (I know he has missed a lot of games, but when has Brad ever been able to incorporate a player with a set of skills that does not fit his system) If Evan doesn't resign just broke up the best opportunity to add a legit player in the offseason.
Traded away pick 30 for nothing, turned out to be a better player than pick 14 (which is what should have been traded), who most people agreed would happen.

Drug his feet on the hayward sign and trade and lost out on having contracts/players that he could have traded at deadline if wanted

Signed Teague just to pay to drop him a few months later.


Then fire the medical staff

I think Nesmith has potential, though at the draft they sold him to us as being able to contribute as a shooter immediately.

Otherwise, it is hard to really argue.

[BK_2020]

Seriously though, it's pretty terrible team construction to force Larry Bird to play out of position so you can start Robert Parish. You can thank Red Auerbach for Larry Bird having only 3 rings.

[JediMasterRevan]

Seriously though, it's pretty terrible team construction to force Larry Bird to play out of position so you can start Robert Parish. You can thank Red Auerbach for Larry Bird having only 3 rings.

This post makes no sense.

[scottyno]

Fire Danny

Romeo - 1 dimensional player at best, terrible pick
Nesmith - jury out but looks BAAAAAAAAD, especially with the guys taken after him looking good
Edwards - seriously?
Grant Williams - Undersized, unathletic, short armed, excels at nothing
Break up TPE to get Fournier (I know he has missed a lot of games, but when has Brad ever been able to incorporate a player with a set of skills that does not fit his system) If Evan doesn't resign just broke up the best opportunity to add a legit player in the offseason.
Traded away pick 30 for nothing, turned out to be a better player than pick 14 (which is what should have been traded), who most people agreed would happen.

Drug his feet on the hayward sign and trade and lost out on having contracts/players that he could have traded at deadline if wanted

Signed Teague just to pay to drop him a few months later.


Then fire the medical staff

Fire him because he MAY (too early to say by far) have missed on 2 mid 1sts a late 1st and a 2nd and because the guy he traded almost nothing to get who filled a perfect need on the team got covid? Oh and because he signed a backup point guard for the minimum who didn't work out.

Pretty sure you could make a similar post for every gm in the league, fire them all.

[Bleeding Green]

Fire Danny

Romeo - 1 dimensional player at best, terrible pick
Nesmith - jury out but looks BAAAAAAAAD, especially with the guys taken after him looking good
Edwards - seriously?
Grant Williams - Undersized, unathletic, short armed, excels at nothing
Break up TPE to get Fournier (I know he has missed a lot of games, but when has Brad ever been able to incorporate a player with a set of skills that does not fit his system) If Evan doesn't resign just broke up the best opportunity to add a legit player in the offseason.
Traded away pick 30 for nothing, turned out to be a better player than pick 14 (which is what should have been traded), who most people agreed would happen.

Drug his feet on the hayward sign and trade and lost out on having contracts/players that he could have traded at deadline if wanted

Signed Teague just to pay to drop him a few months later.


Then fire the medical staff

Fire him because he MAY (too early to say by far) have missed on 2 mid 1sts a late 1st and a 2nd and because the guy he traded almost nothing to get who filled a perfect need on the team got covid? Oh and because he signed a backup point guard for the minimum who didn't work out.

Pretty sure you could make a similar post for every gm in the league, fire them all.

But he could have drafted Matisse Thybulle. Celtics would have 1 extra win every 3 seasons if they got him.

[JediMasterRevan]

Fire Danny

Romeo - 1 dimensional player at best, terrible pick
Nesmith - jury out but looks BAAAAAAAAD, especially with the guys taken after him looking good
Edwards - seriously?
Grant Williams - Undersized, unathletic, short armed, excels at nothing
Break up TPE to get Fournier (I know he has missed a lot of games, but when has Brad ever been able to incorporate a player with a set of skills that does not fit his system) If Evan doesn't resign just broke up the best opportunity to add a legit player in the offseason.
Traded away pick 30 for nothing, turned out to be a better player than pick 14 (which is what should have been traded), who most people agreed would happen.

Drug his feet on the hayward sign and trade and lost out on having contracts/players that he could have traded at deadline if wanted

Signed Teague just to pay to drop him a few months later.


Then fire the medical staff

Fire him because he MAY (too early to say by far) have missed on 2 mid 1sts a late 1st and a 2nd and because the guy he traded almost nothing to get who filled a perfect need on the team got covid? Oh and because he signed a backup point guard for the minimum who didn't work out.

Pretty sure you could make a similar post for every gm in the league, fire them all.

Fire him for terrible asset management over the past multiple years.

Romeo was a bad pick always
Nesmith should have been shopped and traded
Fournier, IF, IF , IFFFFF he resigns then it is in theory a good trade.

[BK_2020]

Romeo is a pick that Danny got for literally nothing.
Nesmith's value was at the lowest in a market that saw Aaron Gordon for a prospect and a first. Trading Nesmith for the sake of trading would've been pretty idiotic.
Not saying we can't do better than Danny but your reasoning is almost completely flawed.

[cloverleaf]

Romeo is a pick that Danny got for literally nothing.
Nesmith's value was at the lowest in a market that saw Aaron Gordon for a prospect and a first. Trading Nesmith for the sake of trading would've been pretty idiotic.
Not saying we can't do better than Danny but your reasoning is almost completely flawed.

I don't think anyone has questioned Danny's ability to stockpile mid- to late first-round picks. But my guess is that Mr. Coach Indiana pressed for Mr. Basketball Indiana and the front office got talked into it.