Fire Brad Stevens.

[Bleeding Green]

Any coincidence that the three best coaches in the East all have **** teams in a season where you can't practice?

You mean Stevens, Spoelstra, Nurse? All 3 teams were very good last year, all 3 underachieved this year.....but prior to this year all 3 coaches were considered 3 of the best coaches in the league....


Meanwhile Doc is a golden boy in Philly, sitting atop the standings, after he got fired last season for underachieving...

Yes that's exactly what I mean. If you polled most people I think they would have ranked Stevens, Nurse, Spo all at the top for coaching ability. And all three have garbo teams this year, because, hey, you can't practice.

[Bleeding Green]

Wow the teams that made a coaching change are having **** seasons just like the Celtics. lmao the Knicks have two fewer losses than the Celtics.

What a shock, I knew you would respond to this what a joke. The NYK are playing about 20 games better than they were predicted while Boston is probably 20 games below and to you that's the same what a joke ..Thibs May end up getting coach of the year while Brad Stevens should be laughed out of town but yet it's all the same.

Turn in this off now but I will come back on tomorrow to answer all this BS for once and for all. So tired of weak minded excuses over and over and over again.

I look forward to your unified coaching theory to dispel all myths once and for all.

[moonie_mcgee]

This team has overachieved with Brad. Give him at least another year. Let's see what he can do with Tatum and Brown.

We have.
This team has underachieved for 3 years now.
Cut bait.

[reload141]

Any coincidence that the three best coaches in the East all have **** teams in a season where you can't practice?

You mean Stevens, Spoelstra, Nurse? All 3 teams were very good last year, all 3 underachieved this year.....but prior to this year all 3 coaches were considered 3 of the best coaches in the league....


Meanwhile Doc is a golden boy in Philly, sitting atop the standings, after he got fired last season for underachieving...

Yes that's exactly what I mean. If you polled most people I think they would have ranked Stevens, Nurse, Spo all at the top for coaching ability. And all three have garbo teams this year, because, hey, you can't practice.

Wait, have I missed something? Boston and the other teams haven't' been allowed to practice due to COVID but other teams have?

[Bleeding Green]

You mean Stevens, Spoelstra, Nurse? All 3 teams were very good last year, all 3 underachieved this year.....but prior to this year all 3 coaches were considered 3 of the best coaches in the league....


Meanwhile Doc is a golden boy in Philly, sitting atop the standings, after he got fired last season for underachieving...

Yes that's exactly what I mean. If you polled most people I think they would have ranked Stevens, Nurse, Spo all at the top for coaching ability. And all three have garbo teams this year, because, hey, you can't practice.

Wait, have I missed something? Boston and the other teams haven't' been allowed to practice due to COVID but other teams have?

No one is practicing so the ability of a coach is removed from the equation.

[moonie_mcgee]

100 pct back. They literally just gave him a five year extension.

He can always resign and take a coveted college gig. Hell he's young enough to do that AND still get back to the NBA for a small market team.

[moonie_mcgee]

Yes that's exactly what I mean. If you polled most people I think they would have ranked Stevens, Nurse, Spo all at the top for coaching ability. And all three have garbo teams this year, because, hey, you can't practice.

Wait, have I missed something? Boston and the other teams haven't' been allowed to practice due to COVID but other teams have?

No one is practicing so the ability of a coach is removed from the equation.

And I thought it'd be more important.

The Celts need a coaching change more than any team in the NBA right now. And as the pressure mounts it will only get worse. He's been here 8 frickin years. This team desperately DESPERATELY needs new leadership, new vision.

[Bleeding Green]

100 pct back. They literally just gave him a five year extension.

He can always resign and take a coveted college gig. Hell he's young enough to do that AND still get back to the NBA for a small market team.

Sure anything is possible. So 99 pct, my bad.

[Captain_Caveman]

Our most played 5-man unit only has 131 minutes on the floor together this season. That is 49th in the league, and given that this unit includes a since-traded Daniel Theis, Boston will probably not have a 5-man unit that exceeds 150 minutes this year or finishes among the top 60 of the league's most played 5-man units.

For perspective, there are already ten 5-man units in the NBA who have played 400+ minutes together. There are 3 that have played 589+ minutes together or more. Phoenix's top 5-man unit has played 676 minutes together coming into tonight, or more than 5x as many minutes as Boston's most played 5-man unit.

That's all part of the game, but the point I would make here is that it's not coaching or drafting or any of that. Stevens literally has a different rotation every single game. There is no way to build continuity or chemistry when that is your situation, and you won't have crisp ball movement or timely defensive rotations. We've literally been watching Marcus Smart shove teammates into defensive position.

If they get healthy for the playoffs, Stevens should get a chance to rectify that, but he's had his hands full this year for sure. People are straight tripping if they think another coach would be doing any better.

[Bleeding Green]

Wait, have I missed something? Boston and the other teams haven't' been allowed to practice due to COVID but other teams have?

No one is practicing so the ability of a coach is removed from the equation.

And I thought it'd be more important.

The Celts need a coaching change more than any team in the NBA right now. And as the pressure mounts it will only get worse. He's been here 8 frickin years. This team desperately DESPERATELY needs new leadership, new vision.

Yeah I guess that's one theory: that with no ability to coach between games, coaching would have an effect.

[Feed Your Head]

I haven’t posted in this thread, mostly because I feel like it’s hard to take anything from this season. Almost no practice time, injuries/Covid, etc etc. I’ve been very open about my concerns with Brad, and if he’s the right guy for this team long term, but I don’t think judging him on how poorly this season has gone is fair.

It’s hard to play, and coach in these circumstances. I think Brad should get next year, before anyone makes snap judgements on him. Same for most of the players, someone like Smart is being asked to play a different role almost every game, Tatum has to switch between being an alpha scorer, and having to play point forward. Cave said it better above, but how can you run a system, when you can’t practice, and you’ve been decimated by injuries and rona.

[reload141]

Our most played 5-man unit only has 131 minutes on the floor together this season. That is 49th in the league, and given that this unit includes a since-traded Daniel Theis, Boston will probably not have a 5-man unit that exceeds 150 minutes this year or finishes among the top 60 of the league's most played 5-man units.

For perspective, there are already ten 5-man units in the NBA who have played 400+ minutes together. There are 3 that have played 589+ minutes together or more. Phoenix's top 5-man unit has played 676 minutes together coming into tonight, or more than 5x as many minutes as Boston's most played 5-man unit.

That's all part of the game, but the point I would make here is that it's not coaching or drafting or any of that. Stevens literally has a different rotation every single game. There is no way to build continuity or chemistry when that is your situation, and you won't have crisp ball movement or timely defensive rotations. We've literally been watching Marcus Smart shove teammates into defensive position.

If they get healthy for the playoffs, Stevens should get a chance to rectify that, but he's had his hands full this year for sure. People are straight tripping if they think another coach would be doing any better.

^ x100 I love it when you post facts so people can see it plain and simple.

I’d also like to add-on to this saying, who do people want coaching as a replacement anyway? Like who is out there? (We’ve done this before) but it lands squarely back at, if there’s no one who the organisation can take us to the next level then there’s no point firing a coach like Brad.

[Captain_Caveman]

Can we also point out that coaching is a playoff thing, and not regular season? No one is prepping for anyone when you have 4 games in 6 nights flying all over the place. Many teams are not even practicing. Coaches make their mark in the playoffs, where there are no back-to-backs and you can gameplan and make adjustments for a single opponent.

[Feed Your Head]

Can we also point out that coaching is a playoff thing, and not regular season? Noe one is prepping for anyone when you have 4 games in 6 nights flying all over the place. Many teams are not even practicing. Coaches make their mark in the playoffs, where there are no back-to-backs and you can gameplan and make adjustments for a single opponent.

There is no place for being rational on this board.

[reload141]

Can we also point out that coaching is a playoff thing, and not regular season? Noe one is prepping for anyone when you have 4 games in 6 nights flying all over the place. Many teams are not even practicing. Coaches make their mark in the playoffs, where there are no back-to-backs and you can gameplan and make adjustments for a single opponent.

There is no place for being rational on this board.

Exactly.

You two should just move to Australia, that's being rational. COME.

Australia.

Like now.

[djFan71]

One slightly overlooked reason - we had WAY less rest than half the league, and less rest than the others by making the final 4. There are nights when ridiculous athletes like Jaylen look worn down compared to guys on teams that didn't play for 7-8 months. Miami is having the same thing. LAL has injuries. None of the teams that went to the conference finals in the bubble are playing as well this season. DEN is doing the best of everyone, but now they have serious injuries and Jokic is the player in the league that relies on athleticism the least. LAL was doing good since they improved their roster, but their bubble workhorses went down with injuries.

We've had a ton of inuires. And even when guys are in, you can tell they're not fresh. And for some reason we're the stupidest with catching COVID.

I agree with BG's coaching theory as well, but at some point a coach adapts to that. I'm more with Cave, constantly running guys in and out of rotations is impossible to build chemistry. And I think the bubble run is at least a small factor in the injuries causing it.

[LoquaciousLarry]

I live in San Antonio, you guys would want Pop Fired for the past few years. Give Brad time its clear its been an abomination of an injury plagued, poor season. Take the positives, hope for a good run this year, recognize the weaknesses and build into a formidable championship contender. Tatum and Brown are elite players especially for their age, the sky is the limit. Let Brad do his thing he can be a champion.

[LoquaciousLarry]

This team has overachieved with Brad. Give him at least another year. Let's see what he can do with Tatum and Brown.

We have.
This team has underachieved for 3 years now.
Cut bait.

I don't agree. Brads not the GM. has gotten the best out of guys like Terry Rozier whom he developed and lost at no fault of his own. He's developed Jaylen, Tatum, among other assets like IT. Ainge needs to do better and when he does its been obvious the Celtics have had an edge in coaching 9 times out of 10 in Stevens tenure.

This has definitely been a rough stretch, in my opinion its too early to throw in the towel. I would definitely like more accountability but until he's gone I'll trust in Brad. And I think his leash should be extended. He's been a great asset to this franchise.

[threrf23]

Can we also point out that coaching is a playoff thing, and not regular season? No one is prepping for anyone when you have 4 games in 6 nights flying all over the place. Many teams are not even practicing. Coaches make their mark in the playoffs, where there are no back-to-backs and you can gameplan and make adjustments for a single opponent.

Game planning is a playoff thing. Coaching involves more than gameplanning though.

[BostonCouchGM]

at this point it's obvious he's clearly not the guy though this loss isn't that crazy considering how much young talent they have, how many injuries we have and how hard they played compared to us.