Official Spec Thread: I guess now's the time to blow this dumpster fire up and bask in the glow!

[thelead]

If people don't think JI's defense won games, you're clueless about basketball. JI was not 'carried' to the playoffs lol. He isn't a reliable scorer but that is equally dumb as me saying JI's defense 'carried' Vuc's offense to the playoffs.

you look at his stats, and sure we did play bit better with him ( +0,7 net rating of him, Magic net rating of -1,3 overall) but in terms of cold blooded facts and wins, we had 18-21 record without him and 15-19 with him so we actually won more games ( by slim margin) when he didn't play.

It' doesn't change fact that he was positive contributor when he did play. But people here try to paint him into Pippen/ David Robinson in terms of impact where his impact is more like Myles Turner, who leads league in blocks but nobody gives a flying f*** about.
It's such a meaningless data that i had to check to even have any clue who is in top 5. Chris Boucer ( bench player), Noel ( bench player), Jakob Poelti ( fringe starter ) are in top 6.

Isaac is good player, but if you think he will make any difference on a team where Cole Anthony, Hampton and other clueless bodies are running team, you are fooling yourself. If anything, both him and Fultz wlil get pretty much exposed as one can't run offense and other doesn't have offense. But let's save that talk for next year.

Here's the thing, I don't disagree that Fultz and Isaac are offensively flawed currently and need the help of the likes of Vuc and Evan to play on a winning team... BUT Vuc's and Evan's defense is also critically flawed and needs the right players around them to win. In other words, none of them are 2-way players. I don't know why it's so hard for some to admit that. Anyway, I'm done having this repetitive argument.

[yoyojw17]

If people don't think JI's defense won games, you're clueless about basketball. JI was not 'carried' to the playoffs lol. He isn't a reliable scorer but that is equally dumb as me saying JI's defense 'carried' Vuc's offense to the playoffs.

you look at his stats, and sure we did play bit better with him ( +0,7 net rating of him, Magic net rating of -1,3 overall) but in terms of cold blooded facts and wins, we had 18-21 record without him and 15-19 with him so we actually won more games ( by slim margin) when he didn't play.

It' doesn't change fact that he was positive contributor when he did play. But people here try to paint him into Pippen/ David Robinson in terms of impact where his impact is more like Myles Turner, who leads league in blocks but nobody gives a flying f*** about.
It's such a meaningless data that i had to check to even have any clue who is in top 5. Chris Boucer ( bench player), Noel ( bench player), Jakob Poelti ( fringe starter ) are in top 6.

Isaac is good player, but if you think he will make any difference on a team where Cole Anthony, Hampton and other clueless bodies are running team, you are fooling yourself. If anything, both him and Fultz wlil get pretty much exposed as one can't run offense and other doesn't have offense. But let's save that talk for next year.

Come on Pepe.... give the 20 year olds a chance before stamping them with some of the extreme labels. I agree with some or actually most of your concerns.... but the extremes that you go to make your point just kills your arguments with me sometimes... lol

If we are down on our players... how do we expect them to grow. I have high hopes for both.... and chances are... yes.... they will be our bench players for the foreseeable future... but i believe both have starter potential as well.... and if that's the case that just makes our team deeper.

[KillMonger]

If people don't think JI's defense won games, you're clueless about basketball. JI was not 'carried' to the playoffs lol. He isn't a reliable scorer but that is equally dumb as me saying JI's defense 'carried' Vuc's offense to the playoffs.

you look at his stats, and sure we did play bit better with him ( +0,7 net rating of him, Magic net rating of -1,3 overall) but in terms of cold blooded facts and wins, we had 18-21 record without him and 15-19 with him so we actually won more games ( by slim margin) when he didn't play.

It' doesn't change fact that he was positive contributor when he did play. But people here try to paint him into Pippen/ David Robinson in terms of impact where his impact is more like Myles Turner, who leads league in blocks but nobody gives a flying f*** about.
It's such a meaningless data that i had to check to even have any clue who is in top 5. Chris Boucer ( bench player), Noel ( bench player), Jakob Poelti ( fringe starter ) are in top 6.

Isaac is good player, but if you think he will make any difference on a team where Cole Anthony, Hampton and other clueless bodies are running team, you are fooling yourself. If anything, both him and Fultz wlil get pretty much exposed as one can't run offense and other doesn't have offense. But let's save that talk for next year.

So JI doesn't have offense because we've seen a bunch of offense (attempts) from him? Because as i think back i don't remember JI having a ton of attempts or involvement in the offense.... Is the sample enough to be definitive? Is there enough data to say that JI will never be a solid offensive player?

[drsd]

No broken bones and no cartilage damage.

I have never heard of an open dislocation. What an odd injury. The good news of course is that Cannady should very rapidly return from this. He should be fully ready to fight for an NBA job next pre-season.

[pepe1991]

If people don't think JI's defense won games, you're clueless about basketball. JI was not 'carried' to the playoffs lol. He isn't a reliable scorer but that is equally dumb as me saying JI's defense 'carried' Vuc's offense to the playoffs.

you look at his stats, and sure we did play bit better with him ( +0,7 net rating of him, Magic net rating of -1,3 overall) but in terms of cold blooded facts and wins, we had 18-21 record without him and 15-19 with him so we actually won more games ( by slim margin) when he didn't play.

It' doesn't change fact that he was positive contributor when he did play. But people here try to paint him into Pippen/ David Robinson in terms of impact where his impact is more like Myles Turner, who leads league in blocks but nobody gives a flying f*** about.
It's such a meaningless data that i had to check to even have any clue who is in top 5. Chris Boucer ( bench player), Noel ( bench player), Jakob Poelti ( fringe starter ) are in top 6.

Isaac is good player, but if you think he will make any difference on a team where Cole Anthony, Hampton and other clueless bodies are running team, you are fooling yourself. If anything, both him and Fultz wlil get pretty much exposed as one can't run offense and other doesn't have offense. But let's save that talk for next year.

So JI doesn't have offense because we've seen a bunch of offense (attempts) from him? Because as i think back i don't remember JI having a ton of attempts or involvement in the offense.... Is the sample enough to be definitive? Is there enough data to say that JI will never be a solid offensive player?

In all 3 seasons he played, he was negative contributor to offense.
His career TS% is below league's average, his 3% is below league's average and vast majority of his points ( 63% of 2 point and 97% of 3s ) are assisted. So on his own he pretty much is catch&shoot player who just happends to be not very good at it.
You won't see any super passing chops and you won't see him beating people off the dribble.

I think it's very safe to assume after 3 years ( actually 4 ) , bad trackrecord with injuries that stardom isn't in play for him. He will be very good role player/starter as long as he can stay healthy.
In his 3 best individual scoring games of his career, he combined for 1 assist.

I compared him years ago to better defensive version of Ibaka ( one that started to shoot 3s ), and to me, it's clear that's what his nba career will look like. Flashy blocks but also good defense and from time to time some nice +20 points game.

[tiderulz]

you look at his stats, and sure we did play bit better with him ( +0,7 net rating of him, Magic net rating of -1,3 overall) but in terms of cold blooded facts and wins, we had 18-21 record without him and 15-19 with him so we actually won more games ( by slim margin) when he didn't play.

It' doesn't change fact that he was positive contributor when he did play. But people here try to paint him into Pippen/ David Robinson in terms of impact where his impact is more like Myles Turner, who leads league in blocks but nobody gives a flying f*** about.
It's such a meaningless data that i had to check to even have any clue who is in top 5. Chris Boucer ( bench player), Noel ( bench player), Jakob Poelti ( fringe starter ) are in top 6.

Isaac is good player, but if you think he will make any difference on a team where Cole Anthony, Hampton and other clueless bodies are running team, you are fooling yourself. If anything, both him and Fultz wlil get pretty much exposed as one can't run offense and other doesn't have offense. But let's save that talk for next year.

So JI doesn't have offense because we've seen a bunch of offense (attempts) from him? Because as i think back i don't remember JI having a ton of attempts or involvement in the offense.... Is the sample enough to be definitive? Is there enough data to say that JI will never be a solid offensive player?

In all 3 seasons he played, he was negative contributor to offense.
His career TS% is below league's average, his 3% is below league's average and vast majority of his points ( 63% of 2 point and 97% of 3s ) are assisted. So on his own he pretty much is catch&shoot player who just happends to be not very good at it.
You won't see any super passing chops and you won't see him beating people off the dribble.

I think it's very safe to assume after 3 years ( actually 4 ) , bad trackrecord with injuries that stardom isn't in play for him. He will be very good role player/starter as long as he can stay healthy.
In his 3 best individual scoring games of his career, he combined for 1 assist.

I compared him years ago to better defensive version of Ibaka ( one that started to shoot 3s ), and to me, it's clear that's what his nba career will look like. Flashy blocks but also good defense and from time to time some nice +20 points game.

i think a more solid defensive Ibaka who can cover wings a little better is a good comparison.

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[fendilim]

you look at his stats, and sure we did play bit better with him ( +0,7 net rating of him, Magic net rating of -1,3 overall) but in terms of cold blooded facts and wins, we had 18-21 record without him and 15-19 with him so we actually won more games ( by slim margin) when he didn't play.

It' doesn't change fact that he was positive contributor when he did play. But people here try to paint him into Pippen/ David Robinson in terms of impact where his impact is more like Myles Turner, who leads league in blocks but nobody gives a flying f*** about.
It's such a meaningless data that i had to check to even have any clue who is in top 5. Chris Boucer ( bench player), Noel ( bench player), Jakob Poelti ( fringe starter ) are in top 6.

Isaac is good player, but if you think he will make any difference on a team where Cole Anthony, Hampton and other clueless bodies are running team, you are fooling yourself. If anything, both him and Fultz wlil get pretty much exposed as one can't run offense and other doesn't have offense. But let's save that talk for next year.

So JI doesn't have offense because we've seen a bunch of offense (attempts) from him? Because as i think back i don't remember JI having a ton of attempts or involvement in the offense.... Is the sample enough to be definitive? Is there enough data to say that JI will never be a solid offensive player?

In all 3 seasons he played, he was negative contributor to offense.
His career TS% is below league's average, his 3% is below league's average and vast majority of his points ( 63% of 2 point and 97% of 3s ) are assisted. So on his own he pretty much is catch&shoot player who just happends to be not very good at it.
You won't see any super passing chops and you won't see him beating people off the dribble.

I think it's very safe to assume after 3 years ( actually 4 ) , bad trackrecord with injuries that stardom isn't in play for him. He will be very good role player/starter as long as he can stay healthy.
In his 3 best individual scoring games of his career, he combined for 1 assist.

I compared him years ago to better defensive version of Ibaka ( one that started to shoot 3s ), and to me, it's clear that's what his nba career will look like. Flashy blocks but also good defense and from time to time some nice +20 points game.

agree. I think Isaac is built to be a 3 and D player on offense, can create sometimes, but I dont think he is built to have the motor of a scorer.

He is basically a support player on offense, I dont see that changing since he’s been that way since college. I remember guys even defending Isaac being just a 3 and D guy, because his coach favors veterans like Bacon. LOL.

[Skin]

So JI doesn't have offense because we've seen a bunch of offense (attempts) from him? Because as i think back i don't remember JI having a ton of attempts or involvement in the offense.... Is the sample enough to be definitive? Is there enough data to say that JI will never be a solid offensive player?

In all 3 seasons he played, he was negative contributor to offense.
His career TS% is below league's average, his 3% is below league's average and vast majority of his points ( 63% of 2 point and 97% of 3s ) are assisted. So on his own he pretty much is catch&shoot player who just happends to be not very good at it.
You won't see any super passing chops and you won't see him beating people off the dribble.

I think it's very safe to assume after 3 years ( actually 4 ) , bad trackrecord with injuries that stardom isn't in play for him. He will be very good role player/starter as long as he can stay healthy.
In his 3 best individual scoring games of his career, he combined for 1 assist.

I compared him years ago to better defensive version of Ibaka ( one that started to shoot 3s ), and to me, it's clear that's what his nba career will look like. Flashy blocks but also good defense and from time to time some nice +20 points game.

agree. I think Isaac is built to be a 3 and D player on offense, can create sometimes, but I dont think he is built to have the motor of a scorer.

He is basically a support player on offense, I dont see that changing since he’s been that way since college. I remember guys even defending Isaac being just a 3 and D guy, because his coach favors veterans like Bacon. LOL.

Isaac is not a scorer's scorer, but he's more than a 3 and D complimentary guy.

[OrlChamps2030]

In all 3 seasons he played, he was negative contributor to offense.
His career TS% is below league's average, his 3% is below league's average and vast majority of his points ( 63% of 2 point and 97% of 3s ) are assisted. So on his own he pretty much is catch&shoot player who just happends to be not very good at it.
You won't see any super passing chops and you won't see him beating people off the dribble.

I think it's very safe to assume after 3 years ( actually 4 ) , bad trackrecord with injuries that stardom isn't in play for him. He will be very good role player/starter as long as he can stay healthy.
In his 3 best individual scoring games of his career, he combined for 1 assist.

I compared him years ago to better defensive version of Ibaka ( one that started to shoot 3s ), and to me, it's clear that's what his nba career will look like. Flashy blocks but also good defense and from time to time some nice +20 points game.

agree. I think Isaac is built to be a 3 and D player on offense, can create sometimes, but I dont think he is built to have the motor of a scorer.

He is basically a support player on offense, I dont see that changing since he’s been that way since college. I remember guys even defending Isaac being just a 3 and D guy, because his coach favors veterans like Bacon. LOL.

Isaac is not a scorer's scorer, but he's more than a 3 and D complimentary guy.

You sure about that? I want to see Isaac become an average 3 point shooter before claiming he’s greater than a 3&D guy. He doesn’t really have any wiggle with the ball in his hands and isn’t anything special as a passer. What do you envision him becoming offensively? I see maybe a improved Ibaka that’s a bit better around the rim.

Maybe with our new coach and a floor general PG (Suggs?) a more open offense he could reach a higher level

[KillMonger]

In all 3 seasons he played, he was negative contributor to offense.
His career TS% is below league's average, his 3% is below league's average and vast majority of his points ( 63% of 2 point and 97% of 3s ) are assisted. So on his own he pretty much is catch&shoot player who just happends to be not very good at it.
You won't see any super passing chops and you won't see him beating people off the dribble.

I think it's very safe to assume after 3 years ( actually 4 ) , bad trackrecord with injuries that stardom isn't in play for him. He will be very good role player/starter as long as he can stay healthy.
In his 3 best individual scoring games of his career, he combined for 1 assist.

I compared him years ago to better defensive version of Ibaka ( one that started to shoot 3s ), and to me, it's clear that's what his nba career will look like. Flashy blocks but also good defense and from time to time some nice +20 points game.

agree. I think Isaac is built to be a 3 and D player on offense, can create sometimes, but I dont think he is built to have the motor of a scorer.

He is basically a support player on offense, I dont see that changing since he’s been that way since college. I remember guys even defending Isaac being just a 3 and D guy, because his coach favors veterans like Bacon. LOL.

Isaac is not a scorer's scorer, but he's more than a 3 and D complimentary guy.

I agree I think he can be more than that as well. We just haven’t seen it yet, I mean it’s kinda like that dude that made the thread about Chuma.....he jumped the gun, the stats doesn’t tell the whole story.


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[pepe1991]

agree. I think Isaac is built to be a 3 and D player on offense, can create sometimes, but I dont think he is built to have the motor of a scorer.

He is basically a support player on offense, I dont see that changing since he’s been that way since college. I remember guys even defending Isaac being just a 3 and D guy, because his coach favors veterans like Bacon. LOL.

Isaac is not a scorer's scorer, but he's more than a 3 and D complimentary guy.

I agree I think he can be more than that as well. We just haven’t seen it yet, I mean it’s kinda like that dude that made the thread about Chuma.....he jumped the gun, the stats doesn’t tell the whole story.


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Chuma after thread had string of like 5 good games, people got wild, than in next 10 he shot like 12% for 3 and same people who were calling for my head and "eating crows" comments went hiding. As usual.

Isaac should be playing his FOURTH YEAR, player with normal history of health at such young age after 4 years has around 260 -310 gaes played.

If any other younger player not named Dwayne Bacon is now averaging what Bacon is averaging , this place would have several " future allstar" comments attached to his name.

We haven't seen it because he never showed capability. That's pretty much the point. He was even Robin to non other than Dwayne Bacon at college and i remember that being excuse why he only averaged 12 ppg at college. It's hilarious what people will write to defend opinion.

[tiderulz]

Isaac is not a scorer's scorer, but he's more than a 3 and D complimentary guy.

I agree I think he can be more than that as well. We just haven’t seen it yet, I mean it’s kinda like that dude that made the thread about Chuma.....he jumped the gun, the stats doesn’t tell the whole story.


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Chuma after thread had string of like 5 good games, people got wild, than in next 10 he shot like 12% for 3 and same people who were calling for my head and "eating crows" comments went hiding. As usual.

Isaac should be playing his FOURTH YEAR, player with normal history of health at such young age after 4 years has around 260 -310 gaes played.

If any other younger player not named Dwayne Bacon is now averaging what Bacon is averaging , this place would have several " future allstar" comments attached to his name.

We haven't seen it because he never showed capability. That's pretty much the point. He was even Robin to non other than Dwayne Bacon at college and i remember that being excuse why he only averaged 12 ppg at college. It's hilarious what people will write to defend opinion.

cmon man, Bacon at 10 ppg and 30% from 3. bad comparison and you know it

now i am with you that i dont believe Isaac is more than a 3 & D. and even at that, he needs to improve his shooting a lot

[PrimeThyme]

If any other younger player not named Dwayne Bacon is now averaging what Bacon is averaging , this place would have several " future allstar" comments attached to his name.

I think there is more nuance to it than that. What was exciting about Chuma is he wasn't just a black hole with a hero ball-playing style on offense like bacon. He was scoring within the offense and was playmaking and defending at a high level. I personally don't get caught up whatsoever in ppg totals.

Bamba scored 15 plus points two games in a row and I didn't bat an eye because of his horrific play on the other end of the court. Cole falls under that category for me as well.

I look for impact with young players. That's why I loved Isaac. That's why Chuma has really grown on me && that's what I'll be looking for with our lotto picks next season. I've always held that position with young players. When people were bitching about us not drafting DSJ/Markannen because of their ppg totals I always firmly stood my ground and said Isaac was the better pick.

Which even despite the injuries he still is. PPG is meaningless without context.

[KillMonger]

Isaac is not a scorer's scorer, but he's more than a 3 and D complimentary guy.

I agree I think he can be more than that as well. We just haven’t seen it yet, I mean it’s kinda like that dude that made the thread about Chuma.....he jumped the gun, the stats doesn’t tell the whole story.


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Chuma after thread had string of like 5 good games, people got wild, than in next 10 he shot like 12% for 3 and same people who were calling for my head and "eating crows" comments went hiding. As usual.

Isaac should be playing his FOURTH YEAR, player with normal history of health at such young age after 4 years has around 260 -310 gaes played.

If any other younger player not named Dwayne Bacon is now averaging what Bacon is averaging , this place would have several " future allstar" comments attached to his name.

We haven't seen it because he never showed capability. That's pretty much the point. He was even Robin to non other than Dwayne Bacon at college and i remember that being excuse why he only averaged 12 ppg at college. It's hilarious what people will write to defend opinion.

Shown capability to who? Not to me because i haven't seen it yet. JI haven't been stress tested to see what he can handle offensively. I watched every game and I haven't seen a concerted consistent effort to have him do more than just stand in a corner. What I have seen is him and fultz having to defer to people higher on the totem pole. My mind isn't going to change on this, I'm not ready to say someone can't do something or isn't able to do something simply because i haven't seen it.

Especially considering some of the issues i have with Clifford. So we're going agree to disagree, cause I'm iron clad where I stand on this issue and if I'm wrong I'm willing to own that.....but until then I'm going to let time do it's thing and see what happens first before I'm ready make such a statement on something which is no more than a educated guess and even then......

[pepe1991]

I agree I think he can be more than that as well. We just haven’t seen it yet, I mean it’s kinda like that dude that made the thread about Chuma.....he jumped the gun, the stats doesn’t tell the whole story.


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Chuma after thread had string of like 5 good games, people got wild, than in next 10 he shot like 12% for 3 and same people who were calling for my head and "eating crows" comments went hiding. As usual.

Isaac should be playing his FOURTH YEAR, player with normal history of health at such young age after 4 years has around 260 -310 gaes played.

If any other younger player not named Dwayne Bacon is now averaging what Bacon is averaging , this place would have several " future allstar" comments attached to his name.

We haven't seen it because he never showed capability. That's pretty much the point. He was even Robin to non other than Dwayne Bacon at college and i remember that being excuse why he only averaged 12 ppg at college. It's hilarious what people will write to defend opinion.

cmon man, Bacon at 10 ppg and 30% from 3. bad comparison and you know it

now i am with you that i dont believe Isaac is more than a 3 & D. and even at that, he needs to improve his shooting a lot

Scored 20 or more points in last 5 games -twice

I used Bacon as just very obvious example of somebody who will put up some stats for rest of this season, because there are 80-100 shots a game to be taken and 30-40 rebounds per game to be taken, regardless how bad roster is, somebody will put something in box score.

[pepe1991]

If any other younger player not named Dwayne Bacon is now averaging what Bacon is averaging , this place would have several " future allstar" comments attached to his name.

I think there is more nuance to it than that. What was exciting about Chuma is he wasn't just a black hole with a hero ball-playing style on offense like bacon. He was scoring within the offense and was playmaking and defending at a high level. I personally don't get caught up whatsoever in ppg totals.

Bamba scored 15 plus points two games in a row and I didn't bat an eye because of his horrific play on the other end of the court. Cole falls under that category for me as well.

I look for impact with young players. That's why I loved Isaac. That's why Chuma has really grown on me && that's what I'll be looking for with our lotto picks next season. I've always held that position with young players. When people were bitching about us not drafting DSJ/Markannen because of their ppg totals I always firmly stood my ground and said Isaac was the better pick.

Which even despite the injuries he still is. PPG is meaningless without context.

In hindsight, Adebayo and Mitchell were ones we missed with that draft...

[tiderulz]

Chuma after thread had string of like 5 good games, people got wild, than in next 10 he shot like 12% for 3 and same people who were calling for my head and "eating crows" comments went hiding. As usual.

Isaac should be playing his FOURTH YEAR, player with normal history of health at such young age after 4 years has around 260 -310 gaes played.

If any other younger player not named Dwayne Bacon is now averaging what Bacon is averaging , this place would have several " future allstar" comments attached to his name.

We haven't seen it because he never showed capability. That's pretty much the point. He was even Robin to non other than Dwayne Bacon at college and i remember that being excuse why he only averaged 12 ppg at college. It's hilarious what people will write to defend opinion.

cmon man, Bacon at 10 ppg and 30% from 3. bad comparison and you know it

now i am with you that i dont believe Isaac is more than a 3 & D. and even at that, he needs to improve his shooting a lot

Scored 20 or more points in last 5 games -twice

I used Bacon as just very obvious example of somebody who will put up some stats for rest of this season, because there are 80-100 shots a game to be taken and 30-40 rebounds per game to be taken, regardless how bad roster is, somebody will put something in box score.

yes, but you said avg'g what he was avg'g

[PrimeThyme]

In hindsight, Adebayo and Mitchell were ones we missed with that draft...

They just weren't realistically going to go in that range so I don't fault Weham too much for that one. SGA in 2018 is a completely different story. I was begging us to draft him. That draft was wide open after the first 5 guys similar to this one. Picking Bamba over him set us back a while.

[Skin]

Isaac is not a scorer's scorer, but he's more than a 3 and D complimentary guy.

I agree I think he can be more than that as well. We just haven’t seen it yet, I mean it’s kinda like that dude that made the thread about Chuma.....he jumped the gun, the stats doesn’t tell the whole story.


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Chuma after thread had string of like 5 good games, people got wild, than in next 10 he shot like 12% for 3 and same people who were calling for my head and "eating crows" comments went hiding. As usual.

Isaac should be playing his FOURTH YEAR, player with normal history of health at such young age after 4 years has around 260 -310 gaes played.

If any other younger player not named Dwayne Bacon is now averaging what Bacon is averaging , this place would have several " future allstar" comments attached to his name.

We haven't seen it because he never showed capability. That's pretty much the point. He was even Robin to non other than Dwayne Bacon at college and i remember that being excuse why he only averaged 12 ppg at college. It's hilarious what people will write to defend opinion.

Are you kidding me about Chuma right now? Guy is a rookie who finally got minutes due to our deadline trade and ever since Capt'n Jack Shot-o returned, it's been another adjustment period. So to deal with inconsistency is NORMAL. What you want to see are nights when he shows what he's capable of. THAT is how you gauge his potential. Defensively, he's already way ahead of the game. You keep talking about our players with a lens that says what they are now is all they'll ever be. Bleh.